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post #31 of 169
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Nice links Tornini! I took a guess, and this link also works for the YSP-4100:

http://www.ecranlounge.com/pdf/YSP_4100_FICHE.pdf

As far as I can tell, the only difference between the YSP-4100 and YSP-5100 is the length and weight!

YSP-4100 length: 40.55" 1030mm
YSP-5100 length: 47.24" 1200mm

YSP-4100 weight: 22.05lbs 10kg
YSP-5100 weight: 24.25lbs 11kg

Oh and of course the price, 1400 Euros vs 1600 Euros.

Maybe different lengths to match different TV sizes?
post #32 of 169
I also saw the word "option" in the air-wired section for the 4100 vs the 5100.
post #33 of 169
Do you think prices in US will be equivalent to Euro or slightly less?

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Originally Posted by imabanana View Post

Nice links Tornini! I took a guess, and this link also works for the YSP-4100:

http://www.ecranlounge.com/pdf/YSP_4100_FICHE.pdf

As far as I can tell, the only difference between the YSP-4100 and YSP-5100 is the length and weight!

YSP-4100 length: 40.55" 1030mm
YSP-5100 length: 47.24" 1200mm

YSP-4100 weight: 22.05lbs 10kg
YSP-5100 weight: 24.25lbs 11kg

Oh and of course the price, 1400 Euros vs 1600 Euros.

Maybe different lengths to match different TV sizes?
post #34 of 169
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Originally Posted by Jithtproject View Post

Do you think prices in US will be equivalent to Euro or slightly less?

Less, for sure.
post #35 of 169
I'll be replacing my YSP-1 with this that I got way back in 2005. I've been waiting for these features for awhile now to upgrade. It beats spending around $5k on 5 channel Paradigm/Denon receiver set I was looking at before
post #36 of 169
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Originally Posted by MUGEN View Post

I'll be replacing my YSP-1 with this that I got way back in 2005. I've been waiting for these features for awhile now to upgrade. It beats spending around $5k on 5 channel Paradigm/Denon receiver set I was looking at before

Yep, it sure pays to hang back and see what happens.I must have changed my mind a dozen times due to the fact that i seemed to feel the need to have the latest formats.Now i am glad that i waited. Yamaha tend to make some fine audio equipment.I would say you will notice a big difference with this new ysp.
post #37 of 169
I guess I will have to cancel my plan to buy sony 500 & go for Yamaha 4100 or 5100.
post #38 of 169
I looked around to find what the 5100 has over the 4100 and all the french AV sites just show it's just a little longer and nothing else. Both are coming out in NOV for europe just like in japan.

Beams from that PDF


Yamaha demonstrating the 4100-silver. Notice the $13k B&W speaker just moved out of the way
http://bbs.newhivi.com/redirect.php?...&goto=lastpost
post #39 of 169
Well here's hoping the 4100 price isn't too steep, and if it is that it at least starts knocking down the 4000 prices.
post #40 of 169
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Originally Posted by MUGEN View Post

I looked around to find what the 5100 has over the 4100 and all the french AV sites just show it's just a little longer and nothing else. Both are coming out in NOV for europe just like in japan.

Beams from that PDF


Yamaha demonstrating the 4100-silver. Notice the $13k B&W speaker just moved out of the way
http://bbs.newhivi.com/redirect.php?...&goto=lastpost

What the heck? They are using the 2 additional wireless speakers as side speakers and not rears?!? That just makes no sense to me. I have read tons of reviews of YSPs that say the surround can get "almost" to the rear, but still not provide discrete rears in the way a 5.1 system can. Now they deliver a system that gives the option of 2 wireless surround speakers, and they use them for the side, somewhere the YSP can already easily get coverage to. I don't understand this.
post #41 of 169
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Originally Posted by frostylou View Post

Pete,
There is no question all the HD codecs( PCM, Dolby True, DTS -ma) are fantastic. They DO sound significantly better then a standard Dolby on
a reg DVD and
I believe 'most' people can hear a difference.
My point was that one is getting a high bit rate of 1.5 Mbps core
on any dts- ma blu Ray disc. One should keep in mind when
1. Movie theater DTS came into being it was 1.5 or about
2. Certain laser discs had a 1.5 dts bitrate and Digital Theater tapes had
1.5 DTS . Also certain early DVDs(Ants, Waterworld, Twister).

All of the above was really considered awesome and the
holy Grail for
movie audio and that one coudnt ask for much better.


One now gets that on most blu Ray discs now that Blu Ray has really moved
to DTS ma far more then Dobly True. And my point is that the 1.5mbps has been shown to be 'pretty much' it's full uncompressed equal sound wise.

frostylou, I finally got around to reading that article you posted. It said that even in these perfect rooms with the best gear available, the difference between the old lossy Dolby Digital and the new lossless codecs is barely noticable. That says a lot. Even if you run the bare bones Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack you probably will not see a difference between that and Dolby True, according to this. They said that was the biggest surprise of their testing. That held true for both Dolby and DTS:

"The shocker came when we compared the lower 448 kbps Dolby Digital DVD bitrate to the original. There was an audible difference, but it was only ever-so-slightly noticeable (and this is with a high end audio system in an acoustically controlled environment that is so far beyond what typical home theater systems are capable of resolving)."
post #42 of 169
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Originally Posted by Pete C View Post

What the heck? They are using the 2 additional wireless speakers as side speakers and not rears?!? That just makes no sense to me. I have read tons of reviews of YSPs that say the surround can get "almost" to the rear, but still not provide discrete rears in the way a 5.1 system can. Now they deliver a system that gives the option of 2 wireless surround speakers, and they use them for the side, somewhere the YSP can already easily get coverage to. I don't understand this.

Can't you use those 2 side speakers as rear speakers? Just a question. ( I mean placementwise).
post #43 of 169
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Originally Posted by Pete C View Post

What the heck? They are using the 2 additional wireless speakers as side speakers and not rears?!? That just makes no sense to me. I have read tons of reviews of YSPs that say the surround can get "almost" to the rear, but still not provide discrete rears in the way a 5.1 system can. Now they deliver a system that gives the option of 2 wireless surround speakers, and they use them for the side, somewhere the YSP can already easily get coverage to. I don't understand this.

From looking at the press release and the YSP-4100 product page I see no optional speakers for it except the sub woofer. All 7 channels are coming from the YSP-4100.


Japanese YSP-4100 manual.
http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/...YSP-4100_J.pdf
post #44 of 169
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Originally Posted by MUGEN View Post

From looking at the press release and the YSP-4100 product page I see no optional speakers for it except the sub woofer. All 7 channels are coming from the YSP-4100.


Japanese YSP-4100 manual.
http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/...YSP-4100_J.pdf

Check out the diagram called '5-beam + 2'...you will see speakers 6 and 7 floating there. Those sound sources are separate from the YSP in that diagram, and in the press release there is also mention of an AirWired system.
post #45 of 169
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Originally Posted by Pete C View Post

Check out the diagram called '5-beam + 2'...you will see speakers 6 and 7 floating there. Those sound sources are separate from the YSP in that diagram, and in the press release there is also mention of an AirWired system.

They only show Airwired as ipod and wireless sub woofer support.
post #46 of 169
Don't you find that diagram confusing then? Why are audio sources 6 and 7 not coming from the YSP?
post #47 of 169
Any launch date / pricing update for US?
I was hoping to see a user review of 4100 before deciding on my next steps.
post #48 of 169
...and then there's the "do I wait for Black Friday" question
post #49 of 169
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Originally Posted by huskylord View Post

...and then there's the "do I wait for Black Friday" question

I don't think you will see too many deals on a unique item like a YSP on black friday.
post #50 of 169
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Originally Posted by imabanana View Post

Nice links Tornini! I took a guess, and this link also works for the YSP-4100:

http://www.ecranlounge.com/pdf/YSP_4100_FICHE.pdf

As far as I can tell, the only difference between the YSP-4100 and YSP-5100 is the length and weight!

YSP-4100 length: 40.55" 1030mm
YSP-5100 length: 47.24" 1200mm

YSP-4100 weight: 22.05lbs 10kg
YSP-5100 weight: 24.25lbs 11kg

Oh and of course the price, 1400 Euros vs 1600 Euros.

Maybe different lengths to match different TV sizes?

This place (in France) has them listed for $1300 and $1500 Euro; respectively
http://www.pc-infopratique.com/prix-...100-black.html
post #51 of 169
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Originally Posted by huskylord View Post

This place (in France) has them listed for $1300 and $1500 Euro; respectively
http://www.pc-infopratique.com/prix-...100-black.html

How much do they charge for shipping?
post #52 of 169
argh, i hate when companies announce products that don't come out for 3-4 more months.
post #53 of 169
We do not have any information on that model right.



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The Yamaha Customer Support Team
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Can you tell me the time frame for the release of the Yamaha YSP-4100 for the United States?
post #54 of 169
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Originally Posted by foxdie View Post

We do not have any information on that model right.



Best Regards,
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Can you tell me the time frame for the release of the Yamaha YSP-4100 for the United States?

I got the same answer a month ago
post #55 of 169
Nobody seems to know, when this one is coming to US.
post #56 of 169
I just bought the YSP-4000 gonna pair it up with my Sammy pn58b560.
Is the 4000 a good First sound bar...Im a soundbar virgin.
post #57 of 169
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Originally Posted by Chrys7 View Post

I just bought the YSP-4000 gonna pair it up with my Sammy pn58b560.
Is the 4000 a good First sound bar...Im a soundbar virgin.

Congratulations. Enjoy.
post #58 of 169
Thx shopping for a sub under $500 anyone got suggestions?
post #59 of 169
http://www.definitivetech.com/produc...d=ProSub%20800
I am using this one; you may try pro-sub 1000 also.

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Originally Posted by Chrys7 View Post

Thx shopping for a sub under $500 anyone got suggestions?
post #60 of 169
It is almost two months since we heard news about 4100. What is going for USA? Is it because of economy?
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