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post #871 of 1008
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Originally Posted by dave43 View Post

I just got the NS-BDVDR3. I played a movie last night through hdmi and everything was fine. This morning I get sound ... no video. Component cables work though. What's going on? I also tried to hook up a external usb powered HD. Could that have screwed something up?

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Originally Posted by dave43 View Post

Tried to reset. Hit power...then hit power again after 5 seconds like the manual said and nothing happened. maybe I'm missing something.

I think the largest size USB drive the brdvd3 handles is 32gb. I didn't think an external hdd would work in these players.

Try doing the factory reset, found under the Setting menu.
post #872 of 1008
I've used a 360GB HDD with no problems. USB powered is hit or miss since port power is marginal. Externally powered usually works. Drive must be FAT or FAT32.
post #873 of 1008
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

dave43,

I have an Insignia with a bad HDMI port (I knew it did when I bought it). So they do fail. If you're certain it's not a cable problem or 24p compatibility problem with your tv, I recommend you exchange the player ASAP.

Since I bought this refurbished from Ebay from the Best buy outlet they want me to pay shipping back. Not sure if it's worth it. What am I missing by using the component cables if I decide to keep it?
post #874 of 1008
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Originally Posted by dave43 View Post

...What am I missing by using the component cables if I decide to keep it?

24p and DVD upconversion. That's a big deal to some. But it doesn't make any noticeable difference to me on the smallish screen my component-only insignia is on.
post #875 of 1008
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

24p and DVD upconversion. That's a big deal to some. But it doesn't make any noticeable difference to me on the smallish screen my component-only insignia is on.


At this point I have a 768P plasma so i can't do 24P and the Insignia isn't known for it's upconversion so maybe i'm not missing much.
post #876 of 1008
I have one of these coming with no remote.

Is the RCA RCRP05B still the best low cost solution?

Only remote I have is an older Sony RM-V302 which I don't think can take custom codes.

Ooh, looking through my junk pile I found two old COX remotes that seem to be JP1 - a RC1833-cx01 and a AT2000-4 I wonder if I can make these control the dvd.

aha! hit paydirt, I also have a cox 7820b which according to some info I found on google can be made to use "Audio code 1609 (or 31609)" to control the dvd player.
post #877 of 1008
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Originally Posted by NeedWheels View Post

I have one of these coming with no remote.

Is the RCA RCRP05B still the best low cost solution?

Only remote I have is an older Sony RM-V302 which I don't think can take custom codes.

Ooh, looking through my junk pile I found two old COX remotes that seem to be JP1 - a RC1833-cx01 and a AT2000-4 I wonder if I can make these control the dvd.

aha! hit paydirt, I also have a cox 7820b which according to some info I found on google can be made to use "Audio code 1609 (or 31609)" to control the dvd player.

Your cox remote will work. The next cheapest option is the original remote which is $13 shipped from the best buy parts site. Next cheapest is the $15 RCA from walgreens. There are also compatible remotes on bay $7 and up. HERE's the complete list of remotes and codes.
post #878 of 1008
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Your cox remote will work. The next cheapest option is the original remote which is $13 shipped from the best buy parts site. Next cheapest is the $15 RCA from walgreens. There are also compatible remotes on bay $7 and up. HERE's the complete list of remotes and codes.

Thanks for all the advice!

Looks like my Cox remote is too old, it's the very early one with the 1043 signature, so Key Magic is not completely working on it. It's stamped JP1.1 but people on that other forum say it's really 1.2 So I have to decide if I want to get a JP cable or the RCA, I will probably get the RCA.
post #879 of 1008
Ugh, I cannot stress this enough - DO NOT BUY THE BRDVD3-CA from ebay/cowboom/bestbuyoutlet/dealtree

It's the Canadian version that Best Buy is importing and hoping to fool people with on ebay. Judging by how quickly they are selling, many people are falling for this.

It's a completely different unit apparently, even though it shared the "BRDVD3" name. Not only will it not do netflix, it has a different remote and overall design.

Damn I can't believe I fell for it too, and I had previous experience with DealTree. Absolute scam artists.
post #880 of 1008
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Originally Posted by NeedWheels View Post

Damn I can't believe I fell for it too, and I had previous experience with DealTree. Absolute scam artists.

Via cowboom they offer a 100% refund including shipping both ways.
post #881 of 1008
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Originally Posted by NeedWheels View Post

Ugh, I cannot stress this enough - DO NOT BUY THE BRDVD3-CA from ebay/cowboom/bestbuyoutlet/dealtree

It's the Canadian version that Best Buy is importing and hoping to fool people with on ebay. Judging by how quickly they are selling, many people are falling for this.

It's a completely different unit apparently, even though it shared the "BRDVD3" name. Not only will it not do netflix, it has a different remote and overall design.

Damn I can't believe I fell for it too, and I had previous experience with DealTree. Absolute scam artists.

Did you actually purchase one???

I bought 2 in the last 2 weeks, both are USA models with Netflix etc. One for $42 the other for $45 with free shipping from the BB outlet store. They work perfectly other than the poor ir reception. One is for my daughter at college for free Netflix via my account, the other for a bedroom unit.

Two players with Netflix (with the ability to search Netflix) instead of only showing your instant que for less than $100 is a real deal.

When they break, a low price of admission.
post #882 of 1008
I think the OP is trying to say that most people are probably unaware that the -CA version won't stream netflix. They don't realize what a huge difference those two letters make. The cowboom listings don't mention the lack of streaming at all. So I agree that dumping these CA models without full disclosure could be called a scam.
post #883 of 1008
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Originally Posted by gmanhdtv View Post

Did you actually purchase one???

I bought 2 in the last 2 weeks, both are USA models with Netflix etc.

Are you saying your auction listing showed the -CA model but the non-CA model arrived?

That's really strange on their part if so, I can only hope I get the same deal - I talked them into issuing an RMA so I can immediately return it when it gets here on Friday but I'd have to pay shipping. I had bought a 2nd one when I realized the -CA trick and spent half the day emailing them to get them to cancel the order before it shipped. They refunded it but then re-generated another invoice so they are playing games with me, ugh.

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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I think the OP is trying to say that most people are probably unaware that the -CA version won't stream netflix. They don't realize what a huge difference those two letters make. The cowboom listings don't mention the lack of streaming at all. So I agree that dumping these CA models without full disclosure could be called a scam.

Well not only that but the firmware releases for the -CA are far less frequent and behind the non-CA version. So several bugs persist.

BTW I think the BRDVD3 is essentially end-of-life because they've announced there will be no other streaming services added (CinemaNow is the last one they are adding this summer). So no youtube or Hulu.
post #884 of 1008
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I think the OP is trying to say that most people are probably unaware that the -CA version won't stream netflix. They don't realize what a huge difference those two letters make. The cowboom listings don't mention the lack of streaming at all. So I agree that dumping these CA models without full disclosure could be called a scam.


I got the NS-BRDVD3-CA and it streams netflix...just wish the hdmi port worked.
post #885 of 1008
I don't have a CA version, but everything I've read said it didn't have netflix. So this is the first report I've seen to the contrary. Did you flash with the US firmware (others have said that's not possible), or did it just work out of the box? I wonder why it won't work for other people. Is it possible you really got a US version in a CA box?

I bought one with a bad HDMI port too, but that was stated in the listing, and it had a much lower price to boot. All I wanted was a netflix streamer for an old SD TV, so for $30 shippied, it was a great deal.

EDIT: It all makes sense now per the post below. CA versions can't do netflix. But if you buy one, you might end up with the US version, which obviously can do netflix.
post #886 of 1008
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Originally Posted by NeedWheels View Post

Are you saying your auction listing showed the -CA model but the non-CA model arrived?

That's really strange on their part if so, I can only hope I get the same deal - I talked them into issuing an RMA so I can immediately return it when it gets here on Friday but I'd have to pay shipping. I had bought a 2nd one when I realized the -CA trick and spent half the day emailing them to get them to cancel the order before it shipped. They refunded it but then re-generated another invoice so they are playing games with me, ugh.



Well not only that but the firmware releases for the -CA are far less frequent and behind the non-CA version. So several bugs persist.

BTW I think the BRDVD3 is essentially end-of-life because they've announced there will be no other streaming services added (CinemaNow is the last one they are adding this summer). So no youtube or Hulu.

Both of my units were "CA" models per invoice, but not on the actual units that arrived. Netflix was available upon initial power-up and still there after the unit downloaded the latest firmware. The unit was connected to the internet at power-up, made the update, with Netflix and all other functions working perfectly.

The BB Outlet store rarely if ever shows the non "CA" model for sale, maybe it is just a system log issue when they list them for sale or maybe a legal issue that according to the official "Insignia" website the "CA" models are NOT FOR SALE in the USA!


I have a friend that wants to order one as well and will report back if he receives the USA or Canadian version.
post #887 of 1008
I was using my BRDVD3 with my older component only set and all was fine. Tried it on my 50' plasma via HDMI and got red dots all over the screen. Got an RMA but family issues came up and did not use it in time. Guess I'm stuck. What type of HDMI problems are common, and are there any easy fixes?

More or less a non issue as I got it for the basement TV, but just curious.
post #888 of 1008
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Originally Posted by dave43 View Post

I got the NS-BRDVD3-CA and it streams netflix...just wish the hdmi port worked.

You mean your auction listed -CA or the physical item you have now says -CA ? If you have a -CA and it works with netflix, you might be the first person to ever report that, there are many complaints otherwise.

Mine is due to arrive tomorrow and it was sold as a -CA model so I will be very curious to see what I get.

Considering how they track each specific item because of what is missing in the box (or the box itself) you'd think they'd know exactly what they are selling you.

I wonder if what they ship is based on the price point it sells at. They sure have a TON of the "scratched" units available (hundreds listed each month? where are all these coming from?)

Do you know if yours was listed as "grade A" refurbished or "grade B". Maybe the "grade A" is codename for non-CA?

I am still fighting them over the 2nd one I bought before I knew better. They finally refunded it but then turned around and immediately invoiced me again and are threatening to mark me as a non-paying bidder via ebay dispute system. Now they no longer respond to my emails.
post #889 of 1008
It was listed as CA and grade A
post #890 of 1008
Does anyone have handshake issues with the brdvd3? I've connected it to an onkyo 606. And when it turns on it displays the picture, but then the screen goes off (like it normally would do for 1 sec or something) but it never comes back on again. Or is this the onkyo 606 that is messing up?
post #891 of 1008
Well I'll be darned.

Just arrived and the side of the box says "with netflix".

Won't be powering it on until tonight though, UPS baked this thing all day in the 96 degree sun, it's roasting. I need to let it cool down to room temps first.

Scratches are only on the bottom pads.

Says made September 2009.
post #892 of 1008
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Originally Posted by darkthrone View Post

Does anyone have handshake issues with the brdvd3? I've connected it to an onkyo 606. And when it turns on it displays the picture, but then the screen goes off (like it normally would do for 1 sec or something) but it never comes back on again. Or is this the onkyo 606 that is messing up?

I have the same issue. Flashes on and off. Wish I could find a fix.
post #893 of 1008
Is it just me or does this have the noisiest drive/tray I've ever heard on a DVD player? I can hear it change chapters and the startup noise is almost alarming.

My cheap coby dvd player is silent compared to this.

Maybe that's why it was returned/refurbished.

Well I don't have any blu-ray to test yet but the menu sure does look pretty on my computer monitor via HDMI - it's nice that it drives both the component output and HDMI at the same time.

None of my remotes will control it, can't find a working code, so I'll have to wait until Monday to get an RCA.

The splash menu shows netflix, so it's definitely the non -CA.

I wonder why the heck their marketing is so messed up?
post #894 of 1008
I have had periodic handshaking issues. It might be because I bought the cheapest HDMI cable on the planet.

The fix for this that has worked so far is to have the DVD player completely powered up (all the way through it's process - including the original sync, signal loss and the second sync).

Then I turn on the video display - in this case it's a projector.

That has worked so far, although I've tried it exactly two times.

I use the player every day, so if this process should fail, I'll find out soon enough. But, if it syncs once, I'm good for the evening.
post #895 of 1008
Have you guys with handshake issues tried setting the player to a fixed resolution instead of Auto?
post #896 of 1008
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Originally Posted by NeedWheels View Post

Is it just me or does this have the noisiest drive/tray I've ever heard on a DVD player? I can hear it change chapters and the startup noise is almost alarming.

My cheap coby dvd player is silent compared to this.

Maybe that's why it was returned/refurbished.

Well I don't have any blu-ray to test yet but the menu sure does look pretty on my computer monitor via HDMI - it's nice that it drives both the component output and HDMI at the same time.

None of my remotes will control it, can't find a working code, so I'll have to wait until Monday to get an RCA.

The splash menu shows netflix, so it's definitely the non -CA.

I wonder why the heck their marketing is so messed up?

Hey, don't leave us on a cliffhanger! Five days later, what are your impressions?
post #897 of 1008
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

Hey, don't leave us on a cliffhanger! Five days later, what are your impressions?

To be hyper-critical for a moment:

Well on my computer screen HDMI it has nice output (2 feet in front of me).

But the component output to my TV (old CRT but large) is obviously worse quality than my 5+ year old $25 Coby DVD player. Perhaps this is because of the noted poor scaler on this unit.

It forgets the resolution mode (480i) and aspect (4:3 letterbox) every time I turn it off. So every time I turn it on, I have to first change the resolution before I can use it. Since it starts in 1080p, I guess it's not a problem for those with real 16:9 HDTV panels that default at 1080p.

The menus are slow and the fonts are entirely too small (no way to adjust, zoom does not work in menus).

There is no way to change real aspect from a single button on the remote, you can change resolution but not cropping framed vs anamorphic. You have to go a few levels deep in the setup menu. This is especially a pain because since it forgets it every time it's powered off, if I forget to change it before going into a movie/netflix/etc. I have to stop everything to change it and then re-start the playback.

DVD zoom level only works in whole numbers, so unlike the $25 coby, there is not a 1.5x zoom to reduce a little of the cropping on very wide films.

Netflix streaming works very nicely, but the frame rate and sound sync seems a little strange in a way I can't quite put my finger on. When the film pans across the scene/room, any vertical lines in the picture "glisten" and pulse in a weird way that hurts my eyes/brain. This might also be from 480i mode and using the component outputs instead of HDMI.

Since I am using a replacement remote, I am NOT having any of the troubles other people have reported, I can control it from across the room, even off walls (not line-of-sight) with this $10 RCA universal remote.

And I mentioned the DVD drive noise, opening and closing and when it's changing chapters is a very loud grind. USB input is silent though of course.

For what little I paid, I can deal with all that.

But I can't imagine people who paid $100+ being perfectly satisfied with all the quirks though. Maybe that's why they have hundreds (thousands?) of refurb units.

Those with VERY large HDTV panels that default to 1080p will probably not complain about many of the problems I listed above. Maybe I can find a deal this black friday on a large panel but since my car is having major problems I doubt I'll be able to afford it this year.
post #898 of 1008
You downloaded and applied all the firmware updates?


Locking the aspect to "16:9 pillarbox" keeps Netflix perfect for me -- but you want 4:3, so I don't know.


The upscaler works fantastic for me on my 60" Sony HDTV. I don't play a lot of Blu-Ray disks, mostly standard DVDs. But they upscale very well. I wish you could get an HDTV, as Blu Ray players really were not meant to work on CRTs. I know this Blu-Ray player has other features as well -- like Netflix and Pandora, but at heart it's a Blu-Ray player. My parents have 3 large CRTs -- which I've bought for them -- and I don't get them a Blu-Ray player as it would be wasted.

Interesting your replacement remote works very well. So, it is a hardware issue! That's my one complaint about my Insignia -- the remote is very flaky. The unit will not respond to commands as well as it should.

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Originally Posted by NeedWheels View Post

To be hyper-critical for a moment:

Well on my computer screen HDMI it has nice output (2 feet in front of me).

But the component output to my TV (old CRT but large) is obviously worse quality than my 5+ year old $25 Coby DVD player. Perhaps this is because of the noted poor scaler on this unit.

It forgets the resolution mode (480i) and aspect (4:3 letterbox) every time I turn it off. So every time I turn it on, I have to first change the resolution before I can use it. Since it starts in 1080p, I guess it's not a problem for those with real 16:9 HDTV panels that default at 1080p.

The menus are slow and the fonts are entirely too small (no way to adjust, zoom does not work in menus).

There is no way to change real aspect from a single button on the remote, you can change resolution but not cropping framed vs anamorphic. You have to go a few levels deep in the setup menu. This is especially a pain because since it forgets it every time it's powered off, if I forget to change it before going into a movie/netflix/etc. I have to stop everything to change it and then re-start the playback.

DVD zoom level only works in whole numbers, so unlike the $25 coby, there is not a 1.5x zoom to reduce a little of the cropping on very wide films.

Netflix streaming works very nicely, but the frame rate and sound sync seems a little strange in a way I can't quite put my finger on. When the film pans across the scene/room, any vertical lines in the picture "glisten" and pulse in a weird way that hurts my eyes/brain. This might also be from 480i mode and using the component outputs instead of HDMI.

Since I am using a replacement remote, I am NOT having any of the troubles other people have reported, I can control it from across the room, even off walls (not line-of-sight) with this $10 RCA universal remote.

And I mentioned the DVD drive noise, opening and closing and when it's changing chapters is a very loud grind. USB input is silent though of course.

For what little I paid, I can deal with all that.

But I can't imagine people who paid $100+ being perfectly satisfied with all the quirks though. Maybe that's why they have hundreds (thousands?) of refurb units.

Those with VERY large HDTV panels that default to 1080p will probably not complain about many of the problems I listed above. Maybe I can find a deal this black friday on a large panel but since my car is having major problems I doubt I'll be able to afford it this year.
post #899 of 1008
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Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post

You downloaded and applied all the firmware updates?

Yup!

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Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post

Locking the aspect to "16:9 pillarbox" keeps Netflix perfect for me -- but you want 4:3, so I don't know.

I believe that's the default. Note I turn mine off with a surge strip so there is zero power, which might kill settings. But my 5+ year old coby must use non-voltile memory to store settings and this doesn't ?

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Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post

The upscaler works fantastic for me on my 60" Sony HDTV.

Technically I guess mine has to "downscale" so maybe that's the weakness.

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Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post

I wish you could get an HDTV, as Blu Ray players really were not meant to work on CRTs.

Well I can use my computer monitor to play with it but it requires like 8 different button pushes (on the monitor) to change to HDMI so it's annoying and then of course I can't use the PC.

Hopefully there will be a LCD vs "new" Plasma price war this year for the holidays that I can take advantage of. But even $300 would need to go into my car over a TV, so we'll see.


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Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post

Interesting your replacement remote works very well. So, it is a hardware issue! That's my one complaint about my Insignia -- the remote is very flaky. The unit will not respond to commands as well as it should.

I can literally keep it on the couch next to me and push buttons, not even hold it in the air, and it's 180 degrees away from the player and it works. But I see some people report it works great on the Insignia forums and others like you, so it may just be a quality control issue.

It's a RCA RCRP05B which is now only $8.50 at my walgreens, check yours. mdavej can help you set it up perfect for the player.

How noisy is your disc tray? Mine is crazy loud and probably why it was returned.

Ironically I don't own a single Blu-Ray disc (yet). Too bad that free disc deal from 2007-2008 is long over.
post #900 of 1008
Ah update on the remote using it at a 180, I just realized I have a mirror on that wall which is probably why that works so well

Still, that's easily over 10 feet given the reflection.
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