Onkyo tx nr1007 owners' thread - Page 2

Wating for the 1007 review too to make my decision between the 807 and the 1007

any news???

Any news or reviews on the 1007 or 3007?? Anyone....Im deciding on one of these to purchase!

Looks like these are in stock at Amazon.

That I believe. This is an outstanding receiver for the price. Going to get my 3007 in the next month. It will be one, lllooooooonnnnngggg month of waiting.

I have something I would like as a request until I can find out myself...

It seems that you are doing a 9.2 set up with height surrounds, yes? I wanted to know if 5.1 sources could be upmixed to 9.1 with DolbyPL2z. I know it sounds like an odd request but I can find zero documentation about this ability with PL2z. I know PL2x can upmix to 7.1 (5.1 + stereo rear surrounds) and I know PLz can upmix to 7.1 (5.1 + stereo height) but what I do not know at all (because this is the first 9.2 AVR) is if you can have heights and rear surrounds using just DolbyPL2z. According to the manual, I can use a workaround to do this. I could use THX Ultra2 and PL2z or I could use PL2x and DSX Height. This is concerning 5.1 sources only, btw. So I guess what I want to know is if PL2x and PL2z can be used together or if PL2z also applies rear surround matrixing in addition to the added heights.

Thanks.

Really? Very interesting news. So what mode is that, exactly? Do you have the AVR set to know that you have front heights and rear surrounds in the initial setup menu and then watch a 5.1 source with DolbyPL2z enabled? I am very curious about trying the new "height" speakers when I get my 3007 but it looked like (according to the user manual) that I wouldn't be able to toggle between DSX height and PL2z and have my rear surrounds active with a 5.1 source.

Good news, indeed. Thank you very much!

PLIIz and x are not mutually exclusive. The "z" version is just an extension of "x" that allows for matrixing height surrounds as well.

When doing 5.1>7.1 upmix, PLIIx processes ONLY the two surround channels (2ch > 4ch). PLIIz doesn't affect any of the channels, it just extracts "ambient" info from the mix. I see no reason why PLIIx couldn't be used to do a 2-ch > 4-ch upmix of the surrounds in addition to extracting 2 height channels (with PLIIz), they are totally independent processes. It would be pretty silly of Dolby to do that, especially on a 9.1 receiver.

You can also use PLIIx to go 5.1>7.1 and then use DSX to generate the heights.

That I know. There has been NO documentation about using Dolby PL2z in a 9.1 configuration. Only 7.1. I had to ask because I wasn't sure. This is the first AVR with 9 channels of amplification and PL2z and also DSX. Like I mentioned, in the manual, it says I could use THX Ultra2 + DSX Height or PL2x + DSX Height or THX Ultra2 + PL2z. Nowhere in ANY documenation have I seen that you can use just PL2z for heights and rears together. I just wanted that to be clarified.

Thanks for for that, batpig. I think I am not the only person who wants to know this.

I'll be honest and say I don't know it for a fact, I am mostly speculating. But I would think it's highly likely that with a 7.1+HEIGHT setup, when the source material is 5.1 you should be able to matrix all the way to 9.1 using Dolby PLII (x + z).

I sure hope so. Not only am I looking forward to having proper 7.1 use in my theater (my current AVR is pre PL2x and pre HDMI) but I look forward to adding height speakers and being able to A-B those with Pro Logic 2z and DSX Height mode.

I love all the new processing modes the 1007 (or in my case, the 3007) adds over what I've got right now.

Is the ISF on the front panel saying much about the HDMi pass-thru ability of TX-NR1007?

Winston,

Out of curiosity, does the 1007 get noticeably hot to touch similar to the other Onkyos?

Nothing better than the Antec Component Coolers... Plus a Cool Component mini fan set...

Folks,

Newegg has the unit on sale today 999.00, free shipping and a free ipod dock.

I just pulled the trigger. Winston I hope you have something good to report.

Heliman

And they have the 3007 for $1400, is it worth the extra $400?

My Take..

I really like the TX-NR1007. I was planning to keep the 3007 as my "Winter" receiver but to cut right to the chase, the 1007 gets my vote. Why? It is much more simple for me. Others may opt for the 3007 depending on your set ups. I already have top notch scaling since I am Beta testing the DVDO DUO. So the 3007's (and 5007's) slightly better scaler scaling (very slightly) means nothing to me. Their sounds are the same and all the sound processing modes (even some cool gamig modes) and features are exactly the same. Also with both you get 2 Subwoofer outs which can be set up differently. You do not lose much except for USB options which I would never use. At least you get the iPod Docking options! Oh and you also don't get a back lit remote but that is definitely not the end of the world. You get the same Audyssey MultEQ XT, same internet radio options and features, simultaneous HDMI outputs, ISF modes, THX modes and most important to me 9.2 analog outs so I can feed my B&K 200.7 AMP. That is a heck of a lot of "the same" for less options.

So how does it sound? Terrific of course otherwise I wouldn't Even be typing this. I of course test all receivers by themselves (without my AMP) so I can "hear" the differences between them. Since I was comparing to receivers above lets compare a little to the 807 which is right below the 1007. I like that the 1007 allows for Low, Mid and High gains to be adjusted for each speaker. For example, I can easily have the Heights have better Gain at the touch of a button or two. Same for treble and bass adjustments. That is tweaking baby! And of course having 9 channels means the Heights and Backs both can be on with their own identity. Awesome! So does it make a difference? YES! I am experiencing the best sound to date in my theater using the 1007/3007/5007 with my B&K AMP. Yes they sound excellent without my AMP but I even "hear" more using it. I think once you go separate you never go back!

Football games have never sounded better. The last couple of years there really has not been any groundbreaking differences. Now there is with the Height speakers. Of course I like DSX for sports using the Heights. You can hear the quarterback bark out signals as well as the crowd go nuts up there. It really makes the game come to life. I have always believed more in pic Q over sound but after this I am not sure anymore.

Movies get my PLIIz Height vote. I am not a fan of Audyssey Wide (since my room is not wide enough) but given the choice between the two I would go with Heights anyway. I like having the Helicopters and Rain up there. Not to mention stray bullets and soaring planes. They only come in a few times per movie but when they do it makes it memorable. If they were on constantly it would kill the cool effect. With the 1007 giving true 9 channel sound at an affordable price it is "the" absolute "best bang for the buck" receiver available today. Especially since it has Audyssey MultEQ XT, THX Loudness Plus and excellent scaling.

So what next? I usually skip every other generation (doing reviews) and as great as this new gen is I doubt next year will be much better. I should be good until 2011! The 1007 validates my Onkyo hiatus! If you are still wondering if you should upgrade from your current receiver (and are reading this) have no fear and do it. The 1007 should be good to go for a long time. Now stop wondering!

I will check here from time to time but have a lot on plate at the moment. If you have any questions I am only a PM away...

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I have a few questions on the multi-room capabilities of this receiver. I downloaded the manual for the 1007 and the 3007/5007. It mentions that only an analog source can be output to the zone 2 or 3 speakers. Would the ipod and HD radio add on or an internet radio source come through on zone 2?

Question 2 would be the 9 amps. I'm pretty sure I understand the manual and other discussions here, but to clarify....I can have a 7.1 solution in one room (using heights and no surround back) and have a zone 2 two speaker solution in another room at the same time?

Last question pertains to the second HDMI out. I assume this means I could have a monitor in a second room with an HDMI cable run. We would essentially see the same TV program as in the main room. Would this HDMI output sound and picture to the second monitor?

Thanks for the help

Mark

Thank you for that. I just pulled the trigger myself. I was debating getting the 3007, but it just would not have been worth while for me. Heck, I am upgrading from an Onkyo TX-DS575.

It just took me 10 minutes to check out though, they would not ship this item an APO at all. So I had to send it to my parents and they will have to mail it to me.

Thank you.

I'm on the verge myself, is the scaling on the 1007 a big step up from the Onkyo 705? I would really like it for Direct TV but wondering if it has a pass thru for blu ray?

Yes to both.

Now one last question. Joerod I read your excellent review of the 707 would I notice distinct audio/video advantages going with the 1007 just used as a pre/pro? That's the deciding factor for me. Thanks for your feedback.

Great question. I used the 707 for a pre-pro for about 2 weeks. After using the 1007 the difference depends on if you are doing Heights. Since the 1007 has 9 pre outs you are able to use backs with Heights. With the 707 I could use the 7 channel pre outs and then connect the Heights to the 707's speaker terminals. Yes, it worked fine but the sound from the Backs and Heights was the same. Not with the 1007. You can assign your AMP 7 channels and still hook up either the Heights or the Backs directly to the 1007's speaker terminals and get better sound. I have a small 2 channel amp but I may end up just using the 1007 to do a couple speakers. Might as well not let its amp section go to waste. I keep going back and forth between letting the 1007 do the Heights or Backs. I may let it handle the Backs since I really like the sound pumped (using B&K 200.7) thru the Heights for Sports using DSX. The jury is still out though.

Is the 1007 worth it over the 707... Yes...