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double pop all zombies in the head
post #362 of 426
A little late into your HVAC discussion, but have you looked into the Arzel zoning system? I respect snickel's knowledge and trade, but we had the Arzel zoning system installed almost a year ago and have had nothing but good things to say about it. In the winter our second floor would be COLD. We used to have about a 10 degree difference in temps between upstairs and downstairs in the winter. Not anymore, now both the main floor and upstairs feel the same. Our electricity bill was actually less this year as we only ran the A/C for the second floor. The returns on the first floor still pulled some of that cool air down from the second floor so it kept it between 77-78 all the time. Another nice bonus.

We went through Builders Heating and Air for our system and ran right at $6300 installed for three zones. Basically each floor has their own thermostat now which controls the 13 dampers in each of the supply lines located just after the trunk, and one bypass in the return to dump excess pressure in the supply trunk from damaging the fan unit.

In our house the builders installed the supply lines in the exterior walls of the house to the second floor so we already had that against us. Short of tearing down drywall and redoing everything, this was the best option for us. A second furnace and A/C unit just for upstairs was going to be crazy expensive....even though that is what should've been done for our house from the beginning. I did go through and retape all of the seams and put that putty stuff on everything else on the trunk to try and combat leakage on all the lines in the basement.

Just a thought if you are still trying to figure out what to do. Hope this helps.
Bob
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

And 4,5,6.............

Sorry couldn't resist. This coming from a guy who has procrastination basically in his thread title and who's build thread started 6-14-07.

It's all good!

Regards,

RTROSE

I got you beat - I created my build thread on 9-13-06 - then went away and hid for a couple years, and had to create a new build thread when I actually started building, because my old thread had been archived.
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Originally Posted by Bobmyster View Post

A little late into your HVAC discussion, but have you looked into the Arzel zoning system? I respect snickel's knowledge and trade, but we had the Arzel zoning system installed almost a year ago and have had nothing but good things to say about it. In the winter our second floor would be COLD. We used to have about a 10 degree difference in temps between upstairs and downstairs in the winter. Not anymore, now both the main floor and upstairs feel the same. Our electricity bill was actually less this year as we only ran the A/C for the second floor. The returns on the first floor still pulled some of that cool air down from the second floor so it kept it between 77-78 all the time. Another nice bonus.

We went through Builders Heating and Air for our system and ran right at $6300 installed for three zones. Basically each floor has their own thermostat now which controls the 13 dampers in each of the supply lines located just after the trunk, and one bypass in the return to dump excess pressure in the supply trunk from damaging the fan unit.

In our house the builders installed the supply lines in the exterior walls of the house to the second floor so we already had that against us. Short of tearing down drywall and redoing everything, this was the best option for us. A second furnace and A/C unit just for upstairs was going to be crazy expensive....even though that is what should've been done for our house from the beginning. I did go through and retape all of the seams and put that putty stuff on everything else on the trunk to try and combat leakage on all the lines in the basement.

Just a thought if you are still trying to figure out what to do. Hope this helps.
Bob

Thanks for all the info. I haven't done anything yet so it is good for perspective to hear that someone is happy with their retrofit zone system.

Once the dust settles in my life (you know, ashes to ashes, dust to dust and all that) I'll get back to the build. I'm guessing that won't happen for a month or two. I don't have time right now to supervise, and I'm definitely hiring out most of the rest of the build.
post #365 of 426
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Well, in anticipation of the new year I ventured into the depths of the basement and gave it a good clean-up: tools put away, sawdust swept up, light bulbs replaced, etc. I'd love to finish by my two year anniversary (Nov 2011), but am in no rush.

The holidays were a little rough without my mom, but she'd want me to finish what I started. So, perhaps at some point in the future you'll see some actual progress here.

post #366 of 426
Ah yes, I have fond memories of wishing I would finish by my two year anniversary ... WTF was I thinking?!? Now I'll just settle for finishing ... eventually.

Those first few big family events after losing a parent are tough. If it's any consolation, it does get easier with time.

Keep your dobber up, Zen Master. Brighter days ahead!
post #367 of 426
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Ah yes, I have fond memories of wishing I would finish by my two year anniversary ... WTF was I thinking?!? Now I'll just settle for finishing ... eventually.

Well, it didn't help that my cousin (the house flipper) and buddy from high school (Master Electrician) couldn't stop laughing during the tour of progress in October. Luckily they both offered their time.

So, how far down does the WAF go when I say that instead of taking her to Italy in the spring I've decided to accelerate the basement finishing?
post #368 of 426
What's the rush?

The path is the way.

Small mind, big work. Big mind, no work - all fun.

I recently added the author's name to the quote in my signature.
post #369 of 426
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Well, it didn't help that my cousin (the house flipper) and buddy from high school (Master Electrician) couldn't stop laughing during the tour of progress in October. Luckily they both offered their time.

So, how far down does the WAF go when I say that instead of taking her to Italy in the spring I've decided to accelerate the basement finishing?


Let me know when you're going to deliver this news, and I'll gladly come over to wake you from your unconscious state after the beating is done.

Oh, and remember Confucius say,

"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." (Regarding the "Professionals" in your family rating your work).


Regards,

RTROSE
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So, how far down does the WAF go when I say that instead of taking her to Italy in the spring I've decided to accelerate the basement finishing?

I'm sure your bride will respond favorably to that idea.



And then for your anniversary make sure to get her a dual bag vacuum cleaner! Worked for me!

post #371 of 426
Audixium, I am at 2 years 4 months...

I sense a disturbance in the force, and the wife is getting tired of the construction...
post #372 of 426
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Originally Posted by Neurorad View Post
What's the rush?

The path is the way.
I'm with ya' but the family is not!


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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post
Let me know when you're going to deliver this news, and I'll gladly come over to wake you from your unconscious state after the beating is done.

Oh, and remember Confucius say,

"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." (Regarding the "Professionals" in your family rating your work).


Regards,

RTROSE
So I'm guessing my wife saw the email notification of your reply on the iPad yesterday (along with my quote about Italy), because soon after that...Hanes predicted the future:


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I'm sure your bride will respond favorably to that idea.



And then for your anniversary make sure to get her a dual bag vacuum cleaner! Worked for me!

I'm not going to be drawing any lines in the sand between Italy and my (um, our) basement. But that $$ in savings is begging to be handed over to men who REALLY know what they're doing. Learning from the video, perhaps I could suggest jewelry instead of Italy - and keep the excessive change?


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Audixium, I am at 2 years 4 months...

I sense a disturbance in the force, and the wife is getting tired of the construction...
Maybe I could approach it like this:

"In another year do you want to be tired of construction...or...relaxing on the French Riviera after spending a week in Italy, all knowing the basement was done by professionals?"

I guess I'll continue to be the turtle. Wait, that would require actual movement.

Oh, and Michael, a group of us are doing the Warrior Dash this year. Did you train at all?
post #373 of 426
prepare to have a blast... I ran around the neighborhood. I would go 3 miles non stop, and I only took the stairs at work for the last month before the dash, not near enough... That altitude is killer!!!

Only 1 guy from our group ran the whole thing without stopping.

Here is the recommended training regiment from the warrior dash page:

How do I train for Warrior Dash?

1. Day one: run as far as you can. Go home.
2. Day two: do the same thing.
3. Find the dirtiest pond in your neighborhood and snorkel in it - in your slippers, without goggles.
4. Practice your climbing and crawling skills at your local jungle gym. Ignore the small children and parental glares.
5. Do not shower or shave for weeks in order to obtain a true Warrior look.

Seriously though, your best bet is to do plenty of running leading up to the race.
post #374 of 426
Well,

Anything noteworthy going on. Been awhile since an update has happened.

Regards,

RTROSE
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RTROSE - nothing...nada...zilch. My focus was diverted by a new venture. Plus, we leave in two weeks for Italy (Rome, Tuscany, Cinque Terre, and Milan). I feel like I'm bleeding money...the money that should be paying people to finish the basement.

I will get back at it, but of course the wife started emailing me pictures on how we should redo the backyard... :-/

On a side note, this AVS app for the iPad is pretty cool!
post #376 of 426
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Originally Posted by Audixium View Post

RTROSE - nothing...nada...zilch. My focus was diverted by a new venture. Plus, we leave in two weeks for Italy (Rome, Tuscany, Cinque Terre, and Milan). I feel like I'm bleeding money...the money that should be paying people to finish the basement.

I will get back at it, but of course the wife started emailing me pictures on how we should redo the backyard... :-/

On a side note, this AVS app for the iPad is pretty cool!

Sounds like a great trip. Enjoy your travels!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #377 of 426
Zen Master,

I'm way too in tune with the Universe to inquire about any HT progress, but how was your vacation to Italy? One of my favorite places!

I was thinking of you the other day while perusing another build that, with total disregard to the feelings of folks like you and me, is actually approaching completion. I don't know how some people can be so insensitive!

Where was I?

Ah yes - this particular build is looking so Zen-like in it's elegance and simplicity that I thought of you. You have to check out this build, as I think you would appreciate it. Here's a link to Brad's build.

Don't forget the Italy update!

Ciao!
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

Zen Master,

I'm way too in tune with the Universe to inquire about any HT progress, but how was your vacation to Italy? One of my favorite places!

I was thinking of you the other day while perusing another build that, with total disregard to the feelings of folks like you and me, is actually approaching completion. I don't know how some people can be so insensitive!

Where was I?

Ah yes - this particular build is looking so Zen-like in it's elegance and simplicity that I thought of you. You have to check out this build, as I think you would appreciate it. Here's a link to Brad's build.

Don't forget the Italy update!

Ciao!

Italy was astounding! One couple that went with us has decided to move there by 11/11/11. I'll share a few pics and stories shortly.

That build is sweet! (showing my age)

I'm off working on a new venture and have diverted all my attention to that. I'll come back to AVS when I can - hopefully with completion pics.
post #379 of 426
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Italy was astounding! One couple that went with us has decided to move there by 11/11/11. I'll share a few pics and stories shortly.

That build is sweet! (showing my age)

I'm off working on a new venture and have diverted all my attention to that. I'll come back to AVS when I can - hopefully with completion pics.

Oh come now. A teaser like that and no follow up on what that new venture might be. Cruel and unusual punishment for sure.

Regards,

RTROSE
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I'm off working on a new venture and have diverted all my attention to that. I'll come back to AVS when I can - hopefully with completion pics.

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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Oh come now. A teaser like that and no follow up on what that new venture might be. Cruel and unusual punishment for sure.

I agree, it is most un-zen like to tease us like that.
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Oh come now. A teaser like that and no follow up on what that new venture might be. Cruel and unusual punishment for sure.

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Originally Posted by BeerParty View Post

I agree, it is most un-zen like to tease us like that.

Grasshoppers, be still and enjoy the silence.
post #382 of 426
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Oh come now. A teaser like that and no follow up on what that new venture might be. Cruel and unusual punishment for sure.

A multiplex.... the original plan wasn't ambitious enough
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A multiplex.... the original plan wasn't ambitious enough

Ok, ok, ok.

I'm designing the first DIY Home Holodek kit...including an opensource marketplace for developers to sell their um, "Home Plays".
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Grasshopper 1 being still and enjoying the silence. Now moving on to more active Zen pursuits.



Your Italy travel buddies still on track for their self-imposed 11/11/11 move deadline?
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Grasshopper 1 being still and enjoying the silence. Now moving on to more active Zen pursuits.

I never did understand why on earth people tried to solve those crossword things...

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Your Italy travel buddies still on track for their self-imposed 11/11/11 move deadline?
Well the one who made that commitment met a woman from England and probably will end up living there first...delaying his Italianation.
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Talk about religious discrimination! I've never been accused of such things...
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I've been busy this year, perfecting my form for the Warrior Dash. See...this is at the end of a 5k, at 9700 feet above sea level, a ton of obstacles, AAANNNDDD a belly flop into a big mud pool. And then this #$%#^ flame tries to give me, cue Nat King Cole, [insert your own] "roasting on an open fire":



"I believe I can fly"...
post #389 of 426
Yeah. Busy.

With those ladies chasing you, it reminds me of this Meaning of Life scene, where the accused gets to choose his method of death.

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Originally Posted by Audixium View Post

I've been busy this year, perfecting my form for the Warrior Dash. See...this is at the end of a 5k, at 9700 feet above sea level, a ton of obstacles, AAANNNDDD a belly flop into a big mud pool. And then this #$%#^ flame tries to give me, cue Nat King Cole, [insert your own] "roasting on an open fire":



"I believe I can fly"...

Hey there Audixium, i tried to send you a pm but your pm box is full. Can you clear it out so i can ask you a question real quick? Thanks man.
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