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post #3541 of 3672
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Most of Spectracal's Calman packages will do AutoCal and accept a fair amount of Meters. (Read what each Level of Calman does what, and what it supports.)
ChromaPure packages the same, but limited to Meter purchased or specified.
Both vendors usually have a comparision chart somewhere on their website.

Also, for the iScan Duo, try e-mailing: http://shop.thxvideotech.com/products/Simplay-DVDO-Duo-Video-Processor.html

Thanks for your help.
post #3542 of 3672
Hi all
Im just about to order chromapure the auto calibrate package but before I order my equipment is in the next room will a null rs232 extension cable work at 5m length-10m length?

Thank you
post #3543 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi all
Im just about to order chromapure the auto calibrate package but before I order my equipment is in the next room will a null rs232 extension cable work at 5m length-10m length?
Thank you

I use a Serial to USB adapter, then I can use USB extension cables with a powered USB hub. I mainly use this in projector calibrations where the equipment is in a separate room.
post #3544 of 3672
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Originally Posted by WiFi-Spy View Post

I use a Serial to USB adapter, then I can use USB extension cables with a powered USB hub. I mainly use this in projector calibrations where the equipment is in a separate room.

Thank you. Will go down that track
post #3545 of 3672
Just ordered, Im looking forward to it. smile.gif
post #3546 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi all
Im just about to order chromapure the auto calibrate package but before I order my equipment is in the next room will a null rs232 extension cable work at 5m length-10m length?

Thank you
I'm using a 10m serial cable and that is after a USB -> RS232 adapter (FTDI chip). No issues.
post #3547 of 3672
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Originally Posted by BeNooL View Post

I'm using a 10m serial cable and that is after a USB -> RS232 adapter (FTDI chip). No issues.

Thanks
post #3548 of 3672
Frank, DVDO run A standard rs232 cable (Supplied ) its the lumagen Radiance series that use A null cable..
The FTDI chipset based USB to RS232 addaptor's are the best to use & What both DVDO & Lumagen recommend..

I use A 5Mt USB-2.0 extension cable between the USB to RS232 addaptor and the supplied RS232 cable with no issues. Any longer & its prob best to use A USB 2.0 Active extension Repeater type to avoid possible unwanted issues..

Hope this helps..
Cheers..
post #3549 of 3672
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Originally Posted by cinema mad View Post

Frank, DVDO run A standard rs232 cable (Supplied ) its the lumagen Radiance series that use A null cable..
The FTDI chipset based USB to RS232 addaptor's are the best to use & What both DVDO & Lumagen recommend..

I use A 5Mt USB-2.0 extension cable between the USB to RS232 addaptor and the supplied RS232 cable with no issues. Any longer & its prob best to use A USB 2.0 Active extension Repeater type to avoid possible unwanted issues..

Hope this helps..
Cheers..

Thanks Jase.
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post #3551 of 3672
hopefully receive my Chromapure bundle next week. Just want to say a big thanks to Tom for his great service by responding to questions quickly.
post #3552 of 3672
Is the Duo still worth buying for auto cal or is it an old product now ? I thought the mini 3D was around $1400 but I see $2K now eek.gif
post #3553 of 3672
The Lumagens allow 125 Point 3D LUTs and 21 Point Greyscale, but there's a limitation on Inputs on the Mini unless you upscale a few hundred dollars. Have 3 Duos on the wife's sets to make them easier to calibrate, but my set has the XE-3D to both give me enough Inputs, plus the 125 / 21 Point.
post #3554 of 3672
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Is the Duo still worth buying for auto cal or is it an old product now ? I thought the mini 3D was around $1400 but I see $2K now eek.gif

From only a calibration point it really depends on the display. With some displays there will be no noticeable benefit with the superior calibration capabilities of the Radiance. Unfortunately this is hard to determine beforehand. Also the single input of the Mini 3D should be a non-issue for anyone using a modern, multiple HDMI input AVR.
post #3555 of 3672
With the current prices of the Duo it is tough to beat. With my display it is very hard to see any differences. I would not invest more than a grand these days on a VP. Well maybe if it did 4K better than my display. Still for me if I am going to spend more than a grand I may as well get the REDRAY 4K player (when it comes out).
post #3556 of 3672
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Originally Posted by praz View Post

From only a calibration point it really depends on the display. With some displays there will be no noticeable benefit with the superior calibration capabilities of the Radiance. Unfortunately this is hard to determine beforehand. Also the single input of the Mini 3D should be a non-issue for anyone using a modern, multiple HDMI input AVR.

I am thinking about getting the CP auto-cal and D3 Pro to calibrate my Kuro KRP500M and Sharp Z30000 projector. Is the Duo good enough ? I may or may not benefit from Mini3D's 125/ 21 point. Is that correct ?
post #3557 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I am thinking about getting the CP auto-cal and D3 Pro to calibrate my Kuro KRP500M and Sharp Z30000 projector. Is the Duo good enough ? I may or may not benefit from Mini3D's 125/ 21 point. Is that correct ?

Try out samples each of Calman and CP, and see which meets your requirements the best.
post #3558 of 3672
Hi all
Just curious is still recommended to do calibrations every 100 hours ? Is that what most are doing on here ?

Thanks
post #3559 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi all
Just curious is still recommended to do calibrations every 100 hours ? Is that what most are doing on here ?

Thanks

I've never heard of calibrating every 100 hrs, and from personal experience I'd find it to be way too excessive. If you have the requisite gear, twice a year should be just fine. If you have OCD or are a perfectionist, at most once every QTR. When I did that my readings were within the repeatibility margins of the meter, and even where there was deviation, it still resided well within dE error threshold, so it was kinda pointless. I know with the auto-calibration packages it's now incredibly fast and easy, but even then that kind of frequency should be unnecessary unless your display is very unstable.
Edited by Greg1981 - 3/27/13 at 9:37am
post #3560 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Greg1981 View Post

I've never heard of calibrating every 100 hrs, and from personal experience I'd find it to be way too excessive. If you have the requisite gear, twice a year should be just fine. If you have OCD or are a perfectionist, at most once every QTR. When I did that my readings were within the repeatibility margins of the meter, and even where there was deviation, it still resided well within dE error threshold, so it was kinda pointless. I know with the auto-calibration packages it's now incredibly fast and easy, but even then that kind of frequency should be unnecessary unless your display is very unstable.

Thank you for your reply. In terms of hours in the globe when will it best to do a calibration?
post #3561 of 3672
I'm planning to have a 135 cinemascope 2.35:1 screen with the Epson 5010 projector. My question is, can the duo Iscan fill the 2.35:1 with a 16:9 format? I will be watching blue rays movie and must of the format are cinemascope, but somedays I'm sure I will be watching TV Shows and those are 16:9. I want to see those shows to fill the entire 2.35:1 screen. I see contrary information about this. Some people say yes and some people say no. Can somebody that have a 2.35:1 setup without a lens confirm if I be able to do this? Those the Duo do the zoom or the projector?
post #3562 of 3672
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Originally Posted by amb1s1 View Post

I'm planning to have a 135 cinemascope 2.35:1 screen with the Epson 5010 projector. My question is, can the duo Iscan fill the 2.35:1 with a 16:9 format? I will be watching blue rays movie and must of the format are cinemascope, but somedays I'm sure I will be watching TV Shows and those are 16:9. I want to see those shows to fill the entire 2.35:1 screen. I see contrary information about this. Some people say yes and some people say no. Can somebody that have a 2.35:1 setup without a lens confirm if I be able to do this? Those the Duo do the zoom or the projector?

I think you can use the "Stretch" mode to customize the image to fit (but it may distort the image), or use "Zoom" to fill the screen and preserve the picture's aspect ratio, but the picture will then be cropped. The stretched and zoomed settings can then be saved as a user preset.
post #3563 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi all
Just curious is still recommended to do calibrations every 100 hours ? Is that what most are doing on here ?

Thanks

I seem to do it every time there's a new CP or Calman that comes out, and the last little while, quite a few Betas to check!
post #3564 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi all
Just curious is still recommended to do calibrations every 100 hours ? Is that what most are doing on here ?

Thanks

I think 100 hours is excessive. But then it might not be so excessive if you are dealing with a projector whos lame is set on high, when compared to an LED Flat panel.
post #3565 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I am thinking about getting the CP auto-cal and D3 Pro to calibrate my Kuro KRP500M and Sharp Z30000 projector. Is the Duo good enough ? I may or may not benefit from Mini3D's 125/ 21 point. Is that correct ?

It depends on how linear your display is. With the DUO you are setting only 6 colors each at a single intensity and saturation. For your displays thay maybe great, for other displays you are dancing around with a rubber chicken. Features like the Advanced Color Management feature in ChromaPure and I think Saturation Sweeps in Calman can give you a better idea of what is required. To get the best most accurate color out of a display the EE Colorbox is probably the way to go. They can do 17x3 cubes.. that is over 4 thousand individual colors corrected with interpolation color can be virtually perfect on an even wacky display.
post #3566 of 3672
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Just in:

http://chromapure.com/products-duo.asp


Ive noticed Calman 5 does auto calibrate as well. Are they both very similar in there job or does one preform better than the other? Ive downloaded the calman 5 trial version, have to admit the layout looks very impressive.
post #3567 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Ive noticed Calman 5 does auto calibrate as well. Are they both very similar in there job or does one preform better than the other? Ive downloaded the calman 5 trial version, have to admit the layout looks very impressive.

CP is currently stating it's going to withdraw the 21 Point AutoCal in favour of only 10/11 Point. After putting a request in on the Calman Forum, the following replies are given back:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1423111/calman-5-release-notes-and-discussion/1260

Note: This will not apply to the Duo since only the Radiance and/or Colorbox support the higher Point Calibrations.
post #3568 of 3672
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

CP is currently stating it's going to withdraw the 21 Point AutoCal in favour of only 10/11 Point. After putting a request in on the Calman Forum, the following replies are given back:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1423111/calman-5-release-notes-and-discussion/1260

Note: This will not apply to the Duo since only the Radiance and/or Colorbox support the higher Point Calibrations.

Thank you for that. Is the Autocal on the calman just as easy to use as its on the CP?
post #3569 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Thank you for that. Is the Autocal on the calman just as easy to use as its on the CP?

Definitely.
post #3570 of 3672
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

Definitely.

Thank you.

For members on this thread what is the most preferred calibration software for the DVDO DUO?
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