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post #241 of 511
Thanks! - That mount I showed you worked great - so simple to install.
post #242 of 511
Hope you are enjoying your new projector ps2!!
post #243 of 511
I have search the manual and can't find this option - any help?

I hope to post photos later on.
post #244 of 511
pg 35 and 36 of the manual. The buttons are also on the projector itself, with trapezoid icons.
post #245 of 511
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47178354@N06/

Loving it. Only problem now is when I change channels. It is like the PJ loses the signal quickly or something.

Also need to set my receiver to 720p, like I read.
post #246 of 511
Does anyone know (from the top of your head) what dia. the screws should be and if they are imperial or metric (for mounting the pj upside down)? I couldn't find anything in the manual.
post #247 of 511
I know it's metric. Think it's M4.
post #248 of 511
Am I in any danger if I run this for 8 hours straight?

Looking to use it for a fantasy draft!
post #249 of 511
Wouldn't worry about it. Just use and enjoy. 5000hr bulb. Cheap to replace. Others may have guidlines about hours of use without a break, don't turn back on within a certain time of shutting it off, etc to maximize bulb life. I bought mine to enjoy. And for the price, if I get half the bulb life I will be happy. Think of how many people leave theirs on to watch multiple sunday football games. 8 hours happens all the time. I'm sure there are many NFL Sunday Ticket subscribers with projectors.
post #250 of 511
Thanks cj!

BTW, My screen came this week (banged up but what can you do, it is UPS) so I will try to post some pictures of how the whole thing looks like. I was hoping to post some pictures with a ND4 filter (on and off) but I am not going to receive it for another two weeks or so. I guess that will be another post.

PS: the 109" Accuscreen is okay. The white, slightly textured screen makes the picture look a bit sharper than projecting it directly onto a wall, but it also makes everything brighter (being white). It does a good job of framing the picture and making you feel more "professional" but aside from that it doesn't do anything else IMO. If you would paint your wall egg-shell grey, you would probably get similar (or better) results.

PS2: my concern about the top-right corner of the picture "lifting" has been solved (noob is, noob does). It seems like whenever the projector is not perfectly squared horizontally (or vertically) it "curves" the image. Sometimes it curves it in the center and sometiems it just 'lifts' the end corner. So I don't think it was my 'warped' wall nor the projector... I think it was me If anyone else can add to that, that would be great.
post #251 of 511
Had my 705 for about a month & this is my first projector. I have found a few things that improved performance.
I use a portable screen & if it's not perfectly aligned the projected image is taller on one side (Epson Duet white not grey)
I use a WD media box with HDMI cable & it keeps reverting to "auto" for output. My first step is to change it to 720p. If I don't it upscales to 1080p (as seen on the projector info menu) & I assume downscales it again. At 720p output I can select "Native" and all is good.
The iris feature helps black levels but I hate the clicking noise & sometimes it seems to make gradual or jumpy brightness changes which of course only I notice. Also that chattering makes it sound like it can't last long without something wearing out.
Yesterday I purchased an ND4 filter from a camera store & used a small wood block with a groove cut in it to mount the filter in front of the lens (table mounted). So far I am very impressed with the results, I did adjust brightness up from -3 to 0 (theatre mode) to compensate & turned the iris feature off. I'd say it's like putting on decent sunglasses on a very bright day & now black is black!
post #252 of 511
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Originally Posted by ps2baseball View Post

Am I in any danger if I run this for 8 hours straight?

Looking to use it for a fantasy draft!

It's not the bulb life that is the issue with leaving it on- it's the heat that it generates and the prolonged exposure of the optics to the heat. Prolonged exposure to heat can prematurely wear the polarizers. I would not do it all the time, but 8 hours is a bit much though. Some projector manuals say 6 hours is the max you should leave it on for.
post #253 of 511
I do not mean you any disrespect skoprowski as I am sure you know alot more about home theater than I do, especially front projection. I have dabbled over the years with various models and I know the basics. I do not doubt what you are saying about the internal heat. For what it's worth, the manual has no limits on continuous use stated. It does have a heat sensor that shuts it down if it gets too hot. In my opinion, it is a $600 projector with a great 2 year warranty. I would enjoy it and not worry about premature wear. I seem to remember from ps2's previous posts that he got it with the intention of watching multiple games on the weekends. I just feel that he should use it for what he wanted and not sweat the little stuff. It's kinda like people that have expensive guitars and never play them for fear of scratching the pickguard. Or owning a Porsche and never getting out of 2nd. The enjoyment factor sometimes gets overshadowed by the "is it ok to" factor.
post #254 of 511
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Originally Posted by jimwilly View Post

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Yesterday I purchased an ND4 filter from a camera store & used a small wood block with a groove cut in it to mount the filter in front of the lens (table mounted). So far I am very impressed with the results, I did adjust brightness up from -3 to 0 (theatre mode) to compensate & turned the iris feature off. I'd say it's like putting on decent sunglasses on a very bright day & now black is black!

Cool! Thanks for the feedback on the ND4 filter. Good to hear. I take it the lens is not threaded, then? Anyway, good to know it helps. When I get my gear out again, I'm gonna try this, too. Have not checked my EX-70 yet to see if it's threaded, but I'm sure I can figure something out to make it work.

Might try ND2 to see if that's enough.

@cjsiv

Agreed, I feel the same way. Best to enjoy it and not worry too much.
post #255 of 511
bron; No the lens has no threads that I can see plus it's curved like an eyeball & moves in and out so there is little clearance in there for a filter.

The one I purchased is about 3" square & meant to fit into a special camera lens adapter. The ND4 is pretty dark, I suppose when the bulb ages I could go to ND2.

In a perfect world it would integrated into the projector like the lens cover door is & be motorized too.
post #256 of 511
well here I am finally part of this thread ... november 2009 I decide to buy my first projector... 2-3 weeks I was searching on the net and in the end i had to choose between 705HD and HD65....may be the most common reasons to choose 705HD was that is a 2 years newer which is important i believe and second because epson is number one in this technology...
I still dont have screen actually... just watching on simple white wall hopefully soon i'll do my DIY screen

So i'm new in this things but however i like the colors and the contrast a lot... but unfortunately its very bright while i'm watching movies and in some dark moments from the movie its very annoying... I like the idea about ND filters and i'll try it next week. Its very simple solution of the problem so I hope will work for me too. Last week i watched Man Utd vs Bayern M in HD broadcast 720p from the satellite and the picture was gorgeous!!! So DYI screen like Silver Fire may be and ND2 Filter will change everything!

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Originally Posted by BKSRU View Post

The projector budgetary, therefore is required the jeweller approach.
Filter ND will lower brightness to comprehensible value.
It is necessary qualitative ND.
Recommended the filter of firms MARUMI and KENKO.
Filter HOYA is not recommended. Colours changes.

man i've search on ebay but it seems that Kenko and Hoya are the same firms?
post #257 of 511
The ND4 filter I have is a "cokin" (made in France), it does not seem to affect the colours.
I have also noticed DIVX compression artifacts are less visible in bright scenes with the filter in place or maybe it's just the reduced brightness, not sure.
post #258 of 511
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Originally Posted by jimwilly View Post

bron; No the lens has no threads that I can see plus it's curved like an eyeball & moves in and out so there is little clearance in there for a filter.

The one I purchased is about 3" square & meant to fit into a special camera lens adapter. The ND4 is pretty dark, I suppose when the bulb ages I could go to ND2.

In a perfect world it would integrated into the projector like the lens cover door is & be motorized too.

Thanks for the info. I guess out in front is fine. Means I may need to buy a bigger filter like the one you got, so good to know.
post #259 of 511
Okay, as promised, here are some pictures of the projector, the screen (Accuscreen 16:10 - 109") and the ND4 filter (Marumi 62mm). The projector isn't ceiling mounted yet, nor the room is painted the way I want, but that will be the next step.

Attached are screens of same images with no ND4 filter (1st shot) and with ND4 filter (2nd shot). I am not much of a photographer, but I did try my best with my point and shoot camera on a tripod.

The pictures were taken in a pitch black room.

To comment on the Marumi ND4 filter, I have noticed that it does slightly change the image color on the screen, it gives it a bit more of an orange hue (best seen on the Band of Brothers screen with the Jeep). It is not a big deal but I thought that I will point it out.

With the ND4 filter on, the picture looks more like the projector is in "cinema mode". All the shots were taken in the 'dynamic' setting with brightness=0, contrast=3, sharpness=2, color=0, eco mode, auto iris off. The source was a PS3 and HDMI cable (regular DVDs).

Overall the ND4 does help with the black levels a lot. As we know, it doesn't do anything to the contrast of the image, however, what it does do very well is to tone down the brutal brightness of the projector which at times overpowers the screen (crushes blacks). I have noticed this to be the same as with LCD TVs. Watching them in a pitch black room or with a room with one light on, the black levels never looked good. The ND4 filter acts the same way as turning down the back-light in your LCD TV - your whites don't look as white but your blacks look darker.

With time, the ND4 will have to go probably, replaced with an ND2, but I will cross that bridge when I get there. As a side note, the ND4 filter also helps with eye strain, which I have noticed after 1.5h of watching a move, due to the brightness of the projector.

Overall, the ND4 is a good addition to this type of a PJ. If you have the extra $20, spend it on a ND4 (or ND2) filter.

You can find my pics here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/10652155...927/EpsonEX71#

PS: The yellow stuff that I have used to attach the filter to the PJ is a blue-tak-like material made by the same people who made Crazy Glue. I don't have the name of it as I have thrown out the package, but I got it at Michael's - it was like $3. It is basically a play-dough-like material that "holds stuff" For now it works, maybe later I will try to come up with a 'pretty-er' solution.

PS2: I have taken some of my shots on purpose (like of the bloody gladiator) so that you can compare them to some of the other screens posted here by guys with Optomas (ex: the HD65).

PS3: I know that my pics don't do justice to the projector, the images look way better in real life, but I just wanted to show the after effect of using the ND4 filter.
post #260 of 511
Excellent! I'll buy ND filter too!

It's seems nd4 make very good job! why you planning to change it with nd2?

I like the yellow stuff a lot! very clean work!
post #261 of 511
@ Vao

I would only get the ND2 filter after like 2000h on the bulb; when it darkens a bit. But like I said, I will decide on what do to when it happens. I have like 20h on the bulb so I have a long way to go.
post #262 of 511
I see..

I'm planning to make the screen gray using black widow or silver fire DIY formulas so may be its better for me to buy just ND2 how BKSRU said...
post #263 of 511
Great job, toxic_rage! And the pictures weren't bad at all. They showed the effect very well. The yellow stuff didn't look too bad and it seems to do the job. Thanks a lot for sharing this, it's very helpful. I'm definitely going to get one (or both) myself after seeing this.

(And thanks again BKSRU for the tip!)
post #264 of 511
I'm glad you guys found my comments/pictures useful. Just trying to shed some light on some of the 'gray areas' surrounding this PJ. Like I said before, for $600 plus the cost of an ND4 (or ND2) filter, depending on your lighting conditions, you can't go wrong.

BTW, positioning the filter thread towards the lens or towards the screen doesn't make any difference on the picture (none that I could see), so attach it to the PJ the way you like best.

Cheers!

PS: Thanks BKSRU for the ND4 tip!
post #265 of 511
Just a few more comments;

I use the HDMI range "normal", the expanded setting seemed to hurt black levels.

A previous post suggested bumping up the blue level to make whites less harsh looking, I like the effect & leave mine that way.

The picture of the cadillac rear in toxic rages' post really shows the benefit of the ND4 filter. I have found however my filter seems to act like a dust magnet so I would be reluctant to stick one onto the projector & get dust underneath?

The main benefit of ND4 is I've stopped fiddling with the projector settings & started just enjoying the movie.
post #266 of 511
@ jimwilly

I think dust is attracted to all surfaces but you see it best on glass, illuminated surfaces. And with PJs, it looks like the lens is sucking in all the dust like a vacuum cleaner! Even so, I don't see any image degradation for now. When the time comes, I can just detach the filter and clean the PJ's lens and the ND4 filter.

When it comes to tweaking the picture, I did calibrate it quickly using an old AVIA calibration DVD but mainly I wanted to check the black levels and contrast. I didn't do anything with the hues (ex. getting more blue hues to get better black levels). For now everything looks darn good to me so I just enjoy watching movies!
post #267 of 511
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The main benefit of ND4 is I've stopped fiddling with the projector settings & started just enjoying the movie.

And that's a pretty, darn good benefit!

Thanks for giving us yet more feedback on the use of the ND filter, jimwally and the blue level tip. I must have missed that one.
post #268 of 511
So I wasn't sure how I would like it, but I jumped on the ND4 bandwagon. Best Buy had them on sale so I figured if I didn't like it, I could take it back. Brought it home and popped it on. Initially, I wasn't too fond. I was missing my brightness. Played for a few minutes, took it off, and forgot about it for the rest of the day. This morning I had some time to play before work. Put it back on and calibrated with a THX optimizer from a standard dvd. Popped in Casino Royale and tweaked a little. Holy crap!! I love it. It tames the brightness and makes the blacks much, much better. My wife had been working on the other side of the room with a light on before so it kinda washed things a little. The ND filter is definitely for the dark cinema experience. More than a little ambient light and it really screws things up. But in a dark room....wow! I tweaked the theater setting for the filter and left my dynamic setting for my normal watching with a light on. Now I have the best of both worlds. If I want to watch tv, play games, or have a light on I use dynamic w/o filter. If I want the dark, movie theater experience, I just pop the filter on and change to theater setting.

I attached the filter with two thin strips of velcro. Works great. Included some pics. (Wife took the good slr with her. These are some point and shoot pics so may not be the best.) I love the built in lens cover. I can attach the filter, then open the door. When I'm done, I shut the door then remove the filter. This way I'm not screwing around fitting anything with the projector lens exposed.

My opinion now could not be higher. This takes versatility to another level. Cheap price. Epson warranty. Light canon. 5000 hr bulb. No rainbows. Small and light. Awesome picture in light or dark room.

I could not be happier if I had spent 3 times as much.

Many, many thanks to toxic rage for taking the time to post the pics. Your comparison pushed me to try it out and I am so, so glad I did. This thing is freakin' awesome. I don't have to choose between a multi purpose or a dedicated theater projector. One $15 add on and I get both. I hereby, officially dub thee:

The Epson 705UB......Oh yeah....Ultra Black baby!!!!
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post #269 of 511
@ cjsiv

Thank BKSRU for the tip, I was just a noob following some advise - which worked I am glad that you like the filter, I think it is great. I will also try the velcro solution that you have proposed. I think it looks fantastic.
post #270 of 511
cjsiv did you use glue to attach the velcro tot he projector? Or just the adhesive that comes on the back?

After playing with the ND4 I want to get an ND2 to have in my arsenal for the times when I'm not in a completely dark room.

With the ND filters attached this projector really is versatile. I couldn't help but read more reviews after I had bought my projector last week and there were moments when I was questioning my purchase (not really) but when compared with other projectors in its price range the cheap and long life bulb is impossible to beat, and the 2 year warranty is amazing. They will send out a replacement within 24hrs or a repair. That is insane for a $700 machine.
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