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post #331 of 511
Yep. It's just a plain white screen. If you have a best buy near you, they have been carrying a nd4 filter for around $15. If it's too dark, you can always return it. That was my logic.
post #332 of 511
I'll get my 705hd tomorrow.
post #333 of 511
dose it have a fan in back that requires it to have space between wall and itself? i ask because my room is very small only 11' deep so its gonna be a tight fit. and im planning on getting a 85" elite cinema235. also, when i switch to a 16:9 movie how hard will it be to change the lens distance etc. to make it fit with pillars on each side? oh and are all nd4 filters the same size, will any one work?
post #334 of 511
Vents are on the front and side. ND4 filters come in different sizes as they are designed for camera lenses therefore they have different diameters. The filtering should be the same though. I would pick either 16:9 or 4:3 and stick with it (16:9 nowadays) as the 705 doesn't have a great zoom on it. Check out the calculator at projectorcentral.com:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epso...ulator-pro.htm
post #335 of 511
I've taken the time to take some pictures last night, spent about 2h on it, but the pictures came out looking like (beep). I don't know why, I had the point and shoot on manual setup - pretty well configured (so I thought) - checked even a sample shot on my laptop and it looked okay. Everything came out dark and with a grid. Anyhow, full auto is the way to go for me I guess.

I won't be participating in the "screenshot war" forum but would like to see other people's shots though.
post #336 of 511
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Originally Posted by cjsiv View Post

Vents are on the front and side. ND4 filters come in different sizes as they are designed for camera lenses therefore they have different diameters. The filtering should be the same though. I would pick either 16:9 or 4:3 and stick with it (16:9 nowadays) as the 705 doesn't have a great zoom on it. Check out the calculator at projectorcentral.com:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epso...ulator-pro.htm

so youre saying it would not be practical to use 2.35 screen with this proj?
post #337 of 511
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Originally Posted by ooms View Post

so youre saying it would not be practical to use 2.35 screen with this proj?

Sorry. I had a moment of confusion there. For some reason I was thinking 4:3 not 2:35. Some people are into old films and want to watch them in their original aspect full frame ratio, but also want widescreen. I apologize for that. I don't have any experience with 2:35 setups so I won't be any help. The 705 is a 16:10 native projector though, so I'm not sure if the light "overshoot" would be a problem with the 2:35 setup. If you figure it out, please share your info.
post #338 of 511
since I have a white screen I was going to snag an ND4 filter from Bestbuy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sunpak+-...lter&cp=1&lp=1

and was wondering how do you attach it to the projector??? the projector lens is sunk back and doesn't appear to be threaded as it is
post #339 of 511
You just use velcro or this play-dough like 3M product to hang posters/pictures, which can be found in craft stores, to attach the filter to the body of the projector. If you browse through previous pages you will see some pictures. I am sure there are other ways but these are the easiest/cleanest.
post #340 of 511
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Originally Posted by toxic_rage View Post

You just use velcro or this play-dough like 3M product to hang posters/pictures, which can be found in craft stores, to attach the filter to the body of the projector. If you browse through previous pages you will see some pictures. I am sure there are other ways but these are the easiest/cleanest.

ahh, basically sticky tack from what you're describing. Thanks.... I'm "lens illiterate" so can someone describe the difference between these 2 ND4 lenses???

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sunpak+-...lter&cp=1&lp=2

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sunpak+-...lter&cp=1&lp=1
post #341 of 511
It seems like the only difference is size - just like with tires, you pay more for a larger tire.

I think the 62mm lenses work best for this pj - covers the opening very nicely.
post #342 of 511
Yeah. 62mm is best for our pj. I bought from ebay a 62mm ND2 and ND4. I stay with the ND4 because i still don't have screen and i use just simple white wall.

I was wondering is there anyone who had tried the projector with anamorphic lense on 2:35:1 ratio...?
post #343 of 511
Have an Epson EX 70 and tried a nd4 and although I like the way it made the image more "filmlike" I found it a little too dark..Gonna try an nd2 if I can find one locally...

Would a cpl filter work as well ? I read it pretty much does the same thing, with colors and contrast,but when I compared it to the nd4 it was not nearly as "tinted", what do you guys think ?

brickie
post #344 of 511
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Originally Posted by brickie View Post

Have an Epson EX 70 and tried a nd4 and although I like the way it made the image more "filmlike" I found it a little too dark..Gonna try an nd2 if I can find one locally...

Would a cpl filter work as well ? I read it pretty much does the same thing, with colors and contrast,but when I compared it to the nd4 it was not nearly as "tinted", what do you guys think ?

brickie

Yes, I think it would be worth a try and it has the advantage of being adjustable as well. Give it a shot and let us know how it works. Only real life experience will tell, I think.
post #345 of 511
Well it didn't work great..Color shift was very extreme! Actually I turned it around backwards and it worked best that way..

What would be the "brightest" ND filter that I could buy? ND 1? I really like the film like look the picture takes on and the colors and blacks get great, but woul just prefer a little more light.Using a 110" x 66" screen, of BOC. Don't want to paint it grey.According to projector central iv'e got 20 ft lamberts at screen, and using nd 4 reduced this to 10,correct. Got to be a filter that will keep me in the 15ish range..lmk

brickie
post #346 of 511
Which setting are you using with the filter. I use the Living room setting when I calibrate mine for the nd4 filter. Either it or dynamic would work. Different settings are brighter than others. Theater mode puts out the least lumens. Make sure you are using one of the brighter settings when you calibrate. I did not like the theater mode with it. Was definitely too dark. Dynamic and living room were just right for me. I have dynamic calibrated for watching with lights on and living room calibrated for lights off with the filter. Just switch back and forth between the two. If you still don't like the results, then you would need to switch to another filter.
post #347 of 511
I've seen 0.6 and 0.9 ND filters - theoretically they can be any strength. Most people have said ND 2 worked best for them. Also, as cjsiv points out, you can vary the projector brightness as well.
post #348 of 511
I am not a photographer by any means, so this is new to me. I'll share just to clear up any confusion. See this link:

http://www.photofilter.com/neutral_density.htm

So .3 is the same as ND2

.6 is the same as ND4. Varies by manufacturer..So you could get a Tiffen ND2 (labeled as .3) from amazon for $17.

http://www.amazon.com/Tiffen-58mm-Ne...096634&sr=8-11

Hope this helps. I learned something new today. Probably order one just to see how I like the nd2. Wouldn't hurt to have on hand when bulb dims.
post #349 of 511
Thanks, cjsiv, very helpful info.
post #350 of 511
just got an ex71 and for my first projector very happy with it..

i find it's a little noisy sometimes though is that normal?

also what's the best way to mount it? as far back as possible in order to get the largest screen at 2:35:1 ratio?

if i get a filter i wouldn't need to paint the screen right?

i don't really know what colours are good or not... put i'm pretty happy with this current setup

post #351 of 511
I just bought a 705HD and getting ready to purchase or make a screen for it. Something around 92-100". I am somewhat confused as what the difference will be since this is a native 16:10 instead of 16:9 resolution. Is there any way to set the projector for 16:9 material or will there always be image spill onto a standard 16:9 screen? Thanks!
post #352 of 511
Nice!! I have an Ex 70 and agree for the money they are great projectors!! God of war looks great in that screen shot..

Actually I just built my screen a few weeks back from Carls boc. Which I highly recommend by the way,and I made a mistake and built 16:10. Basically I get about 3 inches at top and bottom where image doesn't fill screen. I just use "full" to stretch it out to do so.Looks great and really like the way the black border makes the image pop. I would suggest to build 16:9 and the border will absorb any spill.

What rez are you guys feeding yours? I use 1280X720 even though my htpc reports i'm not using optimal resolution , and suggests switching to 1920X 1080. I have tried this but on tests 720p appears to be a little bit better to me as well as I read it's always better to run native. I know, I tried 1280x800 but once again the sweet spot appears to be 1280x720..Your thoughts?

As for filters i tried a ND4 and the blacks did get nicer but image was just too dark for my taste.Still looking for an ND 2 or even an ND 1.

brickie
post #353 of 511
brickie, I am sending 720p to the projector. If I bought or made a 16:9 screen, how much image would spill onto the border? Would it just be black bars spilling or the actual picture? thanks.
post #354 of 511
The image spill will be not be image, but kind of a "light overshoot" if you will. Basically, if you get a 16:9 screen you will have an extra inch or two of light above and below the frame. If you get a screen with a wide enough frame to it, the overshoot falls onto the black frame and is not noticeable. I have a pull down screen so the image spills onto the top black area and the metal casing. On the bottom, it spills onto the black border. With my particular setup, the 16:10 factor is irrelevant. Your image will be 16:9. Just make sure you have a wide enough border for the overshoot and you are all good either bought, built, or painted on.
post #355 of 511
16:9 with spill over got!!! i was unsure of what screen res to go for...
post #356 of 511
My borders are 2x4's the 3 1/2" way so spill over gets absorbed by my wide black border...Since i'm using a 16:10 screen, I just dial the picture to just touch or spill unto the borders..

As far as what resolution to run,I'd say try all available to you to see what you like.For me, 720p seems to be the sweet spot for the EX70.

brickie
post #357 of 511
Ok, I think I understand about the aspect ratio. I think I may build (or paint) a screen and make it 16:10 dimensions so I don't have much or any light spillage. Thanks again for the help and info.
post #358 of 511
Actually to do it over I would build a 16:9 screen, to keep from having to use the "full" function on the projector. It really is not a big deal, but I would go 16:9 and let my 3 1/2" black borders absorb the bars..

If you can mask(masking tape on wall) both screens to see what you feel works best for you, this would probably help you out big time...Eventually I will go scope,not with this projector though, but I still hate the bars on 16:9 material or movies which is why I "zoom" them out.

brickie
post #359 of 511
So you are saying that there will be bars no matter if I have a 16:10 or a 16:9 screen? My previous projector did not have any bars when displaying 16:9 aspect content. Movies however, if they were shot in CinemaScope had large bars at the top and bottom of the screen.
post #360 of 511
Because I built my screen 16:10 106x66" viewable area when I watch a perfect 16:9 movie or HDTV I get around 3" bars or so on the top and bottom of screen .Because I don't like this I "zoom"(can't remember what setting is called exactly) on my projector to stretch the pic and eliminate the bars...EX 70 is a 16:10 projector and there are no movies in 16:10...

That's why I say I would do a 16:9 screen to do it over therefore on HDTV or 16:9 movies it would fit the screen perfect without ANY manipulation, and my 3 1/2" black masking around screen would absorb the black bars. You are essentially doing what many of us do with htpc's when we say we are running a res with in a res..

Will try to take a pic so you can see exactly what I mean..

brickie
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