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post #121 of 223
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Will rent, but the wife might boss sweet-talk me into going to the theater...

Seems like an acceptable thing to get a raise.

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Thought you called your wife boss at first read, destroyed my joke somewhat.
post #122 of 223
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

It has already made more money then John Carter did on the international market.

Problem is - international ticket sales are not as profitable to a USA Studio as domestic ticket sales are.
post #123 of 223
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Seems like an acceptable thing to get a raise.

EDIT

Thought you called your wife boss at first read, destroyed my joke somewhat.

Think for sec, still a decent joke.

larry
post #124 of 223
The dolts responsible for greenlighting this now confirmed turkey should be fired. Any studio that has game board movies in development (that's you, Paramount) should drop them like radioactive pellets right the frick now.

With the hundreds of people I know in this city who post on Facebook, not one has said a thing about this movie. Which means not one of them has gone to see it. Which means this thing is not in any way connecting with the public.

25 million is basically 12 million back in the mid 90's and that means this is a very soft opening.
post #125 of 223
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Problem is - international ticket sales are not as profitable to a USA Studio as domestic ticket sales are.

Actually that may not apply for a studio like universal that has an international division, compared to lionsgate that has none. Because universal doesnt need to outsource its distribution to other companies.


For a movie like gladiator, they only had the international market to make money from.
post #126 of 223
And they cancelled DUNE for this! Still, I'm sure they realized that if people would pay money for the rancid TRANSFORMERS movies, then more rock'em-sock'em robots would do the same. No one cared about story of logic in those movies, so why should they bother in BATTLESHIP?
post #127 of 223
This movie just confirms the absurdity of modern Hollywood's approach to making movies: They make Z grade movies on an A grade budget. At least the makers of efforts such as The Creeping Terror had a lack of budget as an excuse.
post #128 of 223
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Originally Posted by cinema13 View Post

And they cancelled DUNE for this!

Funny, ain't it?

Filming Dune is problematic....DL's version is good enough IMO.
post #129 of 223
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

Actually that may not apply for a studio like universal that has an international division, compared to lionsgate that has none. Because universal doesnt need to outsource its distribution to other companies.


For a movie like gladiator, they only had the international market to make money from.

Box Office Report: 'Battleship' Capsizes With $25.3 Mil Launch, Universal Faces Big Loss

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Battleship's international gross of $226.8 million provides some cushion, but it needed a strong domestic performance to end up in the black. A $25.3 million opening means the movie might not clear $70 million or $80 over the long haul domestically, resulting in a notable loss for Universal and sparking plenty of Monday-morning quarterbacking within the studio about what went wrong.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ictator-326981
post #130 of 223
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Will rent, but the wife might boss sweet-talk me into going to the theater...

Don't Do It! You've been warned...
post #131 of 223
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Box Office Report: 'Battleship' Capsizes With $25.3 Mil Launch, Universal Faces Big Loss

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ictator-326981

The problem might be that the visuals and sound design shown in the trailers seemed so incredibly familiar and reminiscent of the very recent Transformers: DoTM (transforming machinery visuals and sounds, crumbling skyscrapers, gunships firing super missiles, etc.), Skyline/Battle LA (invading aliens and their crafts), etc. Too much familiar stuff, too soon.
post #132 of 223
God forbid that the green-lighters spend their millions on, oh...say...an adaptation of Clarke's CHILDHOOD'S END? Or something besides Metal Machine Madness. (I can only shudder at what they're gonna do to a "modernized" ROBOCOP.)
post #133 of 223
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The problem might be that the visuals and sound design shown in the trailers seemed so incredibly familiar and reminiscent of the very recent Transformers: DoTM (transforming machinery visuals and sounds, crumbling skyscrapers, gunships firing super missiles, etc.), Skyline/Battle LA (invading aliens and their crafts), etc. Too much familiar stuff, too soon.

Almost everything coming out of Hollywood these days is reminiscent of some recent Hollywood junk.

Battleship started off entertaining, but plunged into complete silliness. So ridiculous, predictable and corny this movie turned out to be.

Having said that, I predict this movie to extremely popular among AVS bassheads from the subwoofer forum. They will eat this movie for just a few scenes of below 20hz content.
post #134 of 223
Battleship's international gross of $226.8 million provides some cushion, but it needed a strong domestic performance to end up in the black. A $25.3 million opening means the movie might not clear $70 million or $80 over the long haul domestically, resulting in a notable loss for Universal and sparking plenty of Monday-morning quarterbacking within the studio about what went wrong.

Here's my amateur analysis- it's a stupid to base a movie on a board game.
post #135 of 223
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Box Office Report: 'Battleship' Capsizes With $25.3 Mil Launch, Universal Faces Big Loss

Nice
post #136 of 223
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This doesn't bode well for Candy Land and Monopoly. No, I'm not making a joke.
post #137 of 223
They made a book about it already!
LL
post #138 of 223
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Box Office Report: 'Battleship' Capsizes With $25.3 Mil Launch, Universal Faces Big Loss

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ictator-326981

I didnt say that the US market isnt important, its the biggest single market out there. But its foolish to judge a movies success on the US market alone, when its the total market that actually determines if a movie is successful.

This is also one of the reason we see dumb down movies, because the studios wants movies that works everywere in the world.
post #139 of 223
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

But its foolish to judge a movies success on the US market alone, when its the total market that actually determines if a movie is successful.

Total market minus total expenses.

It's made $240 million, but it cost $209 million alone just to make the thing, not to mention marketing, prints, advertising, etc. Anymore, Hollywood movies have to earn well over twice their filming budget just to get in the black. Remember John Carter? Did well overseas, too, but failed in the US, didn't make it into the black, and that's the last we'll hear of it.

That's why the combined total is so important, and a major haul in the US usually translates into an even better push abroad. It's possible a film could be successful on overseas box office alone, but it doesn't happen very often.
post #140 of 223
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

Total market minus total expenses.

It's made $240 million, but it cost $209 million alone just to make the thing, not to mention marketing, prints, advertising, etc. Anymore, Hollywood movies have to earn well over twice their filming budget just to get in the black. Remember John Carter? Did well overseas, too, but failed in the US, didn't make it into the black, and that's the last we'll hear of it.

Yes the movie needs more money to break even. I dont know how much Battleship needs since I have no marketing numbers.

John Carter may be an extreme example since it ran over budget.
post #141 of 223
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

That's why the combined total is so important, and a major haul in the US usually translates into an even better push abroad. It's possible a film could be successful on overseas box office alone, but it doesn't happen very often.

In this case they released it in the US almost last. I guess they calculated that it would do better overseas, and wanted to avoid a US backlash effecting the global market.

But I think few movies are calculated to bomb on the US market. Not with 200 million budgets. They need it to work everywere.
post #142 of 223
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But I think few movies are calculated to bomb on the US market. Not with 200 million budgets. They need it to work everywere.

Almost no films are "calculated" to bomb in the US if they come from Hollywood, but predicting box office is generally dumb luck anyway.

William Goldman said "nobody in Hollywood knows anything." What he meant was that for all the focus groups, analyses, and marketing studies, no one can say for sure how well a movie will do until it actually opens. "Surefire hits" have turned out to be bombs, films expected to be DOA have succeeded, and every other variation you can think of, and no one can say exactly why (except maybe in hindsight.)

If you could accurately and consistently predict box office results, you'd have some very lucrative job offers from some very anxious studios very quickly.
post #143 of 223
one thing for sure it's a bad year for Taylor Kitsch! He should try romcoms
post #144 of 223
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Originally Posted by cinema13 View Post

God forbid that the green-lighters spend their millions on, oh...say...an adaptation of Clarke's CHILDHOOD'S END? Or something besides Metal Machine Madness. (I can only shudder at what they're gonna do to a "modernized" ROBOCOP.)

We've already got a thread here talking about what SF book would make a good movie. It's mind-blowing how Hollywood puts profits before a good storytelling but that's true with just about every major corporation right now. Money first - service/product satisfaction second. If everyone serves up schlock, you don't have much of a choice.
post #145 of 223
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Originally Posted by cinema13 View Post

God forbid that the green-lighters spend their millions on, oh...say...an adaptation of Clarke's CHILDHOOD'S END?

Oh wow, something like that is in development hell? I loved that book! It would make a great movie, especially now with the way CGI has progressed.
post #146 of 223
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Originally Posted by cinema13 View Post

God forbid that the green-lighters spend their millions on, oh...say...an adaptation of Clarke's CHILDHOOD'S END?

I could just see literary know-nothings complaining about "stealing" the idea of giant spaceships parked over major cities from Independence Day.
post #147 of 223
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i could just see literary know-nothings complaining about "stealing" the idea of giant spaceships parked over major cities from independence day.

:d
post #148 of 223
This is for all you Rihanna fans...all 68 lines of her dialogue. Shakespeare it isn't.

http://gammasquad.uproxx.com/2012/05...ne-of-dialogue
post #149 of 223
She played a very decent Will Smith.
post #150 of 223
Funny how she was able to kick some alien booty but Chris Brown...not so much.
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