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post #61 of 511
I ordered the 705HD last night, couldn't wait for art's review as all the online stores* are jacking up their prices to $850+ only one store still had it for $776. It's a gamble but I have a feeling the odds are in my favor considering there is more + than - about this projector. Plus it's my first projector, anything will be better than my dying 25 year old 27" Hitachi tube.

*note: i'm in canada

I'll post up my feedback on it once I get it next week
post #62 of 511
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Originally Posted by K-ESD View Post

I ordered the 705HD last night, couldn't wait for art's review as all the online stores* are jacking up their prices to $850+ only one store still had it for $776. It's a gamble but I have a feeling the odds are in my favor considering there is more + than - about this projector. Plus it's my first projector, anything will be better than my dying 25 year old 27" Hitachi tube.

*note: i'm in canada

I'll post up my feedback on it once I get it next week

This will make an awesome first projector. You should love it. You are going to be amazed at how good an image you'll get. Set it up. Enjoy it. Post your feedback. Then, as someone advised me here when I got my first projector, stop coming here and reading these forums for awhile! (It was good advice.)

Enjoy!
post #63 of 511
I currently have a Hitachi 720p lcd projector that was introduced in 2004. It has 1200 lumens and 1200:1 contrast ratio. I have been extremely happy with it. The Epson 705HD eclipses it in lumens, contrast ratio and bulb life. I can only assume it looks as good or better then my Hitachi. I don't see why it wouldn't produce a good picture for most people. If something would happen to my current projector and I would have to replace it, I would probably get the 705HD as I currently have other priorities right now that I need to spend $$ on, not 2 grand on a projector. The only challenge I see with the Epson is the lack of lens shift, which really just means you have to spend more effort setting it up.
post #64 of 511
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Originally Posted by SKoprowski View Post

I currently have a Hitachi 720p lcd projector that was introduced in 2004. It has 1200 lumens and 1200:1 contrast ratio. I have been extremely happy with it. The Epson 705HD eclipses it in lumens, contrast ratio and bulb life. I can only assume it looks as good or better then my Hitachi. I don't see why it wouldn't produce a good picture for most people. If something would happen to my current projector and I would have to replace it, I would probably get the 705HD as I currently have other priorities right now that I need to spend $$ on, not 2 grand on a projector. The only challenge I see with the Epson is the lack of lens shift, which really just means you have to spend more effort setting it up.


If I remember correctly, back in 2004, they hadn't started with the crazy dynamic contrast ratio specs yet... So the 1200:1 probably meant something at least.

The 3000:1 dynamic contrast on the 705HD is pretty much meaningless. It's much closer to something like 500:1 at best. Keep your Hitachi and hope you don't have to get this.

The Epson 705 is most certainly a presentation projector and far from a real home theater quality.
post #65 of 511
Projector review just posted up their review, reading now
post #66 of 511
I've had my 705hd going on a month. it's my first PJ, and the first day i was sick to my stomach cause of the black levels and such. but i hooked it up to my computer, and changed all the setting with my video card. now im alot happier to the point. i haven't touched my lcd in weeks lol.
post #67 of 511
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Originally Posted by bobbyslav View Post

If I remember correctly, back in 2004, they hadn't started with the crazy dynamic contrast ratio specs yet... So the 1200:1 probably meant something at least.

The 3000:1 dynamic contrast on the 705HD is pretty much meaningless. It's much closer to something like 500:1 at best. Keep your Hitachi and hope you don't have to get this.

The Epson 705 is most certainly a presentation projector and far from a real home theater quality.

No quibble with the games being played w/CR's these days, but for the price the 705HD and others like it are certainly a lot of fun. As good as the 1080UB? Of course not. But the image is perfectly watchable and if you're more interested in having fun and enjoying yourself than obsessing about black levels, it's a great choice.

If you want something you can set-up just about anywhere without having blackout curtains and still enjoy, then it's a real winner. Yes, inky blacks are wonderful, but it's amazing how well the brain adapts to less than perfect.

It's ease of use and feature set are very good for the price. The bright image has its pluses, too. About the only thing really lacking is the lens shift feature, and you can certainly live with that. The great Epson warranty, low bulb cost and long bulb life, super portability, easy photo sideshows. There's a lot to like.

Not the choice for the enthusiast or serious HT buff, true, but there are a lot of people who just want to get in the game and enjoy that large cinema screen experience without spending and arm and a leg. For them, it's great.
Not everyone can afford $2-3k projectors or even $1k. Especially in this economy. Some of us have to make do with less. The good news for those of us who do, is that, overall, we're the ones getting the best "fun per dollars spent" ratios!
post #68 of 511
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Originally Posted by bron View Post

Not everyone can afford $2-3k projectors or even $1k. Especially in this economy. Some of us have to make do with less. The good news for those of us who do, is that, overall, we're the ones getting the best "fun per dollars spent" ratios!


I don't think anyone is comparing it to a $2000-3000 projectors. Personally I am comparing it to a $500 SVGA LG HS201 projector, and I find the LG's picture infinitely more satisfying.

If lots of lumens are the big issue (I guess it's ok to obsess about brightness, but not about contrast ratio!?), I still think that a $650 dollar Optoma HD65, or any of the other DLP business projectors will have a better picture than this.
post #69 of 511
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Originally Posted by K-ESD View Post

Projector review just posted up their review, reading now

it has got great reviews at testseek.com, both projectorreviews.com and projectorcentral. Both sites gave it awards.

I am still not sure about it though...

Anders
post #70 of 511
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Originally Posted by K-ESD View Post

I ordered the 705HD last night, couldn't wait for art's review as all the online stores* are jacking up their prices to $850+ only one store still had it for $776. It's a gamble but I have a feeling the odds are in my favor considering there is more + than - about this projector. Plus it's my first projector, anything will be better than my dying 25 year old 27" Hitachi tube.

*note: i'm in canada

I'll post up my feedback on it once I get it next week

It's next week. Did you get this yet?
post #71 of 511
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Originally Posted by bobbyslav View Post

I don't think anyone is comparing it to a $2000-3000 projectors. Personally I am comparing it to a $500 SVGA LG HS201 projector, and I find the LG's picture infinitely more satisfying.

If lots of lumens are the big issue (I guess it's ok to obsess about brightness, but not about contrast ratio!?), I still think that a $650 dollar Optoma HD65, or any of the other DLP business projectors will have a better picture than this.

I'm not obsessing about anything other than the fun you can have with this projector.

All the ones you mention are probably fine choices as well, I just prefer Epson's line myself. Different strokes for different folks. The only reason I commented at all is because I hate to see people "scared off" by all the back and forth here over black levels and this and that. The real truth is, nearly any of these projectors is better than no projector! Maybe we can agree on that.
post #72 of 511
So...I pulled the trigger on one of these today. The wife actually gave me the ok on the 8100 but I couldn't bring myself to drop $1500 bucks on a projector. Not now anyway. I see there isn't much love for the 705 on here but all the other reviews I have read have been very favorable. The last projector I owned was an Infocus X1 so I am guessing I will really like this one in comparison. I tried the hc1600 and the optoma hd71 and for some reason hidef dlp just kills me with rainbows. I will post my opinions when I get it set up next weekend. I just find it hard to believe that projector reviews, projector central and the user reviews at amazon and best buy all seem to love it but there is not alot positive here...Guess I'll find out for myself next week.
post #73 of 511
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Originally Posted by cjsiv View Post

So...I pulled the trigger on one of these today. The wife actually gave me the ok on the 8100 but I couldn't bring myself to drop $1500 bucks on a projector. Not now anyway. I see there isn't much love for the 705 on here but all the other reviews I have read have been very favorable. The last projector I owned was an Infocus X1 so I am guessing I will really like this one in comparison. I tried the hc1600 and the optoma hd71 and for some reason hidef dlp just kills me with rainbows. I will post my opinions when I get it set up next weekend. I just find it hard to believe that projector reviews, projector central and the user reviews at amazon and best buy all seem to love it but there is not alot positive here...Guess I'll find out for myself next week.

Will look forward to your assessment. The X1 was actually a pretty good projector in its day, from what I've read. I agree that this and other LCD units have a hard time of it here. Most seem to prefer the DLP's because of their better black levels and such. And a lot of the posters here are hard-core enthusiasts who take this stuff very, very seriously. That's all fine, but it does mean than some of the less than perfect, but perfectly fine, projectors get a harder time of it here than they deserve (IMHO).

A case in point, I have a friend with an older Epson (an HC 10+, 480p, 800:1 CR) -- not exactly top specs. He has a nice light-controlled setup in his basement and often has people over to watch movies. The "screen door" effect is very visible, I've seen sharper images, he projects it way big (i.e. larger than recommended), and he hasn't tweaked a setting yet. Almost anyone here would be shaking their heads sadly by this time.

Yet, I have been over on those evenings and have had a great time, enjoyed the movie, and found that even under these pretty much worst case conditions, it was a very enjoyable experience. I usually forget about the screen door, black levels, and all the rest as soon as I become engrossed in the movie. All the other guests seem very happy with it as well and rave about how nice/cool it is, and so on and so on. (I started out with an Epson HC 20 with similar specs, just a tad better. Still love it - paid $400 for it and consider it to have been one of the best deals ever.)

The next time you go to a commercial Cinema, take a moment and walk down front and inspect the image, black levels, and so on. You'll be surprised, I think. If you compare side-by-side, the better projectors definitely have their pluses. But once you're watching a movie, it's amazing how well the brain adapts.

I used to take these things a lot more seriously myself. Now, I just relax and try to enjoy the movie.
post #74 of 511
Excellent post !! I was one of the first to buy the 705HD and post here in October 2009. Since then I've used the 705 almost every day, and, for the price, am completely happy with it. Being a retired engineer, it's easy to find the faults, as one could do with any entry level projector, but in using the projector daily, the enjoyment transcends the faults. I just upgraded the video card in my PC, and am now streaming video from Hulu and Netflix onto the big screen, as well as occasionally using it as a computer monitor. My advice to anyone who is considering a projector is to dive in and get your feet wet.
post #75 of 511
The reason I chose the hd705 is that in our family room downstairs where I have my setup, I hate being in the pitch black all the time. I like a little ambient light when playing video games, watching tv, etc. And with a 3 and 5 year old, they hurt themselves rather easily in a room where the only light is from the projector (furniture, end tables, toys, etc). My X1 got all of 300 hours of use in the 4 years I had it due to that fact. Although my wife and I both loved it, it was just hard to find "us time" where I could kill the lights and crank up the sound. I also already have a $1500 plasma in the same room making it hard to justify another $1500 for the HC8100. In my case, I am exactly the audience this thing was designed for. My room isn't exactly a dedicated home theater, but I did do all the work myself and designed it with a tv and projector in mind. When the x1 went down, I wall mounted my plasma. Now with the 705, I am doing some minor surgery to the ol' family room adding a concealed pull down screen above the plasma so both displays will be on the same wall. They used to be on adjacent walls. That way I can use the surround sound on either. Just ordered my cables, screen, and monoprice switcher this weekend. I am really excited to get started on this project. It combines my two favorite things...electronics and woodworking (my walls are tongue and groove hardwood).
post #76 of 511
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Originally Posted by rcschmie View Post

Excellent post !! I was one of the first to buy the 705HD and post here in October 2009. Since then I've used the 705 almost every day, and, for the price, am completely happy with it. Being a retired engineer, it's easy to find the faults, as one could do with any entry level projector, but in using the projector daily, the enjoyment transcends the faults. I just upgraded the video card in my PC, and am now streaming video from Hulu and Netflix onto the big screen, as well as occasionally using it as a computer monitor. My advice to anyone who is considering a projector is to dive in and get your feet wet.

Thanks! One of this units strengths is its flexibility. You got it, the virtues outweigh the flaws (for most people).

And the superior Epson Customer service and warranty is a real plus not to be over-looked. That was a big draw for me and one of the reasons I remain a loyal Epson customer.
post #77 of 511
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Originally Posted by cjsiv View Post

The reason I chose the hd705 is that in our family room downstairs where I have my setup, I hate being in the pitch black all the time. I like a little ambient light when playing video games, watching tv, etc. And with a 3 and 5 year old, they hurt themselves rather easily in a room where the only light is from the projector (furniture, end tables, toys, etc). My X1 got all of 300 hours of use in the 4 years I had it due to that fact. Although my wife and I both loved it, it was just hard to find "us time" where I could kill the lights and crank up the sound. I also already have a $1500 plasma in the same room making it hard to justify another $1500 for the HC8100. In my case, I am exactly the audience this thing was designed for. My room isn't exactly a dedicated home theater, but I did do all the work myself and designed it with a tv and projector in mind. When the x1 went down, I wall mounted my plasma. Now with the 705, I am doing some minor surgery to the ol' family room adding a concealed pull down screen above the plasma so both displays will be on the same wall. They used to be on adjacent walls. That way I can use the surround sound on either. Just ordered my cables, screen, and monoprice switcher this weekend. I am really excited to get started on this project. It combines my two favorite things...electronics and woodworking (my walls are tongue and groove hardwood).

Ah, I wish I had those skills...

"In my case, I am exactly the audience this thing was designed for." -- sounds like it!

Strength is that it's a great all-around general purpose projector that can do many things. Very "family" oriented. A great "family movies" unit, which I don't think has been mentioned yet. Can set it up and watch nearly anywhere. Even on a wall if you have to.

Good luck with your project!
post #78 of 511
Great info on this thread. I am in the process of creating an outdoor theater. I am interested in this pj for a few reasons. Its high lumen, and per projector centrals calculator it will fit my 16'x9' screen from it being about 23-25ft away. I am a member at BYT forums and no one has this pj. Just wondering for any of you that do if you think it would work for an outdoor setting.

Thanks for any help
post #79 of 511
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Originally Posted by cemeb4dk View Post

Great info on this thread. I am in the process of creating an outdoor theater. I am interested in this pj for a few reasons. Its high lumen, and per projector centrals calculator it will fit my 16'x9' screen from it being about 23-25ft away. I am a member at BYT forums and no one has this pj. Just wondering for any of you that do if you think it would work for an outdoor setting.

Thanks for any help

Well, Epson's calculator says 21 ft, but close enough, I guess. I don't see any reason why this would not work for an outdoor setup. Certainly is bright enough.
post #80 of 511
So the HD705 showed up today along with my screen and 50ft hdmi cable. Still waiting on the mount and hdmi switch which should be here friday. Couldn't wait so I took a quick look on the living room wall since my screen isn't up yet. The kids were still awake so I popped in their G-Force bluray and hooked it up via hdmi. Here's my first impression:

Yes, black levels are not spectacular....but not too bad either. For a $600 projector (sale!) it looks pretty darn good. I really didn't get to play with the menus much so I just cycled the presets. I could tell my wife was getting irritated every time I put the menu up in the middle of the screen. I did put it into eco mode which really quieted it down. There was excessive light overshooting the image because of the angle and keystone. I assume this will change quite a bit once I mount and place it correctly. I think this actually made the blacks seem worse since there was no border and all of the light just spilled onto the white wall. Like I said, I do think it will be much better when set up properly.

Colors are great. I am assuming more vibrant and a little more "pop" once it's on my screen. Like I said, these are out of the box settings on a flat white wall. I haven't got to play much with it yet.

Minimal screen door. I was quite surprised. Even two feet from it, it was way, way, way better than my old Infocus X1.

I did have the kitchen light on spilling into the living room and it really had minimal effect. This projector is bright but not too bright. It is by no means a hard core home theater projector. It is a pretty good multimedia projector though. I cant wait to try some Uncharted 2 on it. I was expecting the worst based off of what some people had said, but was pleasantly surprised. A gray screen probably would darken the blacks a little. The movie was in letterbox and the black bars were more gray than black. The image itself looked quite good though. As of right now, I am pretty happy with my decision. If I had money to burn, I would have gotten the HC8100. But, I seem to be relatively happy with the 705 and an extra grand in my pocket.

I will give my full impression after I get everything set up. Hoping to have it done by Monday. So far I am pretty pleased, though. I will post some pics too. If you are just wanting the "big picture" for not a lot of cash, you could do much, much worse than the 705. The cost to fun factor is pretty amazing. And no rainbows......
post #81 of 511
Congrats! Sounds promising so far. Will look forward to your impressions once you get it all setup the way you want it.
post #82 of 511
Sounds good so far cj, can you tell me where you found for $600. Thats a hundred cheaper than I found. You can Pm me if you want

Thanks
post #83 of 511
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Originally Posted by cjsiv View Post

Minimal screen door. I was quite surprised. Even two feet from it, it was way, way, way better than my old Infocus X1.

Thanks for the update. What was the size of the image were you projecting? Is the screen door visible beyond two feet?

Look forward to some screen shots of your setup.
post #84 of 511
It was a real quick look before I boxed it back up and took it downstairs just on my wall. Not for sure how big the image was. Rough guess maybe 70-80 inches. I'm gonna wait for my final setup to really give some feedback. Hoping to be done by monday. I'll try to post some pics too.
post #85 of 511
Should be done with my install tonight. Actually decided on placement last night (that was really the hardest part). Tried out all the new cables and got my switch integrated to run both displays. Looking forward to being done. At least I'll have it in time for the super bowl.
post #86 of 511
Nice, looking forward to your full review, hope the instal goes smoothly for you. I order mine Next Friday
post #87 of 511
Hey guys,

I'm just getting started with the HT situation, and have been creeping these forums for a few weeks now. Obviously extremely impressed with all of your setups!

I have had the 705HD for about a month now. Being as this is my first projector, I really have nothing to compare it to, but I find it awesome!

I don't know all the technical aspects of things, but to my lay eye, the "black Levels" seem just fine. My kids can play video games and are enjoying showing off their 100" screen to all their friends. As of yet I haven't had 1 person say to me "geeez that black doesn't look very black"..

So maybe i just hang out with a bunch of blind folks, or it really isn't bad. The one thing i have noticed is the "screen door effect".. if i get within a foot of the image, i can see it. The other wish item is a lens shift. I found that setting the projector up and getting the image exactly where i want it was a bit of a pain having to make minute adjustments with the mount.

So as i said before.. I can't give you a review with all the technical terms that a lot of you folks use, but i can tell you that as a newbie in this HT stuff, I know i am getting the best value for my $650 dollars Canadian..

If anyone has any questions in regards to the projector feel free to ask, and I will give the best answer I can.

Allen
post #88 of 511
Well, Allen, I think you have given an excellent review and it mirrors my own experiences with this and other similar projectors. You don't have to spend a fortune, and the tech specs don't have to be golden, to get a projector that you can enjoy and which will serve you well. I'm biased to the Epson line, but I'm sure the same is true with other brands.

Thanks for posting!
post #89 of 511
So I got everything hooked up last night and spent and hour or two with the 705. I have a simple dalite B series pull down with a 1.0 gain about 100 inches. I feed it with a Dish 722, PS3, Xbox 360, and standard Sony dvd player all ran through a Denon 1910 with hdmi scaling set to 720p. The denon has a pretty good anchor bay chip so it seems to work well to scale everything so the Epson doesn't have to. It does seem to be quite important that your sources be set to 720p for best performance as the scaler in the 705 doesn't seem to handle other resolutions very well. Initially I was feeding 1080p and it looked good. Switching to 720p seemed to get rid of some motion artifacts though. I didn't expect a top level scaling chip at this price.

I don't have a calibration disc, so I used the THX optimizer from a standard dvd. Actually most of the settings out of the box were pretty close to what they should be. I run it in theater mode with the auto iris off in the eco setting. So far, I really, really like this projector. Like has been stated, if you are black level crazy, please look elsewhere as that is the one downfall of this projector. Otherwise, it does everything else quite well. It is so nice to be able to sit down in the family room with a light or two on and be able to watch a bright 100 inch screen. Super bowl looked good. The kids watched a movie on netflix streaming and it looked good. Screen door is not noticeable unless you are right up next to the screen. Colors are good. The only time I notice the black levels are when watching letterbox movies. Full screen video and games look great. I have it mounted right above my sitting area and you really don't hear it in eco mode. For the money, I am very happy with my purchase. I didn't expect $2000 performance for $600. I will take the brightness over the black levels any day.

This is not a dedicated home theater projector. For my purpose, though, it is perfect. Watching tv, movies, and playing video games with a light or two on is far better than I expected in this price range. I tried two 720p dlp projectors last year and although I loved the picture, the rainbows drove me crazy. The build quality didn't seem that great either. This is exactly what I have been waiting for. A 720p lcd projector that is bright and won't empty my pockets. The epson warranty doesn't hurt either.

I will try to get some pics posted later.
post #90 of 511
Great review, I look forward to Friday when I purchase mine. Although I reallly wont be able to use it til June or July, since it will be for my outdoor theater, but I will be testing it and messing around with it, I will have to try it with my xbox and some call of duty. But its main use will be for outdoor projections. Its sounds like a great $600- $700 projector, and you did not knock it for it shortfalls and not trying to compare it to a $2000 pj.
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