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post #691 of 1680
Why would the HDMI board cause an overload in the powersupply?
Sounds like a design flaw!
post #692 of 1680
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Originally Posted by soren View Post

Why would the HDMI board cause an overload in the powersupply?
Sounds like a design flaw!

I emailed my dealer -who was kind enough to exchange four units for me - and he confirmed that he had received the following message:
"Marantz has discovered an issue with the receivers and is working on a fix",
post #693 of 1680
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Originally Posted by soren View Post

Why would the HDMI board cause an overload in the powersupply?
Sounds like a design flaw!

and the wirebridge does not sound as much like a fix as more of a patch/workaround...I wonder if Marantz can isolate the problem by serial number.
post #694 of 1680
Well atleast there is some progress relating to the problem
post #695 of 1680
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Originally Posted by vesipisara View Post

Well atleast there is some progress relating to the problem

Finally got through to Marantz US Customer Support:

"there is no report of systemic failure with the 6004/5004 and there is no problem with the HDMI voltage levels causing power supply failures."

post #696 of 1680
Doh :/

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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Finally got through to Marantz US Customer Support:

"there is no report of systemic failure with the 6004/5004 and there is no problem with the HDMI voltage levels causing power supply failures."

post #697 of 1680
Hm that's strange. Hope you get yours fixed asap. I do worry a little about heat buildup. My receiver is in a cabinet which is always open (so front is not covered), I have about 5cm free space on top, right side is free, left about 3cm and back very little (due to all the connections being there and a small hole to pass things through). Is this enough for the receiver to breathe?

My Marantz SR6004 feels pretty hot to touch, well, not burning hot but oncomfortably to hold my hand on it for a long time.
post #698 of 1680
Hi all and a happy new year!
I am new here and i have just bite the bullet, i am from Slovenia by the way. After many many many hours of reading this forum i decidede to replace my 5 years old sr 5500 with sr 5004 (i wasnt sure to buy a 5004 or 6004 but after reading the diferences i got 5004, and there was yamaha 1065 and denon 2310 in play). Man i love this receiver it really rocks and it has that lovely pure sound it is a difference with between that and my old sr 5500. I hope mine wont do that famous POP, but for now i dont have any hdmi equipment and i will get it next year with blu ray player. I have a question about audyssey. I have done auto setup but it has lovered my output considerably (fr -8,5, fl -10, c -7,5, sur -12 and sub -10) i wonder if there is something i can do to get closer to 0 db (i know i can lover the sub but what about other speakers?). And is there a setting to see what crossover has receiver put on speakers (front and center are large, and sur are small but lpf/hpf is at 160 hz, so if i set front and center to small does that mean the crossover to front is at 160 hz?, it is a bit high). Is it possible to store different settings for auto setup and manual setup (for instance if i disable audyssey will the speaker distances and output be the same or i can set it different (with manual test tone). I will have some more questions thats for sure, i hope anyone can help me, and thanks in advance. And the last questions, as it seems some receivers have trouble with hdmi are there any infos what manufacturing codes are affected?
post #699 of 1680
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

this is really spooky to keep reading about all these units dying all over the globe. think about how many people have no idea of - or little ability to read - this forum.

jackson, please post your experience on the pop of death thread. trying to keep an organized list of all dead receivers.

please also post how long you had it and what was playing/connected when it perished!

Hi Winston9332,

Happy New Year!

I bought it in Hong Kong, serial # MZ000940000826. I set it up on Dec 25 and had the POD on Dec 30. My speaker configuration is 5.1, but I have separate power amp for front L & R and middle, so no overloading. The unit was moderately warm, so for sure no overheat issue at all. The HK sole agent denied any problem,say check your connection!

Connection when POD:
HDTV AC3 output ---> coaxial in of Marantz 6004---> Dolby Digital mode --->

Front L & R and middle channels Pre out to separate power AMP

only surround L & R is powered directly by Marantz 6004

I was watching TV in this set up with very moderate volume for about half an hour then BEE....POP. I didn't even press any button or change any input at that moment.
post #700 of 1680
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Originally Posted by jacksoncychu View Post

Hi Winston9332,

Happy New Year!

I bought it in Hong Kong, serial # MZ000940000826. I set it up on Dec 25 and had the POD on Dec 30. My speaker configuration is 5.1, but I have separate power amp for front L & R and middle, so no overloading. The unit was moderately warm, so for sure no overheat issue at all. The HK sole agent denied any problem,say check your connection!

Connection when POD:
HDTV AC3 output ---> coaxial in of Marantz 6004---> Dolby Digital mode --->

Front L & R and middle channels Pre out to separate power AMP

only surround L & R is powered directly by Marantz 6004

I was watching TV in this set up with very moderate volume for about half an hour then BEE....POP. I didn't even press any button or change any input at that moment.

That is nearly identical to what i experienced here stateside but with an optical connection. i wonder what would cause the hdmi board to spike in voltage if no hdmi connection - output or input was being used.

Please keep us posted on what they ultimately repair within your unit if you do not opt for an outright exchange (might be a better option considering the description of lapino's fix).
post #701 of 1680
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and as an fyi, we're looking at a 40% failure rate per the p0ll in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1199061

numbers would be closer to 50% if you count my four dead units as four and not one as reflected in the thread.

pretty absurd that there is no recognition of the problem; i think denial will play worse for new sales than acknowledgement and resolution of the issue.
post #702 of 1680
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

and as an fyi, we're looking at a 40% failure rate per the p0ll in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1199061

numbers would be closer to 50% if you count my four dead units as four and not one as reflected in the thread.

pretty absurd that there is no recognition of the problem; i think denial will play worse for new sales than acknowledgement and resolution of the issue.

omg, not long now that i will regret buying this unit instead of yamaha or denon, every day there is a new one that dies, i really hope marantz finds the solution as quick as possible...or just tell us which manufacturing codes needs repairs so that we wont be nervous every time the unit is turned on! I bougth the marantz purely because my previous receiver has been runing over 5 years without any issues.
post #703 of 1680
Yes, nothing to do with HDMI, overloaded, overheated, input....
It is a fundamental circuit problem. What can we do if Marantz keep dening the problems? the consumers will know that eventually and stop buying this model and their reputation is going to hurt badly. Do you know any ways to get in contact with the top management of Marantz? You have tried and Customer Service level won't help us in this case.

Is there any solid evidence that Lapino can provide to us, like images of the parts that fixed? e-mails from the technician?
post #704 of 1680
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Originally Posted by jacksoncychu View Post

Yes, nothing to do with HDMI, overloaded, overheated, input....
It is a fundamental circuit problem. What can we do if Marantz keep dening the problems? the consumers will know that eventually and stop buying this model and their reputation is going to hurt badly. Do you know any ways to get in contact with the top management of Marantz? You have tried and Customer Service level won't help us in this case.

Is there any solid evidence that Lapino can provide to us, like images of the parts that fixed? e-mails from the technician?

you can try emailing: ptamberelli@dm-holdings-na.com

he is the us head of sales and very much a respectable guy who is genuinely trying to sort this issue out despite a betraying cutomer support dept
post #705 of 1680
Do you know the source of that message? Is it came from Marantz US service dept. or just a rumour in the industry?
post #706 of 1680
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Originally Posted by lapino View Post

It happened with me when playing a game (Modern Warfare 2) on my PS3, so not DTS.

You posted your failure on dec 30 and they got it fixed in one day? Can you send us some images of what they have fixed, or any solid evidence that I can show to their Hong Kong agent. They denied any design problems, they said it is my connection issues! Please help!!!!!

Thanks!
post #707 of 1680
Since they have mentioned to you that all new batches should have modified, what serial no. we should look for? I wanted to ask for an exchange, but worry that I get a new replacement with the same problem.

Thanks!
post #708 of 1680
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Originally Posted by lapino View Post

Hm that's strange. Hope you get yours fixed asap. I do worry a little about heat buildup. My receiver is in a cabinet which is always open (so front is not covered), I have about 5cm free space on top, right side is free, left about 3cm and back very little (due to all the connections being there and a small hole to pass things through). Is this enough for the receiver to breathe?

My Marantz SR6004 feels pretty hot to touch, well, not burning hot but oncomfortably to hold my hand on it for a long time.

Hi Lapino,

Since they have mentioned to you that all new batches should have modified, what serial no. we should look for? I wanted to ask for an exchange, but worry that I get a new replacement with the same problem.

Thanks!
post #709 of 1680
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Originally Posted by jacksoncychu View Post

Hi Lapino,

Since they have mentioned to you that all new batches should have modified, what serial no. we should look for? I wanted to ask for an exchange, but worry that I get a new replacement with the same problem.

Thanks!

marantz has not officially come that clean with us. fingers crossed, paul posts some insight
post #710 of 1680
Sorry guys but I can't really get more input. My receiver was fixed by a local service center which is responsable for all Marantz repairs in the area. I was just lucky that it was so close to my home and that they wanted to give it a priority to get it fixed for newyears eve (party at home). Apparently it was pretty clear to them what was wrong. Maybe Marantz Europe knows about it, but US not (yet) ?
post #711 of 1680
Hi all and happy new year!
can i ask you if the sr-5004 has got relè tap noise whenever change source or speaker mode (5.1 to stereo..)?

thankx
post #712 of 1680
Hi all...happy new year to all....new poster here (but visited here many times in the past).....

Since deciding to get the SR6004 a few days ago I stumbled across this thread....I have been reading all 20-odd riveting pages over the last couple days hoping there would be a positive outcome regarding the POD.....it appears waiting is now in order....I think I can now say I would have to see both a) acknowledgment from Marantz of the issue and obviously a fix and b) some way of identifying units that have the fix (presumably serial number, post-POD fix)......but I really want to upgrade ASAP, so I'm looking into alternatives on the off-chance this isn't resolved appropriately and in a timely fashion.....my condolences to all of you that have suffered so...especially Winston.....I seriously cannot even imagine the additional stress that is added to ones life by knowing that at any time your $1k+ receiver is going to blow....one ought to at least be able to depend on your AVR working tirelessly on a daily basis without crapping out.....but I digress....

So here's my question (assuming I get the SR6004): I have a 5.1 set-up and I want to retain it pretty much as is except for loosing the Yamaha RX-V730 receiver that I have never really cared for.....and I want to bi-amp the front L/R speakers with the extra 2 amps on the SR6004. Has anyone on this forum tried this with this receiver? From the manual it appears you do the "switch C" thing and I assume you then either set it for 5.1 during initial set-up or it knows your intentions already by the "switch C" thing. Is this all it takes other than running the extra wires to bi-amp-able speakers? Will I gain anything? Will I lose anything? Using JBL ti5000 L/R, JBL SVA center and JBL (again) 4206's for surrounds......homebrew 12 inch sub....and probably get the oppo BR player (or equiv) at the same time....I am most interested in decent 2 channel and multi channel sound quality, followed by DVD/bluray movie watching (if there's more info I need to divulge to properly address this inquiry, please advise...).

Thanks much in advance for the help and/or advice....- Steve
post #713 of 1680
Happy new year to all of you
Where do I find the Code from my recorder/dvd panasonic dmr-eh65 so that I can learn my SR 6400 remote to work with my Panasonic?
post #714 of 1680
To the people who's amp died, i am interested if u left the amp always on or left it on standby or that u switched it off with the power switch on the front.

My marantz sr 5004 black is now 3 months old, has never been turned off or set to standby. No problems what so ever yet.

It's purchased in holland, model number sr5004/N1B and my serial is MZ000934000172.
post #715 of 1680
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Originally Posted by soren View Post

...Sounds like a design flaw!

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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

and as an fyi, we're looking at a 40% failure rate per the p0ll in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1199061

numbers would be closer to 50% if you count my four dead units as four and not one as reflected in the thread.

pretty absurd that there is no recognition of the problem; i think denial will play worse for new sales than acknowledgement and resolution of the issue.

Posted this already (Dec 27) at the german "hifi-forum":
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Aber was heißt denn "wie viele Geräte"? Drüben im AVSForum sind es gerade mal ACHT Leute, die sich mit einem Defekt gemeldet haben. Inklusive dir, litchblade. Hier sind es VIER weitere.

Ich weiß ja nicht wie viele Geräte Marantz in den letzten drei Monaten verkauft hat, aber es werden sicherlich signifikant mehr sein. Da von einer "auffälligen Zahl" zu sprechen, halte ich für übertrieben.

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But what is meant by "how many devices"? Over in AVSForum are just EIGHT people who have made themselves known with a defect. Including you, litchblade. Here are FOUR more.

I do not know how many devices Marantz in the past three months has sold, but it will certainly be significantly more. To talk of an "abnormal number", I think is exaggerated.

Now here are TEN people reporting failure with thirteen devices and just FIVE over in Germany. I think Marantz would never acknowledge this as a "design flaw"...but hopefully re-design the devices.
post #716 of 1680
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Originally Posted by goemichel View Post

Posted this already (Dec 27) at the german "hifi-forum":Translation:

Now here are TEN people reporting failure with thirteen devices and just FIVE over in Germany. I think Marantz would never acknowledge this as a "design flaw"...but hopefully re-design the devices.

i would encourage you to post the link the POD thread to the german site. hopefully, a little google translate later they too can share their experience.

although we don't have the issue resolved, we've come a long way since my first unit died and everyone was sayiing it was my setup!
post #717 of 1680
Mind also that my Marantz was fixed by a service center, and not by Marantz themselves. But they got instructions about what was wrong with it, so my guess is, it's just an issue with the first few 5004/6004's being sold and that it's fixed now. Sometimes it pays to wait

Also, I wouldn't take posts on a forum as a good indication about how many receivers were/are bad or broke down. Most AV enthousiasts do NOT surf the web like people here do. They just turn to their dealer to get their machines fixed.
post #718 of 1680
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Originally Posted by lapino View Post

Mind also that my Marantz was fixed by a service center, and not by Marantz themselves. But they got instructions about what was wrong with it, so my guess is, it's just an issue with the first few 5004/6004's being sold and that it's fixed now. Sometimes it pays to wait

Also, I wouldn't take posts on a forum as a good indication about how many receivers were/are bad or broke down. Most AV enthousiasts do NOT surf the web like people here do. They just turn to their dealer to get their machines fixed.

one would think a service bulletin has been issued instructing local repair shops on how to do the bridge workaround...
post #719 of 1680
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Originally Posted by plata90 View Post

Hi all and happy new year!
can i ask you if the sr-5004 has got relè (relay) tap noise whenever change source or speaker mode (5.1 to stereo..)?

thankx

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post #720 of 1680
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slight noise, but not overly noticeable. nothing like the loud clicking my onkyo 1007 makes.
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