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post #31 of 104
there's a forum on cnc routers too!

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/archiv...p/t-26290.html
post #32 of 104
FWIW...I have a CNC machine that will accept up to a 35" wide by unlimited ( only by the size of the room i guess ) and it sold for 11k 4 years ago and I am betting on the used market you guys could find a decent machine for under 3 grand including software.
post #33 of 104
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Originally Posted by LTD02 View Post

this one does full 4x8 with 4" of z travel for $5k.

http://www.digirout.com/DR1000.html

That CNC looks great for doing simple tasks. You would probably spend closer to $15000 by the time you have it shipped, assembled, accessorized, programmed and get trained to use it but that sure is a great deal.
post #34 of 104
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Well, I didn't have much time today to devote to the sub but I did get a chance to do a quick roundover. I used a 1/2" Napa bit for this. I'll be sanding tomorrow if I get a chance.
post #35 of 104
looking good danielson99. the pics are much appreciated. great thread.
post #36 of 104
+ 1!!

Can I ask a newb never touched a router (well, non computer related one anyway) before. Is there a guide that tells the bit how deep to cut? My cordless drill came with a router attachment and when I tried it, there was no guide so I had no way of controlling how far it dug in so I gave up.
post #37 of 104
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Well, I didn't have much time today to devote to the sub but I did get a chance to do a quick roundover. I used a 1/2" Napa bit for this. I'll be sanding tomorrow if I get a chance.

Cool, finally a tool I own and can do the same thing...I do not feel so inferior today
post #38 of 104
Cool shop, i think if i were to build a sub that nice i would use somthing other then a plate amp.
post #39 of 104
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Originally Posted by KlipschHead281 View Post

+ 1!!

Can I ask a newb never touched a router (well, non computer related one anyway) before. Is there a guide that tells the bit how deep to cut? My cordless drill came with a router attachment and when I tried it, there was no guide so I had no way of controlling how far it dug in so I gave up.

KH,
hit YouTube bud, there's router vids a plenty.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...q=3&oq=router+
post #40 of 104
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Originally Posted by KlipschHead281 View Post

+ 1!!

Can I ask a newb never touched a router (well, non computer related one anyway) before. Is there a guide that tells the bit how deep to cut? My cordless drill came with a router attachment and when I tried it, there was no guide so I had no way of controlling how far it dug in so I gave up.

If you're wondering whether you can program the depth of cut the router makes it's yes. You can tell it to cut at whatever depth you choose and the better the CNC the more options you'll have for gauging those precise details.

On another note, you can cut a brace with however many holes you choose or a driver cutout and have it cut the hole/holes with a roundover bit so it rounds over each hole as it cuts. Kinda neat eh!
post #41 of 104
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Today I sanded for awhile, just a quick once-over with 120 grit on the orbital sander. I added some Lepages plastic-wood filler and then left for the day. I'll sand it again tomorrow with 180 grit. I taped the driver/amp cutouts so I won't fill the box with dust


post #42 of 104
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Originally Posted by NEO Dan View Post

KH,
hit YouTube bud, there's router vids a plenty.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...q=3&oq=router+

Excellent! Thanks, sorry for the de-rail.
post #43 of 104
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Originally Posted by Danielson99 View Post

If you're wondering whether you can program the depth of cut the router makes it's yes. You can tell it to cut at whatever depth you choose and the better the CNC the more options you'll have for gauging those precise details.

On another note, you can cut a brace with however many holes you choose or a driver cutout and have it cut the hole/holes with a roundover bit so it rounds over each hole as it cuts. Kinda neat eh!

I figure once I take the plunge at get past that first hurdle I'll be ok. If you saw the wood clock I made for my Mom for her birthday a few years ago out of drift wood you'd say stay far away from wood! She loves it of course, but damn, only a mother would! Thanks for the info.
post #44 of 104
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Originally Posted by Danielson99 View Post

Today I sanded for awhile, just a quick once-over with 120 grit on the orbital sander. I added some Lepages plastic-wood filler and then left for the day. I'll sand it again tomorrow with 180 grit. I taped the driver/amp cutouts so I won't fill the box with dust



Frakin sweet!
post #45 of 104
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Excellent! Thanks, sorry for the de-rail.

As long as it doesn't happen twice in one week you're fine. More than that and NeoDan will ban you from the DIY section!
post #46 of 104
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As long as it doesn't happen twice in one week you're fine. More than that and NeoDan will ban you from the DIY section!

Yea Erich,
I get cranky when everywhere I go I see the same thing, where it's not supposed to be. Wait till I get older, and I take one of those Moderator offers. They'll call me the Bannerator, that and a few other things I'm sure.

Now get off my lawn.


J/K
post #47 of 104
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Originally Posted by KlipschHead281 View Post

+ 1!!

Can I ask a newb never touched a router (well, non computer related one anyway) before. Is there a guide that tells the bit how deep to cut? My cordless drill came with a router attachment and when I tried it, there was no guide so I had no way of controlling how far it dug in so I gave up.

A Plunge router is your friend!
post #48 of 104
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Originally Posted by NEO Dan View Post

I do need to get the EB MAX built and tested, and the 24" cube. I need 4 of the EB MAX actually. I think there are others that would be into the EB MAX as a flatpack, or built up and finished.

So Danielson
do you take PayPal???

Have a look at MAX will you

I'll get back to you on this in a couple days. If it's possible I'll probably only be doing it as a flatpack 'ready to assemble' type package. Also, I'll probably be doing it in multiples of 3 as that is what the saw will cut at one time. 3 sheets of 3/4" material at a time, all perfectly identical cuts. Anyway, don't get your hopes up yet...we'll see by Friday most likely...
post #49 of 104
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Originally Posted by Danielson99 View Post

I'll get back to you on this in a couple days. If it's possible I'll probably only be doing it as a flatpack 'ready to assemble' type package. Also, I'll probably be doing it in multiples of 3 as that is what the saw will cut at one time. 3 sheets of 3/4" material at a time, all perfectly identical cuts. Anyway, don't get your hopes up yet...we'll see by Friday most likely...

Seriously Dan, with this kind of production capabilities at your disposal, you should contact Kevin Haskins at Exodus and see if he wants to partner up on ShivaX flatpack enclosures based on an optimal sealed and ported design. Even the ID plug and play sub mfgrs would have to run for cover.
post #50 of 104
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We'll see what the future holds!!! I'd love nothing more than to build enclosures..but there are alot of logistics and hurdles to cross over. Perhaps one day in the near future those types of doors will open...

Anyway, as far as my sub goes I'm going to do my last sanding in the morning and probably start painting on Friday
post #51 of 104
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Originally Posted by Danielson99 View Post

I'll get back to you on this in a couple days. If it's possible I'll probably only be doing it as a flatpack 'ready to assemble' type package. Also, I'll probably be doing it in multiples of 3 as that is what the saw will cut at one time. 3 sheets of 3/4" material at a time, all perfectly identical cuts. Anyway, don't get your hopes up yet...we'll see by Friday most likely...

Dan/Daniel?,
Thanks for having a look I've drawn the sheets for ease of illustration but in this situation and in my own builds I generally try and make sure that all the edges are machine cuts, can you consider adjusting your layout to accommodate this. Eliminating the factory edges insures the glue joints are nice and tight with very small glue lines. There are other significantly easier to assemble designs in "inventory" if you want to offer a line of flatpacks. Offering a flatpack of a Shiva/Tempest/Maelstrom-X + dual PR design could sell in voulme if you have the ability to package for drop shipment via FedEx/UPS.

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Originally Posted by mayhem13 View Post

Seriously Dan, with this kind of production capabilities at your disposal, you should contact Kevin Haskins at Exodus and see if he wants to partner up on ShivaX flatpack enclosures based on an optimal sealed and ported design. Even the ID plug and play sub mfgrs would have to run for cover.

Mayhem,
I'm 100% with you on this. I'm sure this would increase sales of the higher performance "boutique" drivers. I think there are lots of folks out there that simply don't buy the drivers for lack of tools or skill they think they can't build a worthy enclosure. This would potentially open the door to very high performance for those with the patience to assemble the enclosure.
post #52 of 104
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Originally Posted by LTD02 View Post

this one does full 4x8 with 4" of z travel for $5k.

http://www.digirout.com/DR1000.html

Group buy?
post #53 of 104
Nice
post #54 of 104
I'm going to start looking for one of the CNC routers. I'm not sure how much use it would get right now, but we'll see. That automatic saw is pretty cool too, but not as cool as the router.

I've seen some really large table saws that have the swing arm blade that can handle full size sheets with no issues. They aren't computer driven, but the cuts would be easier, quicker, and maybe a better cut than a table saw.
post #55 of 104
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Originally Posted by NEO Dan View Post

Mayhem,
I'm 100% with you on this. I'm sure this would increase sales of the higher performance "boutique" drivers. I think there are lots of folks out there that simply don't buy the drivers for lack of tools or skill they think they can't build a worthy enclosure....

This is exactly the reason I lurk in this forum and haven't built anything yet
post #56 of 104
Digirout isnt answering the phone. I left a VM this morning on the sales line and they havent called back. I'm very interested in one. Anyone else?
post #57 of 104
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I'm going to start looking for one of the CNC routers. I'm not sure how much use it would get right now, but we'll see. That automatic saw is pretty cool too, but not as cool as the router.

I've seen some really large table saws that have the swing arm blade that can handle full size sheets with no issues. They aren't computer driven, but the cuts would be easier, quicker, and maybe a better cut than a table saw.

That's called a radial arm saw..

Not something you would use for precise cuts at all. It's mainly used to quickly cut stock down to manageable sizes or rough cutting.
post #58 of 104
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Originally Posted by TenthScale View Post

That's called a radial arm saw..

Not something you would use for precise cuts at all. It's mainly used to quickly cut stock down to manageable sizes or rough cutting.

I wish someone made a sliding miter saw that would 45* a 12" board with a single cut. I have some 12" trim on my house as well as my parents. I'll have to buy a fullsize RAS if I want to cut it with a single swipe. I just bought a 12" hitachi sliding miter and it wont quite cut it.

I bet a digirout would cut it nicely.
post #59 of 104
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Originally Posted by LHD21 View Post

I wish someone made a sliding miter saw that would 45* a 12" board with a single cut. I have some 12" trim on my house as well as my parents. I'll have to buy a fullsize RAS if I want to cut it with a single swipe. I just bought a 12" hitachi sliding miter and it wont quite cut it.

I bet a digirout would cut it nicely.

I thought the largest 12" Hitachi could handle it looked at specs and seems on the 45 the are like 11 3/4" capacity lame since it's a better tool but


Looks like the dewalt 12" would do it?
http://www.dewalt.com/us/mitersaws/products/dw718.html
post #60 of 104
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Originally Posted by TenthScale View Post

I thought the largest 12" Hitachi could handle it looked at specs and seems on the 45 the are like 11 3/4" capacity lame since it's a better tool but


Looks like the dewalt 12" would do it?
http://www.dewalt.com/us/mitersaws/products/dw718.html

I was setup to get the Dewalt and I read a lot of reviews about the rails being smaller which lead to head deflection. The hitachi had nothing but praise.

The specs I see for the hitachi are 45° Miter (L/R) 4-3/16"x8-5/8" or 4-11/16"x7-1/13" .
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