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What are you guys doing with ur blu rays? 1:1 or compressing?

post #1 of 47
9/17/09 at 4:42pm
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I am curious what most of you guys are doing with your rip BD's. It seems to me that it would be easier to rip it and leave it 1:1 rather than compress and hope it doesn't affect video/audio quality that much. Also curious what the majority are using for rip/play. I plan to rip my DVD collection (75) movies and (20) BD's to my HDD and then play them back through WMC. I was looking at XBMC and liked the way the interface looked. I am trying to keep this process as easy as possible due to the fact that I am really a noob that is learning on the fly. I am starting with a 2TB drive but plan on expanding to 5TB or more.
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post #2 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:02pm
1:1. I don't even bother removing extra tracks or features although I'm starting to rethink that part.
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post #3 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

1:1. I don't even bother removing extra tracks or features although I'm starting to rethink that part.


It just seems easier to load up on HDD space and not have to worry about compressing and cutting out the extras from the movies....
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post #4 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:09pm
That's basically why I hadn't bothered. I'm considering converting all HD audio tracks to multichannel LPCM though and I'm thinking that while I do that, I may as well get rid of some fluff that I just never watch anyway. I haven't totally convinced myself though, hard drive space is cheap.
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post #5 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:13pm
i'm still a n00b. only a few months in.

1:1 and rip the movie only for DVD and BD (iso).

IMO The simplest interfaces to use are Mymovies (not bad looking) & Mediabrowser (sexier). I usually just use mymovies as the back end.

Rip with AnydvdHD & clownBD. Dvdfab is pretty easy too but you still need Anydvd.
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post #6 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

That's basically why I hadn't bothered. I'm considering converting all HD audio tracks to multichannel LPCM though and I'm thinking that while I do that, I may as well get rid of some fluff that I just never watch anyway. I haven't totally convinced myself though, hard drive space is cheap.

Why would you be converting the audio?? The other thing is I have been reading that all the encoding takes all of CPU power and a ton of time.... It seems like a waste, especially like you said HDD memory is very reasonable. I want my HTPC to be as user friendly as possible . A TB is what $100, I would rather spend the $300 extra to get to 5TB rather than struggle with all the filtering... I guess it all comes down to what your comfortable with, maybe when I get to using this thing for awhile I will tread those waters.. Although hearing quad cores maxing out while encoding is concerning lol..
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post #7 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:17pm
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That's basically why I hadn't bothered. I'm considering converting all HD audio tracks to multichannel LPCM though and I'm thinking that while I do that, I may as well get rid of some fluff that I just never watch anyway. I haven't totally convinced myself though, hard drive space is cheap.

If you follow one or more of the 'better than good deals' web forums** 1TB drives are regularly falling below the $100 mark and even 1.5TB are swimming in the $140s I somehow think that trend will only become more and more frequent as 2.5TB being their assault on the storage market.

2.5TB drives are predicted to roll out sometime in early 2010 (or late 09 if you're overly optimistic).

Dave

** There are a number of these deal forums but I'll leave it an excersie of the reader to find them since as far as I know none are supporters of AVS and shouldn't get linked to directly.
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post #8 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by wizzack View Post

i'm still a n00b. only a few months in.

1:1 and rip the movie only for DVD and BD (iso).

IMO The simplest interfaces to use are Mymovies (not bad looking) & Mediabrowser (sexier). I usually just use mymovies as the back end.

Rip with AnydvdHD & clownBD. Dvdfab is pretty easy too but you still need Anydvd.

Appreciate the input!
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post #9 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:24pm
I do 1:1 ISO rips of the entire discs, and store them in three 1.5TB drives configured as an external JBOD array with port multiplier. Hot swapping allows me to easily move drives in-and-out for when more storage is needed.

The funny thing is that I still watch the actual discs on my PS3.
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post #10 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by MSmith83 View Post

I do 1:1 ISO rips of the entire discs, and store them in three 1.5TB drives configured as an external JBOD array with port multiplier. Hot swapping allows me to easily move drives in-and-out for when more storage is needed.

The funny thing is that I still watch the actual discs on my PS3.

Cool, what are you ripping with though?? Are you playing through the HTPC at all? If so with what?
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post #11 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:34pm
1:1...no question. I didn't pay a premium for my Blu-ray movies only to hack them apart and decrease the quality, LOL! Seems counterintuative to me....
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post #12 of 47
9/17/09 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by Favelle View Post

1:1...no question. I didn't pay a premium for my Blu-ray movies only to hack them apart and decrease the quality, LOL! Seems counterintuative to me....


I never would have thought any different but with all the reading I have been doing it seems alot of people are doing just that. I want to try and equal the experience I get with my Oppo BD with my HTPC. I will hack them to my ipod but I want a movie experience from my PC .
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post #13 of 47
9/17/09 at 6:21pm
Converted to MKV, video untouched, with the highest quality audio track converted to FLAC, and subtitles added only if needed.
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post #14 of 47
9/17/09 at 7:05pm
I don't have Bluray but I used to rip my dvd's to avi (and then mkv) because I got real tired of the initial 'FBI warning' screens, having to watch the intros, the menu's etc. 99% of the time I just want to watch the movie. I'd do the same with BR excep no transcoding, getting a single mkv container just appeals to me.
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post #15 of 47
9/17/09 at 7:09pm
Untouched. I use MyMovies to rip them automagically on my WHS. I have 7 or so Terabytes on the server, and still have three terabytes to fill up. Will just add more drives when I do.
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post #16 of 47
9/17/09 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by Ascen5sion View Post

Why would you be converting the audio?? The other thing is I have been reading that all the encoding takes all of CPU power and a ton of time.... It seems like a waste, especially like you said HDD memory is very reasonable. I want my HTPC to be as user friendly as possible . A TB is what $100, I would rather spend the $300 extra to get to 5TB rather than struggle with all the filtering... I guess it all comes down to what your comfortable with, maybe when I get to using this thing for awhile I will tread those waters.. Although hearing quad cores maxing out while encoding is concerning lol..

I won't be converting audio to save space. I would only be converting the audio for DTS-HD tracks (which I can't decode) so that I can get full bitrate HD audio. I could convert to flac audio in an mkv but I prefer to keep m2ts files, so I would use LPCM keeping the same audio quality. TrueHD would not need to be converted since MPC and ffdshow can decode TrueHD. Converting DTS-HD to LPCM does not take very much time and would not tax my CPU. I would also only bother to do this on movies where I care about the audio quality. A movie like "Camille", I would not bother.
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post #17 of 47
9/18/09 at 12:57am
I've been stripping all extra features basically making a movie with all English audio tracks and subtitles. The video and audio are all 1:1. Every time I think of just doing full backups, I stop and realize that I NEVER actually want to watch special features. I guess it's just not for me.
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post #18 of 47
9/18/09 at 6:05am
1:1 with just the movie, best audio track and english subs, stored as an iso. clown bd makes it super easy. I have been shocked at how much extra crap is on some bds (20+ gb!).
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post #19 of 47
9/18/09 at 6:11am
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Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

Converted to MKV, video untouched, with the highest quality audio track converted to FLAC, and subtitles added only if needed.

Same here, usually add an AC3 track as well since the popcorn device (use a HTPC for the PJ) can't play flac from a video file (mkv).
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post #20 of 47
9/18/09 at 8:08am
Anyone ripped Underworld Rise of the Lycans and how did you handle the audio? I ripped it with anydvd and used TXMuxer to get rid of the extra audio tracks and video. However, on my XBMC media server the audio is all messed up with either a failure to initialize audio hardware or the sound cuts in and out.
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post #21 of 47
9/18/09 at 8:21am
1:1 ripped with anydvd to iso. Server with JOBD. Used to use raid but I am changing out my 300gb discs to 1tb+(I needed more space). I use an AMCC 12 port sata raid card in my server that supports 14 drives. I have over 600 Blu-Ray, HDDVD, and DVD discs. I manage the collection with DVD Profiler, use xLobby as my front end, and TMT3 as my player (switched from PDVD 9 recently), virtual clone drive for mounting the iso's. I have upgraded my hardware so it is HD compliant so I no longer have to run anydvdhd while playing the movies.
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post #22 of 47
9/18/09 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by Ascen5sion View Post

Cool, what are you ripping with though?? Are you playing through the HTPC at all? If so with what?

I use AnyDVD HD for ripping.

I have tried the trial versions of PowerDVD 9 Ultra and TMT 3, and neither really gave me what I want. There always seemed to be a missing feature I wanted or a quirky operation.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I rip the entire discs because I really like the complete Blu-ray experience with menus and unique extra features. I will continue to use my PS3 for viewing until playback software on the PC is up to my standards.
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post #23 of 47
9/18/09 at 8:39am
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If you follow one or more of the 'better than good deals' web forums** 1TB drives are regularly falling below the $100 mark and even 1.5TB are swimming in the $140s I somehow think that trend will only become more and more frequent as 2.5TB being their assault on the storage market.

The $140 is actually high, grab a seagate 1.5tb on newegg for $120, shipped free. or two samsung 1.5tb's for $200

microcenter has seagate 1.5tb for $115 and samsung 1.5tb for $100!

I check prices myself at least 3 times a day..lol

Absolutely love storage and technology, prices constantly fall

This was the sole basis of my argument with some over 1:1 and compressing it.

I do 1:1, use anydvd, clown_bd, powerdvd and mymovies, salami organizer, virtual clone drive. My collection for bd's is getting high, 3 tb's isn't going to do it for long.

All you need.
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post #24 of 47
9/18/09 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by MSmith83 View Post

I use AnyDVD HD for ripping.

I have tried the trial versions of PowerDVD 9 Ultra and TMT 3, and neither really gave me what I want. There always seemed to be a missing feature I wanted or a quirky operation.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I rip the entire discs because I really like the complete Blu-ray experience with menus and unique extra features. I will continue to use my PS3 for viewing until playback software on the PC is up to my standards.

I am with ya! Like I said before it seems easier to just rip it 1:1 and prepare for more HDD space... Seems like alot of extra work to trim the fat....
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post #25 of 47
9/18/09 at 6:36pm
AnyDVD-HD for ripping. I remux back and forth different containers depending on the application. It should be a crime to ruin the original quality of a bluray movie by trying t compress it more than it already it. I wont touch media that was ruined by downgrading the bitrate edit: Of course, cable HDTV is a different story.
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post #26 of 47
9/18/09 at 6:43pm
I rip 1:1 into ISO with AnyDVD HD. Playback is with Win7 MC with TMT3 and MyMovies. MyMovies 3 releases on Oct. 22 for the general public (alongside Win7) and the media center UI is much, much better and faster than MyMovies 2 - more along the lines of Media Browser.
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post #27 of 47
9/18/09 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by hbomber202020 View Post

The $140 is actually high, grab a seagate 1.5tb on newegg for $120, shipped free. or two samsung 1.5tb's for $200

microcenter has seagate 1.5tb for $115 and samsung 1.5tb for $100!

I check prices myself at least 3 times a day..lol

Absolutely love storage and technology, prices constantly fall

This was the sole basis of my argument with some over 1:1 and compressing it.

I do 1:1, use anydvd, clown_bd, powerdvd and mymovies, salami organizer, virtual clone drive. My collection for bd's is getting high, 3 tb's isn't going to do it for long.

All you need.

Hell yah I just got a seagate 1.5tb at frys for 104.99 Sick price!
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post #28 of 47
9/18/09 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

Converted to MKV, video untouched, with the highest quality audio track converted to FLAC, and subtitles added only if needed.

Same here...Space saving is my main reason, but simplicity is also a plus...I never made one? I just started using Media Browser...It's very slick and
I can fit around 70-80 HD-Movies 1080p/24 full resolution video with lossless audio on a single 1.5 TB Hard drive…How many ISO can you fit?, I really don’t know…I never made one.

I very seldom watch the extras and if I do, I can use the original disk. I really despise having to use the menus and sit thru 10 minutes of crap waiting for the movie to start. It would be one thing if they mixed up the trailers but most disk seem to use the same one all the time…It seems like every Disney/Pixar flix has the same lame trailer, you know the one with Johnny Dep from Pirate of the Caribbean and Tinkerbelle.

Mike
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post #29 of 47
9/18/09 at 7:42pm
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Hell yah I just got a seagate 1.5tb at frys for 104.99 Sick price!

Nice work...I'm jealous...Wish I could pull the string on the sammy 1.5tb for $100
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post #30 of 47
9/18/09 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by MikeEby View Post

Same here...Space saving is my main reason, but simplicity is also a plus...I never made one? I just started using Media Browser...It's very slick and
I can fit around 70-80 HD-Movies 1080p/24 full resolution video with lossless audio on a single 1.5 TB Hard driveHow many ISO can you fit?, I really don't knowI never made one.

I very seldom watch the extras and if I do, I can use the original disk. I really despise having to use the menus and sit thru 10 minutes of crap waiting for the movie to start. It would be one thing if they mixed up the trailers but most disk seem to use the same one all the timeIt seems like every Disney/Pixar flix has the same lame trailer, you know the one with Johnny Dep from Pirate of the Caribbean and Tinkerbelle.

Mike

I never got into mkv's really, just no reason for me for or against. For my blu's just keep the structure intact into iso's. On a 1.5tb all iso's just main movies, I fit 57 movies. Actual size 1360 / 57..Roughly 24gb a movie...Like you keep it all intact, strip it down...Never understood trailers or extra's either, could care less about bd live.. I have comps for that. Just give me the damn movie. I don't have an ipod either, never have or will.
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