or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Software › All Godzilla Movies Japanese Import Blu-Ray Review Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

All Godzilla Movies Japanese Import Blu-Ray Review Thread - Page 2

post #31 of 141
When would the BD version of the seven SD DVD's be released?
http://www.amazon.com/Godzilla-Colle.../dp/B000VXWK86
And then someday, a BD release of:
http://www.stomptokyo.com/scott/blog...550/index.html
====================
These new BD's are all just old transfers (ala: "Gorija" on BD), right?
BIG thanks.
post #32 of 141
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

When would the BD version of the seven SD DVD's be released?
http://www.amazon.com/Godzilla-Colle.../dp/B000VXWK86
And then someday, a BD release of:
http://www.stomptokyo.com/scott/blog...550/index.html
====================
These new BD's are all just old transfers (ala: "Gorija" on BD), right?
BIG thanks.

Not in the case of the original 1954 "Gojira" Japanese blu-ray released a few months ago. It's clearly a newly remastered version of the film and while not a perfect presentation due to the condition of the original film elements, is easily the best version of the movie on home video. The US release from Classic Media on the other hand, is pretty bad and likely a upconversion of their standard definition transfer used on their 2 dvd release from a few years ago.

As for the other titles, most if not all will be released on blu-ray in Japan by the end of 2010. Some like GMK and the other Godzilla films from the past 20 years will show little or no improvement over their dvd counterparts. However, I'd go out on a limb and say the older 50's and '60's movies will be noticeable upgrades from their dvd releases.

T.B.
post #33 of 141
Thread Starter 
Received "War Of The Gargantuas" and "Godzilla vs Destroyer" Blu-rays from Japan today.

The good news is, War Of The Gargantuas, one of my favorite Toho genre films is a very good hd transfer to blu-ray, better than most of the other Toho blu-rays I seen so far.

It's *not* a tremendous upgrade from the Japanese region 2 dvd (some of the others released so far are barely above standard def upconverts) but I think due to the overall good condition of the print used and sharp, clean photography typical of mid to late 60's Toho films, it does stand out. There's a bit of change in the color timing to a more yellow/green tint vs the fairly balanced color of the older region 2 dvd but it's barely noticable. There is a nagging bit of softness in the image in some indoor scenes, but for the most part, the picture quality is very good and doesn't suffer from some of the compression issues I notice when viewing the R2 dvd. The framing is vertically a bit more open on the top and bottom revealing more image information with no cropping on the sides compared to the R2 dvd.

The audio is generally excellent - I personally prefer the PCM stereo track over the TruHD 5.1 surround audio mix (same mix as on the R2 dvd)although there's a music soundtrack only audio track showcasing one of composer Akira Ifukube's most distinctive scores.

I skimmed through the bountiful extras on this disc as well. As far as I can tell, all the extras with one key exception - the alternate scenes used in the US version of the movie are not included. This means lots of trailers and the out take footage mostly featuring the miniature Maser Cannon tanks and the two suitmation actors partially in their respective Gargantua costumes. There's two b/w still galleries, one featuring promo stills used in ads, etc and the other a large gallery of candid shots on the set, many featuring American actor Russ Tamblin and his wife (who never looks happy to be there). There's also a interesting new short feature, a tour through the Toho studios prop warehouse where lots of old model tanks, planes, costumes and monster suits in various states of decay can be seen. And as on some of the other Toho discs, there's the funny (or annoying depending on your POV) read-through in Japanese of one of those old colorfully illustrated children's monster books. The "tab" menu for the extras is a bit more convoluted than usual for Toho genre Blu-rays to navigate and find certain features for us non-Japanese reading viewers though. Another quibble - most of the bonus features are in standard definition and the out take footage appears to be incorrectly squeezed horizontally although I admittedly may need to fiddle with my monitor's settings to get the proper aspect ratio (that footage is windowboxed).

Godzilla vs Destroyer (or Destroyah) also sports a very nice transfer and the image actually is the best and most modern looking of any of the Toho blu-rays I've seen, period. Very strong, stable color saturation and deep blacks when called for. The TruHD 5.1 audio track is also impressive, at least compared to most of Toho's other rather timid Blu-ray audio tracks. The bonus features seem a little more unnecessarily random and unfocused than most other Toho release for some reason. For instance, there's two "step-through" features to view various theater programs and ad art for all the Godzilla movies between '84 - '95. Also, this installment of a Toho studio tour is rather boring focusing on sets and the outdoor pool used to film many of the ocean scenes. Aside from the loads of various tv and theatrical trailers, there is one general feature that includes a montage of scenes from all the "Heisei" era movies set to Ifukube's music much like the old Godzilla Fantasia music features on tape and laserdisc along with a couple chapters on the filming of the movie, but nothing on the level of intense focus of every aspect of creating the movie like previous Godzilla Heisei era "Making Of" features.

Despite these two releases taking away some of the sting from the disappointingly weak transfer of the recently released "Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack," I still have a very hard time recommending any of these Blu-ray releases, especially for those who already have the Japanese region 2 dvds considering the cost, even for those in Japan. I'm a pretty hard core collector and fan of these movies, having bought *every* Toho genre release on Japanese import laserdisc and later on dvd, and I am carefully cherry picking through these Blu-ray releases, buying 2 - 3 of each bi-monthly batch of 5 releases due to the cost and inconsistent upgrade quality.

T.B.
post #34 of 141
Is it possible that you could post some screenshots?
post #35 of 141
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rated-rsuperstar View Post

Is it possible that you could post some screenshots?

Unfortunately no. I don't have a blu-ray player on my pc and having tried to get decent shots off the screen in my home theater in the living room, it never comes out good.

T.B.
post #36 of 141
Destroyah arrived today.




These are just shots off my tv so I apologize for the quality.








Like my other bluray Biollante, the quality of this movie varies from scene to scene. The image is still soft throughout, yet this release appears to have less grain then Biollante.

Audio is a lot better as well. Destroyah makes use of all the surround channels unlike Biollante.

Extras include multiple trailers and tv spots in HD/SD, a 50 minute making of, and galleries featuring movie artwork and movie programs in HD.

Destroyah is still not up to par with American releases of older films like the James Bond series but it's still a recommended buy for fans.
post #37 of 141
Man, that's great to hear about Gargantuas. I love that movie but couldn't find what region this blu was and, if possible, the price? thanks.
post #38 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

Man, that's great to hear about Gargantuas. I love that movie but couldn't find what region this blu was and, if possible, the price? thanks.

The bluray is region A. Which is the US and Japan but if you have a ps3, you can play any bluray.

Gargantuas will run you around $60 to 70 dollars from sites like playasia.com or amazon.jp.
post #39 of 141
Thread Starter 
It's kind of strange Toho hasn't yet released their slate of the next 5 Blu-ray releases for May. This month's batch looks to be the best so far.
post #40 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rated-rsuperstar View Post

The bluray is region A. Which is the US and Japan but if you have a ps3, you can play any bluray.

Gargantuas will run you around $60 to 70 dollars from sites like playasia.com or amazon.jp.

Thanks, I had checked Yesasia and did a search but couldn't find it. Well, my birthday IS coming up so......
post #41 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

Thanks, I had checked Yesasia and did a search but couldn't find it. Well, my birthday IS coming up so......

I see your posting in the bluray.com thread as well.

I checked yesasia and playasia looks like Amazon.jp is your best bet.
post #42 of 141
So is anyone planning on getting The Mysterians, G:TTHM, Godzilla vs Mothra 64, Atragon, or GXM coming out on the 19th?

I'm really hoping The Mysterians got a decent cleaning up and restoration as the film has a lot of issues in terms of print damage.

I'm also very interested in GvM and G:TTHM as they're both classics and should great in HD. I'm just happy they didn't put to many other Showa films in this wave. Convincing my wife to let me get one is huge issue, let along 3! I just hope they come out looking good. I love the Gojira Toho Blu-ray (the clarity and sharpness look great, yet still film like), but I have no real way to judge how the color scope films may look based on that Blu-ray.

Oh does anyone here have Godzilla (1984)? It's a film near and dear to me and I was wondering how is the picture quality on that (pics off a tv even would be fine)? Also how long does the new destruction comparison extra run, I read somewhere it's like 50 minutes long in addition to being in HD and covers the entire series!
post #43 of 141
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gfanikf View Post

So is anyone planning on getting The Mysterians, G:TTHM, Godzilla vs Mothra 64, Atragon, or GXM coming out on the 19th?

I'm really hoping The Mysterians got a decent cleaning up and restoration as the film has a lot of issues in terms of print damage.

I'm also very interested in GvM and G:TTHM as they're both classics and should great in HD. I'm just happy they didn't put to many other Showa films in this wave. Convincing my wife to let me get one is huge issue, let along 3! I just hope they come out looking good. I love the Gojira Toho Blu-ray (the clarity and sharpness look great, yet still film like), but I have no real way to judge how the color scope films may look based on that Blu-ray.

Oh does anyone here have Godzilla (1984)? It's a film near and dear to me and I was wondering how is the picture quality on that (pics off a tv even would be fine)? Also how long does the new destruction comparison extra run, I read somewhere it's like 50 minutes long in addition to being in HD and covers the entire series!

I have Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidorah and Atragon on preorder from Amazon Japan and should get them by the end of next week. These three are among my very favorite Toho films so I'm pretty eager to check out the Blu-ray releases with some trepidation based on Toho's spotty quality of their releases thus far.

I do not yet have Godzilla 1984 as I'm basically cherry picking from each wave's releases limiting to 2 or 3 BRs per wave.

I agree that the original Godzilla '54 looks very good and is easily the best the movie has ever looked on home video. I wish some of Toho's other Blu-ray releases would be as dramatic an improvement over previous home video releases as this one has been.

T.B.
post #44 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Partyslammer View Post

I have Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidorah and Atragon on preorder from Amazon Japan and should get them by the end of next week. These three are among my very favorite Toho films so I'm pretty eager to check out the Blu-ray releases with some trepidation based on Toho's spotty quality of their releases thus far.

Yeah, I really want to pick up Mothra and Ghidorah myself (I have the Media Blasters Atragon), but I want to make sure the transfers are nicely done first.
post #45 of 141
How's the sound?
The Toho SD DVD's seemed, too me, too be thin & bright.
post #46 of 141
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

How's the sound?
The Toho SD DVD's seemed, too me, too be thin & bright.

The sound on every Toho Blu-ray is at best, a modest increase in quality due no doubt to the higher quality encoding over their region 2 dvd counterparts. The inconsistent and usually artificial sounding 5.1 "remixes" on the 60's and 70's Toho dvds are replicated on the Blu-ray releases but considering most of these movies had a mono soundtrack to begin with, I've found the pcm mono track on the Blu-rays seem to be the better choice and show the most improvement sonically over the dvds.

The 80's through 00's films have better mixed surround tracks, but still are far from room shaking "demo" material. I was pretty unimpressed with how timid the 2002 movie Godzilla GMK's audio turned out on it's Blu-ray release. Really, the best, most modern sounding Blu-ray Godzilla released so far is the last movie produced - Godzilla: Final Wars which also unfortunately happens to be among the very worst of the movies in the series.

T.B.
post #47 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Partyslammer View Post

The sound on every Toho Blu-ray is at best, a modest increase in quality due no doubt to the higher quality encoding over their region 2 dvd counterparts. The inconsistent and usually artificial sounding 5.1 "remixes" on the 60's and 70's Toho dvds are replicated on the Blu-ray releases but considering most of these movies had a mono soundtrack to begin with, I've found the pcm mono track on the Blu-rays seem to be the better choice and show the most improvement sonically over the dvds.

T.B.

BIG thanks.
I listen too the mono (original) soundtracks on the SD DVD's, as well.
post #48 of 141
Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla arrived, and as a nice surprise I won a copy of the poster magazine CDjapan had in a drawing.




The poster book only goes up to Godzilla 2000 as it was a promotion for the movie but it's still cool nonetheless.




I'll post some screenshots of SpaceGodzilla later.
post #49 of 141
The PQ for SpaceGodzilla is another average release. Indoor shots tend to look really good while outdoor shots and the special effects footage are very soft. The colors in SpaceGodzilla look natural, unlike Destroyah where the whole print had a green tint to it. PQ 3/5.







post #50 of 141
How disappointing! I am grateful for this thread--it is saving me a lot of money! I hope somewhere in the mix we'll see something that's a significant upgrade in PQ. Eager to hear about Mysterians...
post #51 of 141
Thread Starter 
I was surprised to see my Amazon Japan shipment on my door today after only 3 days since I was notified it shipped. Of the latest wave of Toho genre Blu-rays, I bought "Atragon," "Mothra vs Godzilla (1964)" and "Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster."

I am happy to say all three movies and marginally superior upgrades from their Japanese region 2 dvd releases which are generally considered to be the previously best presentations on home video for each movie.

One all three Blu-ray releases, the image quality is noticeably more vibrant and especially in the two Godzilla movies, the yellows have been bumped up significantly, so for instance, the opening text credits on Ghidorah are yellow, not orangish. Now I'm not saying there's a huge difference, in fact it's pretty minor compared to the old dvds which looked very nice on their own. But compared to the iffy results of several of Tohos other genre releases so far, it's a welcome improvement in all critical areas visually. IMO, Atragon is the most improved here, Ghidorah the least. Whether it's worth about $60 US to upgrade is questionable if you already have the region 2 dvds.

The audio on the original mono/stereo pcm tracks for all three movies is the preferred option as usual. The 5.1 "Remix" TrueHD tracks however seem to have the lower frequencies pumped way too high to a distracting degree. All three have the Japanese commentary tracks carried over from the region 2 dvd releases. For some reason, only Ghidorah has an isolated 2 channel mono music soundtrack option.

As typical for Toho's Blu-ray releases, the extras all in standard definition have been ported over from the region 2 dvds. That means for instance, on the Ghidorah Blu-ray, you get the b/w 8mm footage shot during the production of that movie which shows the primitive conditions Toho techs made the suits and filmed the special effects. There's a quick clip of rough, unedited effects footage for Atragon on that disc and so on. And as per previous Toho Blu-ray releases, there's at least one new feature produced for the respective Blu-ray releases. Of the three discs, Atragon easily has the nicest new bonus feature, which goes into great detail about the design of the "Mecha" to the point you see the various models and toys made of the Atragon submarine. Mothra vs Godzilla has a new feature which is a great interview with Godzilla garage model kit sculptor Yuji Sakai in his studio who shows dozens of his sculpts as he discusses the evolution of the Godzilla suit design through the movies.

Finally, in what looks like a odd new trend for Toho, all three Blu-ray releases have what appears to be a standard definition anamorphic version of the movie with only a Dolby Digital mono or stereo soundtrack of the film that appears to be straight off the original dvds in addition to the high definition version. What's interesting, is that the standard definition versions are *not* the color corrected "newly remastered for HD" transfers and in the case of Mothra vs Godzilla and Atragon, are framed slightly narrower than the HD versions which seem to perhaps be a little *too* opened up on the framing as in one scene during Atragon when the Submarine starts tunneling into the undersea MU empire, there's a large hair or something stuck at the top of the frame for a few seconds that is matted out on the dvd version.

Here's a few shots of the Blu-rays with a few of my Toho garage kits.

Mothra vs Godzilla


Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster


Atragon


T.B.
post #52 of 141
Thread Starter 
I watched Atragon and did a much more in-depth comparison between the two versions on the Blu-ray this week and noticed a couple things I previously didn't mention.

First off, the "original version" which is noted on the menu as a "1968 version" has some very minor cuts. For example, when the group is watching the first test of the Atragon submarine on the beach, the small comical part where one of the characters mistakes a fish jumping out of the water as the sub surfacing is cut from the 1968 version.

Also, the color timing on the remastered HD version does some strange things to certain things in a scene where the item was originally white, lending them an unwanted pinkish hue. For example, again during the scene where the Submarine is first shown on it's test run, some of the crew wear white headphones but in the remastered version, the coloring makes them look like pink ear muffs! One character's hat is now pink instead of white as well! I really wish I had a pc Blu-ray player to do screen caps to show exactly what I'm talking about.

After more viewing these discs over the past week, I have to admit I actually prefer the look and especially color and framing of the non-remastered "cut" or "shortened" versions (which are in HD, btw) included on these three Blu-ray releases even though they have simple DD soundtracks and the prints have rampant scratches and other dirt and wear evident in the transfers.

As it's turned out, these new releases give the viewer direct side by side comparisons which illustrate both the pros and cons to Toho's HD remastering process. It's very much a similar viewing experience to the Grindhouse "Planet Terror" damaged print or scratch-free viewing option Blu-ray release.

T.B.
post #53 of 141
I wish I had the extra funds to get those discs. Your a lucky guy and your Godzilla figures are awesome.
post #54 of 141
I caved in and got Toho's Mysterians Blu Ray. Spent a little time with it this weekend. Certainly not a revelation, although the colors are a lot more natural than the US release on DVD from a few years back.

If you want giant monster eye candy Blu Ray, try the new Mega Monster Battle from Tsubaraya productions on Japan Blu Ray. Being from the Ultra series, it is Ultra silly, but hey, lighten up. It even has English subtitles!
post #55 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post

If you want giant monster eye candy Blu Ray, try the new Mega Monster Battle from Tsubaraya productions on Japan Blu Ray. Being from the Ultra series, it is Ultra silly, but hey, lighten up. It even has English subtitles!

It's nice to see Tsuburaya finally putting english subtitles on their blurays. I'm hoping for a Ultraman Next bluray release.
post #56 of 141
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rated-rsuperstar View Post

It's nice to see Tsuburaya finally putting english subtitles on their blurays. I'm hoping for a Ultraman Next bluray release.

I would like to see "Big Man Japan" get a Blu-ray release. I thought that odd little movie was the most interesting giant monster flick in a long time.

BTW, it's very strange that Toho has still not announced their next batch of Blu-Ray releases which if following their pattern thus far, should be released by the beginning of June at the latest.

T.B.
post #57 of 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Partyslammer View Post

BTW, it's very strange that Toho has still not announced their next batch of Blu-Ray releases which if following their pattern thus far, should be released by the beginning of June at the latest.

There's rumors that the previous releases didn't sell as well as expected, making TOHO reconsider their Blu-Ray plans.
post #58 of 141
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixfootse7en View Post

There's rumors that the previous releases didn't sell as well as expected, making TOHO reconsider their Blu-Ray plans.

Interesting. Although if true, it doesn't surprise me as the transfers have been hit or miss and the price per title is outrageous even for Japan. If they could squeeze out the remaining Godzilla movies through "Destroy All Monsters" and a few other 60's Kaiju films, I'd be happy with that. I can't imagine too many Japanese are willing to pay about 5,000 yen for titles like Godzilla vs Gigan.

T.B.
post #59 of 141
I know it's more an import thread, but it's about all we have for Godzilla. Surprised no one bumped it with the news:

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2...d-and-blu-ray/

Destroy all Monsters and Godzilla vs. Megalon are coming to Blu in the states. Megalon is kind of a shocker, mostly because it's Megalon, but also because it never had a widescreen, official release in the states before. Sweet.
post #60 of 141
YES!!! in Japanese please
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Blu-ray Software
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Software › All Godzilla Movies Japanese Import Blu-Ray Review Thread