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post #181 of 1705
Getting a separate box for the HDTV looked like the solution to me at last if I want to use SR5004 as a solo switching device and up-convert/scale SD to HD.

I also figured a bit disappointing conclusion about my connectivity done by installer from Dish Network. The DVR I have have is Dish ViP722 (http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads...2_brochure.pdf). The specs says TV1 as HD and TV2 as SD. The installer from Dish network installed the other way round. So I have HDMI connectivity at the tube TV1 and coax to plasma TV2. Well, I don't know where to go from here. I guess I will give Dish network a call. This installation was done a while ago and I had no issues with the signal. Even now, when I change the same channel from SD to HD, it looks better!!! I don't know how? (The tuner at my HDTV might be a SD tuner as well!!)

HDMI is only limited to TV1 and the remote for TV1 is IR for changing the channels. So changing the outputs from back of the receiver to TVs won't help even if I use wireless HDMI transmitter. A big mess.

I have both Dish and Verizon services, and all the HD channels in Dish I can get from Verizon. All the channels not available in Verizon is all SD anyway. Switching channels seems like a workable idea for now.

I am glad I got 5004 and these all came to the surface, otherwise I would have never known about any of these. Thank you for all the responses Lost!
post #182 of 1705
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Originally Posted by saumil View Post

Getting a separate box for the HDTV looked like the solution to me at last if I want to use SR5004 as a solo switching device and up-convert/scale SD to HD.

It is the best choice and you don't spend money on gadgets that may not work well.

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I am glad I got 5004 and these all came to the surface, otherwise I would have never known about any of these. Thank you for all the responses Lost!

Enjoy your receiver
post #183 of 1705
Hi.
In the process of setting up my 6004. Does anyone know is there any way to setup both bi-amp and back surround?
Thanks
post #184 of 1705
Hello,
Wonder if anyone has the same experience as me. We just got the Marantz 6004 and hooked it up to our Panny 58V10 plasma (for about 2 wks). We used Dish network for TV signal with DVR 722 box. We connect to TV using HDMI1 port. Intermittently, the TV signal got dropped. The TV signal went away and we got a grey screen on the TV. We then turned the TV and the receiver off, wait for a little while, turned it back on, it worked. Or sometimes, this hard reset did not work, we then had to remove the HDMI cable out and replugged it in to HDMI2 port then the TV worked again. We kept having to go back and forth between these ports. Called Panasonic today and they said that the problem is in the receiver since it is not sending clean HDMI signal to the TV. Is there anyone that has similar experience ? or any HDMI issue with this receiver. I searched AVS forum and saw a thread on the Onkyo HDMI problem and Panny issued a firmware fix for that.
Wonder if by installing this patch 1.25, will it resolve the problem mentioned here. Any thoughts ? Please help. thanks.
post #185 of 1705
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Originally Posted by ice168 View Post

Hi.
In the process of setting up my 6004. Does anyone know is there any way to setup both bi-amp and back surround?
Thanks

no - only 7 amps
post #186 of 1705
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Originally Posted by jclrthn View Post

Hello,
Wonder if anyone has the same experience as me. We just got the Marantz 6004 and hooked it up to our Panny 58V10 plasma (for about 2 wks). We used Dish network for TV signal with DVR 722 box. We connect to TV using HDMI1 port. Intermittently, the TV signal got dropped. The TV signal went away and we got a grey screen on the TV. We then turned the TV and the receiver off, wait for a little while, turned it back on, it worked. Or sometimes, this hard reset did not work, we then had to remove the HDMI cable out and replugged it in to HDMI2 port then the TV worked again. We kept having to go back and forth between these ports. Called Panasonic today and they said that the problem is in the receiver since it is not sending clean HDMI signal to the TV. Is there anyone that has similar experience ? or any HDMI issue with this receiver. I searched AVS forum and saw a thread on the Onkyo HDMI problem and Panny issued a firmware fix for that.
Wonder if by installing this patch 1.25, will it resolve the problem mentioned here. Any thoughts ? Please help. thanks.

this sounds similar to the issues i had with my second unit. send it back.
post #187 of 1705
Got my receiver yesterday and prima facie it is very good sounding amp without the amp even breaking fully in. I like the sound, highs are crisp and detailed but not fatiguing nor do they turn irritable at high volumes.

RMS power reserve is definitely high since playing music loud does not sound hard at all, everything just flows out smoothly. It feels and sound easy to the amp. My shelfspeakers got more depth and punch/control to lows with Mara 5004.

The amp warms up good. The lef side of the amp, where the power supply is, tends to be more hot. The iron over the power supply is noticeably hot and thermometer told me the air in that point was 44,5/112 degrees celsius/fahrenheit. But comparing to onkyo 875 etc. this is still quite cool.

There is a hearable hiss when ear is put to tweeter, it's not hearable approx. 30cm/12inch away from speaker. At the peak power levels (0 to + 18 dB) the hiss is more noticeable (the peak power range is not for listening though). And FYI every amp makes some kind of hiss; if it's audible at the listening position I would be concerned.

Amp's serial number ends with 3xx and it was bought from Germany.



-Edit-: The heat cumulation to the left side was due the placement I replaced the amp and went to shower and tadaa, no hot left side! Left side of the amp was 1cm to the center speaker, right side is open. My last amp did not generate any heat in the same position, seemingly 5004 depends more on the side vents. So, no heat problem after all.

Conclusion: leave top and both sides of the amp open (like it weren't stated in the manual).

-Edit2-: Unfourtunately, the heat build up was not completely removed. Since the amp wants to get hot I'm thinking to raise it above the table some more so the air could flow more freely through the amp. Passive cooling systems rely on the principle of hot air pushing upwards and pulling cool air from the bottom, I try to enhance that flow. Sry bad English

Legis
post #188 of 1705
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Originally Posted by Legis View Post

Conclusion: leave top and both sides of the amp open (like it weren't stated in the manual).
Legis

Welcome to the forum Legis.

Check Page#3 of the Manual for space around the Unit. 8 inches or more at Left, Right, Top and Rear. Here is the quick link http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=174
post #189 of 1705
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Originally Posted by saumil View Post

Thank you for sharing your experience in detail.

I have decided to buy SR5004 and hopefully I will get it soon. I was looking for similar thread for previous Models and found out there is a common thread for Marantz SR5003/6003/7003/8003. 6004 has some added features over 5004, even the official Marantz manual for both is same with special comments for 6004.

I was wondering if you can change the title to SR5004/6004 (I haven't seen 7 & 8 yet) and also accommodate 5004 here or do you suggest me to start a new thread just for SR5004?

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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

They are pretty similar and will inevitably share a lot of the same questions/issues. I changed the title of the first post, but the mods will need to adjust the title.

i did not realize the 5004 was even out yet - my dealers were saying October.

I requested the moderator for changing the title and within minutes they acted. Thanks markrubin for changing the title to SR6004/SR/5004.
post #190 of 1705
Winston,

How is your "newest" unit working for you now? I'm curious.
post #191 of 1705
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Originally Posted by HotAhr View Post

Winston,

How is your "newest" unit working for you now? I'm curious.

Running fine, but ask me in a week - they usually last 12-18 days
post #192 of 1705
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Originally Posted by bhadsock View Post

The specs indicate that it has 4 component inputs ans 2 outputs. Can both component outputs function at the same time with any of the inputs? Basically like a 4 x 2 switcher?

Does anyone know the answer to the above question?
post #193 of 1705
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Here is the first unit that died. There is roughly 6" above it and an 1.5" on either side with 4-5" in the back.

The other unit that died ultimately expired in my bedroom armoire.

Hmmm... did you know they require at least 8 INCHES on the left, right, back and top? (page 3 in the manual)
post #194 of 1705
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Originally Posted by pixelman View Post

Hmmm... did you know they require at least 8 INCHES on the left, right, back and top? (page 3 in the manual)

marantz technical support said it only needs an inch on the phone. if it really requires 8" on each side, it's going back to marantz and i am getting another onkyo that runs hot but only breathes through top.
post #195 of 1705
Hello everyone,

I have recently listened to the Marantz 5004 and really liked its crisp clean sound. My only complaint is that I did find it to be a little short on punch at low volumes, but not overly so that I wouldn't purchase it.

Here is my question, knowing that I like the crisp sound of the Marantz, should I still consider the Onkyo 807 because of its advanced features? My previous experience with Onkyos is that they tend to sound just a bit heavy.

Is there anything I'm missing here guys? Or anything else I should consider before I make my purchase?

*copied from another avsforum thread*
post #196 of 1705
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HotAhr View Post

Hello everyone,

I have recently listened to the Marantz 5004 and really liked its crisp clean sound. My only complaint is that I did find it to be a little short on punch at low volumes, but not overly so that I wouldn't purchase it.

Here is my question, knowing that I like the crisp sound of the Marantz, should I still consider the Onkyo 807 because of its advanced features? My previous experience with Onkyos is that they tend to sound just a bit heavy.

Is there anything I'm missing here guys? Or anything else I should consider before I make my purchase?

*copied from another avsforum thread*

the heavy sound might be the thx processing modes that adjust sound for smaller home theatre rooms.
post #197 of 1705
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HotAhr View Post

Hello everyone,

I have recently listened to the Marantz 5004 and really liked its crisp clean sound. My only complaint is that I did find it to be a little short on punch at low volumes, but not overly so that I wouldn't purchase it.

Here is my question, knowing that I like the crisp sound of the Marantz, should I still consider the Onkyo 807 because of its advanced features? My previous experience with Onkyos is that they tend to sound just a bit heavy.

Is there anything I'm missing here guys? Or anything else I should consider before I make my purchase?

*copied from another avsforum thread*

oh and re-read the first page of this thread.
post #198 of 1705
When I play DVD movies, the display of 5004 shows "Stereo" and not 5.1. I went to the settings within the DVD and changed to 5.1 and still 5004 says stereo, I also can listen to 2 speakers and sub-woofer only. I thought it might be a problem with the DVD, and the next one also played the same way. DVD has two kind of outputs - analog L & R cables and digital out.

Marantz manual says if I have Surround setting as "Auto" and input is analog, HDCD or PCM, the output will only be L, R & sub. Most of the other settings (i.e. EX/ES, Dolby PL IIz, DTS, CS II, Multi channel movie music or Neural-THX) give 5.1/7.1 output. Which one should I choose, if "non-Auto" solves the problem!! Again, will that setting be good for all kind of music or do I need to change it for Movie/TV/other?

I will also find out more details about DVD digital output and what format it comes out.

Thank you in advance.
post #199 of 1705
So, is this model still an epic failure? We have a Marantz now and we really like it but it's a bit outdated. So, we are on the market for a new one. It was going to be either this or the SC-25.
post #200 of 1705
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Originally Posted by jitu View Post

So, is this model still an epic failure? We have a Marantz now and we really like it but it's a bit outdated. So, we are on the market for a new one. It was going to be either this or the SC-25.

I just ordered the SR5004. I'm hoping that these are not epic failures. I'll post, once I have the unit here.
post #201 of 1705
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Originally Posted by saumil View Post

When I play DVD movies, the display of 5004 shows "Stereo" and not 5.1. I went to the settings within the DVD and changed to 5.1 and still 5004 says stereo, I also can listen to 2 speakers and sub-woofer only. I thought it might be a problem with the DVD, and the next one also played the same way. DVD has two kind of outputs - analog L & R cables and digital out.

Marantz manual says if I have Surround setting as "Auto" and input is analog, HDCD or PCM, the output will only be L, R & sub. Most of the other settings (i.e. EX/ES, Dolby PL IIz, DTS, CS II, Multi channel movie music or Neural-THX) give 5.1/7.1 output. Which one should I choose, if "non-Auto" solves the problem!! Again, will that setting be good for all kind of music or do I need to change it for Movie/TV/other?

I will also find out more details about DVD digital output and what format it comes out.

Thank you in advance.

use dolby prologic, neural, or dts neo:6 to matrix two channel sources to 5.1 or 7.1. to toggle through these, press the surround button on the remote.
post #202 of 1705
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Originally Posted by jitu View Post

So, is this model still an epic failure? We have a Marantz now and we really like it but it's a bit outdated. So, we are on the market for a new one. It was going to be either this or the SC-25.

I went through three 6004s within 8 to 16 days of use. Something happened in the output section causing a thud, then protect mode lock down. All of the failures happened randomly and without warning (ie heat, cutting off).

My two new 6004s appear to be running fine for roughly a week. Marantz promised they would look into it and call me. That was over a week ago and no response.

There are no reported problems with the 5004 - the 6004 has a new, beefier power supply this year. A friend in the repair business informed me that since I heard a thud the problem was emanating from output stage and likely blown amps.
post #203 of 1705
Yes, please keep us updated with your receiver. The one we have now occasionally stops outputting audio to speakers and a light blinks on the screen of the receiver. I resolve the issue by switching to another source and then back to the source I was watching. Doesn't bother me as much because the sound quality is awesome.
post #204 of 1705
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Originally Posted by jitu View Post

Yes, please keep us updated with your receiver. The one we have now occasionally stops outputting audio to speakers and a light blinks on the screen of the receiver. I resolve the issue by switching to another source and then back to the source I was watching. Doesn't bother me as much because the sound quality is awesome.

Is your receiver having problems a 6004 or 5004? if it's a 6004 what is the third to last digit of the serial number. Mine effected were 2xx or 8xx.
post #205 of 1705
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

use dolby prologic, neural, or dts neo:6 to matrix two channel sources to 5.1 or 7.1. to toggle through these, press the surround button on the remote.

Prologic works good for me. Now, my TV also gives me 5.1 sound effect, more than happy. I did not try the other. Thanks Winston.
post #206 of 1705
I just bought the SC-05 last night from BB. Got a great deal on it, so, I couldn't pass it up. Marantz is up for sale.
post #207 of 1705
Thread Starter 
is it me or is there no way to control zone B (2) without the remote?
post #208 of 1705
My SR5004 Has arrived. I spent the entire day running wires. I'll give you my first impressions tomorrow after I get a chance to play with.. I mean work with... it a little bit. I will say this, this receiver has exceptional sound and clarity. I'm looking forward to putting it to the test.
post #209 of 1705
Hi Winston,

First, Is your 4th receiver still working??

Secondly, am I reading this correctly? Do you have two Marantz receivers, the 6004 & The 5004? I know that the 6004 has more power. But what are your thoughts about the two in a side by side comparison?
post #210 of 1705
I took some time today to just listen to My recent purchase, the 5004. To start with: Some will say that the 5004 is more of a musical receiver than a home theater receiver. I would put it this way: This receiver is accurate and refuses to throw the sound at you. It is disciplined in what it puts out for audio (IMO). This may be why people call it a musical receiver. That accuracy really was highlighted, as I listened to some musical selections, Jazz, Christian contemporary, Blues, and Rock.

This accuracy made the music that I listened to a very enjoyable experience. The highs, mids, and lows were distinct from one another, accurate is the word that I want to use. It just did a fantastic job with what I heard.

As far as the sound quality goes for movies, I really found the quality of the sound in movies to be very much in line of what I was hoping for from this receiver. It was not boomy. Nor was there confusion or mixing of sound. For example when there was dialogue combined with background musical scores, there was no confusion or mixing of the two. The voice portion stood out, and the musical background supported and did not overwhelm the speaking part. Further, when 5004 needed to it showed its mettle too. I popped in U571 and and went to the scene where the sub is being bombarded with depth charges. Those explosions sounded fantastic. I would give the 5004 an A+ in the way it handled that scene.

I also found the video upscaling to be very good. I downloaded an episode of Sanctuary from Season One onto my Apple TV. The show has a resolution of 480p. The Marantz upconverted this to 1080i. And I found the quality to be much improved. The Blacks were more saturated, and the colors more vibrant. I found this surprising. I didn't expect that dramatic of a difference from the upconversion. I really liked it.


Well those are my impressions after sitting down with this unit for the first real session that I've had with it.

At this point, I really like it. I've not had any issues with it at this point. And I look forward to familiarizing myself with more of its features as time goes on.
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