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post #2821 of 3159
Since most threads have a tendency to only be for problems, I thought I would mention some positives. The biggest one being this receiver lets me enjoy the movie without wondering about tweaking this or getting this to sound better. I just watch and am amazed. I hope this lasts very long because I can't imagine being without it unless something else amazing comes along. Jack the Giant Slayer sounded amazing on this. The gunshots from Snitch felt like they could cut right through you, just to name a few.

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post #2822 of 3159
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Since most threads have a tendency to only be for problems, I thought I would mention some positives. The biggest one being this receiver lets me enjoy the movie without wondering about tweaking this or getting this to sound better. I just watch and am amazed. I hope this lasts very long because I can't imagine being without it unless something else amazing comes along. Jack the Giant Slayer sounded amazing on this. The gunshots from Snitch felt like they could cut right through you, just to name a few.
That's the only reason why this thread is still alive. We here LOVE TRINNOV, but the quirks...ugh...
post #2823 of 3159
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

That's the only reason why this thread is still alive. We here LOVE TRINNOV, but the quirks...ugh...

Agreed
post #2824 of 3159
While I would prefer that the R-972 didn't have a few quirks, everytime I use it I'm thrilled at how incredible it makes both of my theaters sound. Last night I watched a couple episodes of Burn Notice on Netflix with my wife and it was great. Then I played Killzone 2 on the PS3 for less than an hour and it felt very immersive.

When we go to the movies, we now usually comment on how our primary home theater sounds much better than the commercial theater. Trinnov is amazing.
post #2825 of 3159
Other than the codec switching delay, I don't have any issues, either.

Since I've cut the cord a while back and don't switch channels, the codec switching is practically no issue at all in my case.

My ONLY issue is that if my R-972 ever dies, I am not going to know what to do. Really do not want to go back to Audyssey after Trinnov and do not want to spend $10k+ on the only other Trinnov options available.

Really wish someone would do Trinnov in a modern, lighter, Class D receiver....
post #2826 of 3159
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Originally Posted by Encom Tron View Post

While I would prefer that the R-972 didn't have a few quirks, everytime I use it I'm thrilled at how incredible it makes both of my theaters sound. Last night I watched a couple episodes of Burn Notice on Netflix with my wife and it was great. Then I played Killzone 2 on the PS3 for less than an hour and it felt very immersive.

When we go to the movies, we now usually comment on how our primary home theater sounds much better than the commercial theater. Trinnov is amazing.

It's not even comparable anymore for me. The last movie I saw in the theater was the new Star Trek, and I kept thinking "my subs can go lower than this". With my new DIY speakers on top of it, along with Trinnov, the theater doesn't compare.
post #2827 of 3159
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Originally Posted by Ryan1 View Post

Other than the codec switching delay, I don't have any issues, either.

Since I've cut the cord a while back and don't switch channels, the codec switching is practically no issue at all in my case.

My ONLY issue is that if my R-972 ever dies, I am not going to know what to do. Really do not want to go back to Audyssey after Trinnov and do not want to spend $10k+ on the only other Trinnov options available.

Really wish someone would do Trinnov in a modern, lighter, Class D receiver....

It would be nice in a receiver, but I'd actually probably prefer an affordable standalone.
post #2828 of 3159
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Since most threads have a tendency to only be for problems, I thought I would mention some positives. The biggest one being this receiver lets me enjoy the movie without wondering about tweaking this or getting this to sound better. I just watch and am amazed. I hope this lasts very long because I can't imagine being without it unless something else amazing comes along. Jack the Giant Slayer sounded amazing on this. The gunshots from Snitch felt like they could cut right through you, just to name a few.

I used to be in the "all receivers sound similar" camp and upgraded my receivers based on more modern connectivity inputs. In my primary home theater went from a Denon 3300 to a Onkyo 805 (which I still own) on to the Sherwood 972. Yes it has some quirks but I completely agree with the sound improvements. I am not a reviewer but I can hear a cleaner and fuller sound stage, subtle but noticeable improvement in surround sound elements as well as much cleaner dialog in movie soundtracks.

I use the 972 as a preamp to my dual Acurus 200X3 amps feeding my Def Tech BP 30's in front , CLR 2000 with Klipsch surrounds. Having been addicted to all things audio and video since the early 70's, yeah I am getting old, to my ears the 972 just sounds better than my Onkyo.

If you have a chance to hear one for yourself, go for it. If you can buy one at the liquidated prices it is a no brainer!cool.gif
post #2829 of 3159
The codec audio muting is one thing, but I've had to modify my behavior on loud volume DTS-MA tracks due to the speaker killing noises. Now I pause and seek a movie before hitting play instead of skipping around. 972 when it gets confused gets irrrrrate.
post #2830 of 3159
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Originally Posted by stm69 View Post

The codec audio muting is one thing, but I've had to modify my behavior on loud volume DTS-MA tracks due to the speaker killing noises. Now I pause and seek a movie before hitting play instead of skipping around. 972 when it gets confused gets irrrrrate.
I've seen this quoted before but am still unsure what the "speaker killing noises" are! I have listened to quite a few dts-ma soundtracks and have not encountered this. Someone fill me in so when it does happen I am not freaked out!
post #2831 of 3159
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

I've seen this quoted before but am still unsure what the "speaker killing noises" are! I have listened to quite a few dts-ma soundtracks and have not encountered this. Someone fill me in so when it does happen I am not freaked out!
I have not encountered this problem as well.
post #2832 of 3159
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

I have not encountered this problem as well.

I too have never experienced this problem using 3 R-972s over the past 9 months. I've used both the internal amps as well as separate external amps with all 3 units and the only time I experienced any noise was when I left the calibration microphone connected once.
post #2833 of 3159
Hi,
I've had this receiver for less than a week purchased from ac4l. While watching a movie the receiver's display window went blank followed by the letter "o" in white at the bottom of the display and then it went blank.I tried several re-sets to no avail. This has the latest firmware. Anyone experience or heard anything like this? Thank you!
Bill
post #2834 of 3159
I've never heard the killer noise, over a year. Never had the o either, good puck.
post #2835 of 3159
BIG +1 on this post! I have the R-972 in a second room because of space considerations (and the R-972 is such a quirky bugger to use) but after owning the R-972 for many months I am still blown away by the Trinnov processing experience when watching movies. The first company that can deliver a decent and usable receiver with Trinnov has my money - I'd love to try it in my family room with a people friendly receiver that my wife and kids would find usable.

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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Since most threads have a tendency to only be for problems, I thought I would mention some positives. The biggest one being this receiver lets me enjoy the movie without wondering about tweaking this or getting this to sound better.
post #2836 of 3159
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Originally Posted by Plasma Bill View Post

Hi,
I've had this receiver for less than a week purchased from ac4l. While watching a movie the receiver's display window went blank followed by the letter "o" in white at the bottom of the display and then it went blank.I tried several re-sets to no avail. This has the latest firmware. Anyone experience or heard anything like this? Thank you!
Bill
that sounds bad and I don't know of anyone here or on the shack who has had that. Time for a replacement!

Now, about the "speaker killing noise" WTF is that all about? someone fill me in! I know it will happen at sometime or another with this things quirks...
post #2837 of 3159
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

that sounds bad and I don't know of anyone here or on the shack who has had that. Time for a replacement!

Now, about the "speaker killing noise" WTF is that all about? someone fill me in! I know it will happen at sometime or another with this things quirks...

My speaker killing noise came when I was bitstreaming from my Panasonic BDT500. When I did LPCM it didn't happen. I later sold the Panasonic and bought an Oppo 103 and I can bitstream just fine. So my speaker killing noise wasn't the R972 it was the Bluray player not playing nice with the R972.
post #2838 of 3159
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

My speaker killing noise came when I was bitstreaming from my Panasonic BDT500. When I did LPCM it didn't happen. I later sold the Panasonic and bought an Oppo 103 and I can bitstream just fine. So my speaker killing noise wasn't the R972 it was the Bluray player not playing nice with the R972.
gotcha, it was a specific device that caused it. As I don't have a Panny, I won't worry about ti! biggrin.gif
post #2839 of 3159
I have had 2 Panasonics bitstreaming to the Sherwood and have never had the noises. I wonder if it had to do with a defective blu ray player.
post #2840 of 3159
I am outputting HDMI from a HTPC (Nvidia video card). Will get some video and upload it to youtube tommorrow for you all to see.
post #2841 of 3159
Hi guys,

Uploaded a video demonstrating the "Sherwood Clack of Death". First movie (Black Hawk Down) uses a DTS track and I just forward through it a bit showing everything is normal. Second movie (Battleship) uses a DTS-MA track, after some forwarding it happens around the 1:15 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNdIqdA2jcE
post #2842 of 3159
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Originally Posted by stm69 View Post

Hi guys,

Uploaded a video demonstrating the "Sherwood Clack of Death". First movie (Black Hawk Down) uses a DTS track and I just forward through it a bit showing everything is normal. Second movie (Battleship) uses a DTS-MA track, after some forwarding it happens around the 1:15 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNdIqdA2jcE
Have you tried a different source?
post #2843 of 3159
Hi guys,
I received my replacement (new) unit from ac4l and everything is working perfectly - fingers crossed! Couple of questions I have, do the bass hex files have to be re-installed after doing a re-set or do they stay installed? Also - can someone be kind enough to explain how to check the firmware version? I would like to thank everyone in advance - I've been a long time member who does not post very often but the level of expertise in this forum is just invaluable for fellow hobbyists like myself.
Thanks again!
Best Regards,
Bill
post #2844 of 3159
Plasma Bill:

The HEX codes change the playback targets and are not effected by a re-set.

Jeff
post #2845 of 3159
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

Have you tried a different source?

I will try a new hdmi cable, then new hdmi input, then new video card in the HTPC, then updated codec pack. Any other suggestions? As you can tell, this bug is not so "livable".
post #2846 of 3159
Thank you very much, Jeff!
post #2847 of 3159
Just looked at the Sherwood USA site and there's 2 FW options listed for the 972. Does anyone know what these 2 options are?
post #2848 of 3159
They bring the R-972's that still have the older firmware up to the current firmware release 1.47 version.
post #2849 of 3159
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Originally Posted by islandman2020 View Post

Just to be clear to new users I only had these problems the first couple of weeks I owned it. It was because I had tried running Trinnov multiple times without resetting the unit. One I reset, everything worked without a hitch. I have had the unit over a year now, and it has been glitch free! It truly is an awesome machine.

I just ran Trinnov setup multiple times (to re-program position1, and add positions 2 and 3), and suddenly I find that my R972 will no longer go into standby.

My question is this: If I reset the unit to factory settings, will I lose all of my input assignments and labels? That would truly suck.
Edited by dkaleita - 7/8/13 at 8:20am
post #2850 of 3159
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Originally Posted by dkaleita View Post

I just ran Trinnov setup multiple times (to re-program position1, and add positions 2 and 3), and suddenly I find that my R972 will no longer go into standby.

My question is this: If I reset the unit to factory settings, will I lose all of my input assignments and labels? That would truly suck.

When you reset to factory settings you lose all your settings. This is one of the bad quirks with the 972, factory resets can be numerous especially if you change around your system often.
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