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post #2071 of 3153
I have the Bd85 set to 1080p as sometimes there was an issue with 24p playback switching to 60i after a pause on the player before the R972 was purchased. I will try auto and see if it makes a difference. What HDMI In are you using? I am using HDMI1.

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post #2072 of 3153
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Originally Posted by gmanhdtv View Post

Your not alone! mad.gif

They said there is a delay and it will take another 3-5 days. The wait is killing me.
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Originally Posted by vectorized View Post

If I put in V.Bypass, my DTS Master Audio drops out and doesn't come back without a bunch of cycles of HDMI inputs. This is getting very annoying.

If I leave the Video Scaling in Auto, I get audio without the pops and dropouts, but I have the issue with the picture going a purple/green and other picture related issues. I don't trust that the scaler is better than the one in the Panasonic player.

Its a version 1.47i and HDMI 1.11, Refurbished unit.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated. I love the sound and the unit appears to be high quality, but the interface is questionable for a $1800 list product. I'm afraid now of selling my Denon AVR-888 now as it works flawlessly even though it has no on-board lossless decoding and only 2 HDMI ins.

Are you selecting bitstream or PCM in the Panasonic? The Panasonic player I had showed similar issues when I selected bitstream and I wasn't sure if it was the player or the 972. I replaced the Panasonic with an Oppo and it bitstreams without issue to the 972.
post #2074 of 3153
I am sending the Bitstream to the R972. It seems to work fine if V.Upscale is set to Bypass and I leave it on the bluray player. If I switch back and forth between HDMI inputs like my Oppo, DVR and Satellite Receiver, when I go back to the bluray player there is no sound just some pops and stutters. If I switch to another audio stream on the blurap and back to the main audio track is syncs up again. If I set the V.Upscale to Auto, the audio works flawlessly, but the video goes to purple/green randomly if I switch inputs back and forth. It seems like the Panasonic and the R972 are a bad pairing for some reason or another. I'm loving the sound of the Sherwood (the main reason I have it) but I do feel that in this day and age, there should not be HDMI issues regardless of whats connected to it.
post #2075 of 3153
I had problems with my blu-ray player on HDMI2. Somewhere in this thread, others have said to they had the same problem and switching to HDMI1 fixed the problem. So I tried that, and it works fine. My FiOS DVR works fine on HDMI2.
post #2076 of 3153
yawn... still waiting on a shipping notice from 1slowsaleaday.com..l knew from previous experience with them that they are super slow, so not surprised...
post #2077 of 3153
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Originally Posted by vectorized View Post

I am sending the Bitstream to the R972. It seems to work fine if V.Upscale is set to Bypass and I leave it on the bluray player. If I switch back and forth between HDMI inputs like my Oppo, DVR and Satellite Receiver, when I go back to the bluray player there is no sound just some pops and stutters. If I switch to another audio stream on the blurap and back to the main audio track is syncs up again. If I set the V.Upscale to Auto, the audio works flawlessly, but the video goes to purple/green randomly if I switch inputs back and forth. It seems like the Panasonic and the R972 are a bad pairing for some reason or another. I'm loving the sound of the Sherwood (the main reason I have it) but I do feel that in this day and age, there should not be HDMI issues regardless of whats connected to it.
Try turning off deep color in the player. That did the trick for me.

I have set the sherwood to pass-through for video.
post #2078 of 3153
Anyone uses a Roku 2 XD player to stream Netflix?

For 5.1 content, 972 does not get the signal from Roku. Don't know whether it is a problem from Roku or 972. Any experience?
post #2079 of 3153
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Anyone uses a Roku 2 XD player to stream Netflix?

For 5.1 content, 972 does not get the signal from Roku. Don't know whether it is a problem from Roku or 972. Any experience?
Does the Roku support 5.1 from Netflix? I know many Netflix compatible devices don't.
post #2080 of 3153
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Does the Roku support 5.1 from Netflix? I know many Netflix compatible devices don't.

You need the "XS" model for DD+ 5.1.
post #2081 of 3153
The Roku 2 XD supports 5.1 netflix
post #2082 of 3153
I just checked and you are correct. The XS is the only one to offer ethernet connectivity though which to me is very important.
post #2083 of 3153
Hi guys!

I'm thinking of this receiver to switch out my Emotiva UMC - 1.... One thing I hate about the UMC - 1 is the fact that there is a delay every time you switch to an input and it also takes a sencond or so to lock-on in between songs (streamed from Fusion HD) so does this receiver have any problems like that? Is there any problems I should be aware of before getting this receiver? Better yet, are there any firmwares in the works for them? I would just like to know what to expect so any information would help....

Overall, I'm really starting to like this receiver especially after doing some research. smile.gif

Thanks!!
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Hi everyone, just bought at A4L. Question, can somebody link me to a copy of the user manual? The link at page #62, post #1841 isn't working. My Mac couldn't find the server or it was gone, will try with my PC lator. All help much appreciated! Doug:)
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Thanks to Augmont and jss designs I am all hooked up. Now to catch up on my reading by saturday. smile.gif Doug G.
post #2087 of 3153
Any more intel as to when 1saleaday will have the 972's again?
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Any more intel as to when 1saleaday will have the 972's again?


AGAIN??????

They still have not shipped any of the 972's that were purchased on 1/3/13!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEVER AGAIN FOR ME
post #2089 of 3153
Video scaler - anyone has issue with this?

My PS3 works great but Roku player would hang on Netflix 5.1 content if video scaler is not turned bypass.
post #2090 of 3153
I'm pretty sure I know this allready but the R-972 does not have ARC, audio return channel, support? rolleyes.gif
post #2091 of 3153
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I'm pretty sure I know this allready but the R-972 does not have ARC, audio return channel, support? rolleyes.gif
No, it doesn't.
post #2092 of 3153
After a month with this receiver I am sending it back, I do find that it has fantastic sound. The quirks did it for me though. The lock on delays for sound and layer changes on standard dvd's and other sources were irritating. The remote was a pain to use but not a deal breaker. Also had issues with the 12v triggers not working.
However, the Trinnov is the real deal. I would give the slight edge to the Sherwood for movies over my Onkyo 5508. There were definetly some more detail brought to the fore with this receiver. For the price, I don't believe there is anything even close. If I didn't already have the Onkyo, this would have stayed in my set-up.
post #2093 of 3153
I've been much happier with the R-972 since I just stopped trying to run video through it. Always some glitch or another. I use only two video sources and my projector has two HDMI inputs. I run the source's HDMI outputs directly to the projector and send the sound to the R-972 via coax and optical connections. I feared that might induce lip-sync problems, but it did not.

Any scuttlebutt on any new affordable AVR's or Pre/Pro's with Trinnov, maybe even an improved version. With 8-10 major manufacturers out there competing in the AVR market with products with very similar features, it looks like one of them would try to increase their market share by offering Trinnov as an improved calibration system over their competitors. I had hoped either Emotiva or Outlaw might offer Trinnov in their recently introduced pre/pro's, but Emotiva went with a proprietary system (with no spacial correction) and Outlaw omitted auto calibration all together.
post #2094 of 3153
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Originally Posted by mraub View Post

I've been much happier with the R-972 since I just stopped trying to run video through it. Always some glitch or another. I use only two video sources and my projector has two HDMI inputs. I run the source's HDMI outputs directly to the projector and send the sound to the R-972 via coax and optical connections. I feared that might induce lip-sync problems, but it did not..
The optical and coax connections lack the bandwidth to benefit from the likes of TrueHD. I have my unit connected to a PS3 in the rec-room, and it sends the signal to a FP. I have only experienced a couple of problems over the past 8 months. 1. It changed the resolution being sent to the FP, a reboot fix it; 2. It did not want to start with the remote, again shutting it off and back on fixed it. Each of these occurred only a couple of times. The unit gets used on avg once or twice per week.

YMMV
post #2095 of 3153
The last 2 weekends I have experimented with one of my R-972s using dipole speakers for both side surrounds and rear surrounds. The speakers used were Boston Acoustics 575x for side surrounds and VRS Pro for rear surrounds. When running Trinnov, I found that the results were best when pointing the in-phase tweeters directly at the Trinnov calibration microphone. After calibration, I turned the speakers back to their original normal positioning. Before pointing the in-phase tweeters of the dipole speakers, the R-972 had to send the test signals 10 times to the dipole speakers during calibration. Sometimes it failed to identify one of the speakers. With the in-phase tweeters aimed at the microphone, the Trinnov calibration was successful after sending just 3 test signals to each speaker.

After playing with several different setups, I found that I preferred using a pair of side surrounds identical to the front 3 main speakers (All Boston Acoustics CR-8) in combination with a pair of smaller bookshelf speakers as front height speakers. The height speakers were hooked up to the R-972's rear surround speaker binding posts. As mentioned in the R-972 Trinnov user notes thread, Trinnov adjusts for the rear surround speakers now becoming front height speakers. I really like the flexibility of the Trinnov calibration and I'll probably experiment with front wide speakers also before I finalize my speaker locations.

I want to stress the importance of resetting the R-972 before re-running Trinnov when making big changes like this. I used my iPhone to take pictures of all the setup screens so that I could very quickly re-enter settings after resetting the R-972.
post #2096 of 3153
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Originally Posted by Raul GS View Post

The optical and coax connections lack the bandwidth to benefit from the likes of TrueHD.

True, but the higher bitrate Dolby and DTS soundtracks can be passed, and everything I've read indicates the sound is indistinguishable from the lossless versions.
Edited by noah katz - 1/31/13 at 8:51pm
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The 1SaleADay units have started to ship... 

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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

The 1SaleADay units have started to ship... 


Hopefully not by boat..............
post #2099 of 3153
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Originally Posted by mraub View Post

Any scuttlebutt on any new affordable AVR's or Pre/Pro's with Trinnov, maybe even an improved version. With 8-10 major manufacturers out there competing in the AVR market with products with very similar features, it looks like one of them would try to increase their market share by offering Trinnov as an improved calibration system over their competitors. I had hoped either Emotiva or Outlaw might offer Trinnov in their recently introduced pre/pro's, but Emotiva went with a proprietary system (with no spacial correction) and Outlaw omitted auto calibration all together.

The "re-mapping" that Trinnov uses is not likely to be imitated.Trinnov's scientist recognized, mastered and patented the use of advanced mathematics called the Bessel/Fourier Transform to add direction and dimension to frequency and time. Trinnov's licensing comes at a much higher cost than most of it's competitors tech. Sherwood and Trinnov took a big gamble with the R-972 and the outcome, as you can see from the liquidation pricing going on,wasn't very profitable.
post #2100 of 3153
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Originally Posted by StevenLansing View Post

The "re-mapping" that Trinnov uses is not likely to be imitated.Trinnov's scientist recognized, mastered and patented the use of advanced mathematics called the Bessel/Fourier Transform to add direction and dimension to frequency and time. Trinnov's licensing comes at a much higher cost than most of it's competitors tech. Sherwood and Trinnov took a big gamble with the R-972 and the outcome, as you can see from the liquidation pricing going on,wasn't very profitable.

Sherwood isn't really considered a main player in AVRs now, which might have been the main reason.

If say, Pioneer licensed it for one of their models and used it over MCACC which most of us hate, it would give me a reason to own a pioneer avr again.

Either way, I'm looking forward to trying it out.
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