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post #3751 of 3835
It looks like I might have to use it anyway as I'm not able to store memories on my projector and I need a way to zoom the picture just a bit when lens is in place. So much for keeping things simple. Maybe just buy a new model, get rid of the processor, the lens and just zoom.

B.
post #3752 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

It looks like I might have to use it anyway as I'm not able to store memories on my projector and I need a way to zoom the picture just a bit when lens is in place. So much for keeping things simple. Maybe just buy a new model, get rid of the processor, the lens and just zoom.

B.

Yeah, you don't need that lens. You should just send it to me and get it out of your way. I will pay for shipping. biggrin.gif
post #3753 of 3835
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

I have. I'm using the X55R (4810) and while I haven't done enough A/B comparison to decide for sure, I think I would give the edge to the DVDO. I will take a look at this again and post back later.

I did come more comparison of the anamorphic stretch and I can't tell a difference between using the projector and using the DUO. I tried using paused scenes from movies with things on screen that are near the edges just to make sure nothing was being cut off in the process. If there is a difference then I can't see it.
post #3754 of 3835
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

I did come more comparison of the anamorphic stretch and I can't tell a difference between using the projector and using the DUO. I tried using paused scenes from movies with things on screen that are near the edges just to make sure nothing was being cut off in the process. If there is a difference then I can't see it.

What about with actual video? Any motion issues or differences?

B.
post #3755 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

What about with actual video? Any motion issues or differences?

B.

I will check and let you know.
post #3756 of 3835
Calman Version 5.2.0a Build #1374 now available:

http://store.spectracal.com/downloads/


Has any Member used the iScan Duo to feed the Samsung PN64F8500 as of yet?
Edited by p5browne - 11/14/13 at 9:31pm
post #3757 of 3835

To help other readers, I recently purchased the DVDO iScan Duo, with the latest 2.32 Firmware. I sent it back.

 

While it has many features that may suit some people, there were some aspects which I had been told it was good for, which it wasn't. 

 

Switching takes an eternity. Especially switching HDMI, and that was with HDCP turned on and off. Made no difference, still too long. Even Analogue switching was way too long. Plus it is supposed to be time or frame synched, but when you switch analogue, eg Component, sometimes it distorted the screen during transition, like when you use a non-frame synched switch. I don't believe this is synched. Sometimes when you switch input, it loses the HDMI output for a second or two. Ie doesn't even stay live. Sometimes the output screen goes blue for a second. 

 

I asked before purchasing, and was told the switching was instant. Way wrong. 

 

Note: by instant I presume something less than say half a second. These switching times were more than a second, sometimes 2. In the times when it dropped the output, then even longer.

 

Note: in all cases it eventually worked after each switch, but for this amount of money, and having asked the questions, you expect more.

 

Next thing was the two outputs. If you have them separate, you can only use one at a time. That is hopeless, and many people complained in earlier firmware versions, so the added a feature to output both. But they are at the same resolution. I had asked before buying if both outputs could be on, but set to different resolutions, and was told yes. But not so. So they basically have a 1x2 HDMI box on the output, and it is a waste of time and money.

 

Apart from those things, the other features were good. The zoom, resolution setting all seemed ok, but nothing outstanding.

post #3758 of 3835
Grant I think you are suffering from unrealistic expectations... :-)

Not sure how you are using or wanted to use your Duo... personally I only change inputs perhaps once or twice a night... I may start out with DTV and then switch to BluRay or Xbox and then back to DTV a couple hours later... but I have never noticed the time it takes to switch inputs... I have my Harmony remote programed to make all the changes.

I am sorry the Duo is not going to work for your needs.

I use it to clean up the video signal. The problem I have with the Duo is that for some reason my HTPC will not sync through the Duo. It worked fine on an earlier version of the firmware, but the last few revisions have changed something that prevents my HTPC video from syncing with the Duo.
post #3759 of 3835

Maybe my expectations, but that was the reason I asked before buying. So my expectations are based on the questions and answers before I bought, and not expectations from reading user manuals etc.

 

I am video switching for multi-camera live streaming, and so will switch inputs more than a hundred times a day. I know there are more professional mixers for this type of thing, but they don't have IR, and I need the remote control facility as well.

post #3760 of 3835

I have looked at lots of Production Switchers, but the Remote Control is a necessity, because I am on a camera and need to switch while panning and zooming, so I have the IR on the side of the camera that I am operating, and the switch near by. Also, many Production Switchers have two buses, and you can fade between them, but I am sometimes using 3 cameras. Also, I am up in scaffolding, on roof tops, balconies etc. Its all very well to have the right gear when you have the luxury of a studio, but the real world has different requirements.

 

Btw, I do appreciate any comments or help.

 

I have been sticking with Component Video because I am getting exceptional quality and the fastest switching times. Also, two cameras are feeding their signal back via wireless links which are analogue. These distances are around 600m.

 

Btw, re the advice on the DVDO, it was an online chat, which have a record from the retailer. At the time, he said he was asking the manufacturer, and then replying to my questions. I will advise them of the mistake, but they are a good retailer, so didn't want to post negative messages about them just because one salesman got it wrong. 

post #3761 of 3835
Yes Grant you definitely got some inaccurate data prior to purchase.

I don't think the Duo is even remotely close to the type of switcher you are looking for.

I believe the Duo was intended more for the home theater enthusiast market who are looking for just a bit cleaner picture than is normally delivered from the various TV sources and the ability to tweak their image setting closer to the Rec 709 standard.
post #3762 of 3835
Definitely, the iScan Duo was NOT intended for the purposes that it is trying to be used for. As mentioned, it's for Audio/Video Enthusiasts for their Home Theatre systems, for switching, pattern generation, AutoCalibration, etc.
Us Home Audio/Video people have gotten use to delays, Pink and Purple, and sometimes Blue screens, and all the other oddities of the HDMI Handshaking World. But that's our world.

New Calman Beta 5.2.1 Build # 1386 now available:

http://spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=5065

Issues with Build # 1386 - Continuing Loop for Saturation Uniformity - Pre and Post Calibration

Amazon $599

http://www.amazon.com/DVDO-iScan-Definition-Video-Processor/dp/B002Q8HQHE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385876356&sr=8-2&keywords=lumagen
Edited by p5browne - 12/3/13 at 9:37pm
post #3763 of 3835
Looking to sell my Duo. What is a fair price for one in excellent condition--single owner?

Thanks,
Brian
post #3764 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

Looking to sell my Duo. What is a fair price for one in excellent condition--single owner?

Thanks,
Brian

Amazon was selling them for $599, but have now increased to $699 New.

http://www.amazon.com/DVDO-iScan-Definition-Video-Processor/dp/B002Q8HQHE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385876356&sr=8-2&keywords=lumagen
post #3765 of 3835
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Amazon was selling them for $599, but have now increased to $699 New.

http://www.amazon.com/DVDO-iScan-Definition-Video-Processor/dp/B002Q8HQHE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385876356&sr=8-2&keywords=lumagen

I am being offered $500 through ebay, so ~ $450 with fees. Is that too little? Should I put it up for sale here on the forum?

B.
post #3766 of 3835
That looks like a very good bid!

As a rule of thumb, getting about half of the current price new is pretty fair. If someone is offering you $500 for something they can get new and unopened for $1-200 more, you should take it!
post #3767 of 3835
I accepted it. No point in being greedy. I should have sold it a few months ago I guess. It seems like they are discontinuing it with all those units for sale so cheap on Amazon.

B.
post #3768 of 3835
The DUO has been out a very, very long time. I got mine back in 2009.

During the last twelve years of using video scalers/processors, this is the longest I've ever gone without upgrading. In the past I upgraded every one or two years.
post #3769 of 3835
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

The DUO has been out a very, very long time. I got mine back in 2009.

During the last twelve years of using video scalers/processors, this is the longest I've ever gone without upgrading. In the past I upgraded every one or two years.

I came to the Duo from an Edge. The Duo suits my needs very well, especially since I don't have a fancy system. A lot of pieces, but not fancy. When my PRO-111FD plasma was touched up recently, I had the ISF settings put on all the HDMI inputs, in case I need to send out my Duo for repair or part ways with it. A good little unit, overall. I can't see going to a Lumagen (unless there was a radical change in my system necessitating such a thing and the money was available), so this will be it in all likelihood as far as processors.
post #3770 of 3835
Even as old as it is, the Duo is still a fantastic bargain considering its CMS capabilities. I only wish it had a better comb filter for composite sources, but that's a pretty minor complaint.
post #3771 of 3835
new ChromaPure 2.4.5 now available:

http://chromapure.com/news.asp
post #3772 of 3835
Can someone tell me where the DUO is located in the Logitech data base so I can program it into my Harmony One? I find the Edge, but no DUO and the only thing I see for Simplay is an HDMI switch.
post #3773 of 3835
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Originally Posted by lorjam View Post

Can someone tell me where the DUO is located in the Logitech data base so I can program it into my Harmony One? I find the Edge, but no DUO and the only thing I see for Simplay is an HDMI switch.

FYI, you can download the IR discrete codes here (see Automation tab).
post #3774 of 3835
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Originally Posted by lorjam View Post

Can someone tell me where the DUO is located in the Logitech data base so I can program it into my Harmony One? I find the Edge, but no DUO and the only thing I see for Simplay is an HDMI switch.

Is it not listed under DVDO, and not Simplay?
post #3775 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

Is it not listed under DVDO, and not Simplay?

Edge is example for DVDO, but no Duo. I'll just have to enter it manually, I guess. Just takes longer.
post #3776 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

Is it not listed under DVDO, and not Simplay?

You should be able to find the harmony code for the Duo under the Device (Audio/Video Switch), Manufacturer (DVDO), Model (ISCAN DUO). Hope this helps.
post #3777 of 3835
Thanks for the responses regarding the Harmony. Is anyone running a Darbee enhanced signal through the Duo with no problems? I'm thinking of getting an Oppo 103D to feed my two displays.
post #3778 of 3835
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Originally Posted by lorjam View Post

Thanks for the responses regarding the Harmony. Is anyone running a Darbee enhanced signal through the Duo with no problems? I'm thinking of getting an Oppo 103D to feed my two displays.

Darbee is between the TV and the Duo with no issues, and wife says her cartoons look clearer now.
Put the Halite on mine. One step up from the Darbee. Again it's between my TV and the Radiance XE-3D.
post #3779 of 3835
Thanks. I was looking to run the 103D(Darbee)>>>Duo>>>2 displays. You are Duo>>>Darbee(Darblet?)>>>display. I need the Darbee processing before the Duo in order to feed the two displays with Darbee, but if the Duo defeats Darbee when I use the CMS in the Duo then I will just keep the Oppo 93 feeding the Duo.
post #3780 of 3835
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Originally Posted by lorjam View Post

Thanks. I was looking to run the 103D(Darbee)>>>Duo>>>2 displays. You are Duo>>>Darbee(Darblet?)>>>display. I need the Darbee processing before the Duo in order to feed the two displays with Darbee, but if the Duo defeats Darbee when I use the CMS in the Duo then I will just keep the Oppo 93 feeding the Duo.

And where are all your Inputs, are they not in the Duo? Solution, buy a Halite, if there's any left, or another Darbee to feed the other Video Display.
Edited by p5browne - 12/27/13 at 9:41pm
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