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Looking for a receiver to pair with PS3 and SVS speakers..

post #1 of 39
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I bought a refurb onkyo receiver ( tx-sr606 ) and this thing is complete ****. I have a hum coming thru the speakers ( cant find the ground loop, maybe its the receiver ) and it runs super hot. It take like 30 seconds to get an hdmi signal ( constant switching noise thru speakers ) so I'm fed up with it. I only had it like 5 days. I dont see sending it back and being w/o a receiver for that time. This is BS as it is already recond'ed and should be good to go.

So I need a 5.1 receiver that does decode and has HDMI in and out, 1080p and what not. Suggestions? I'm looking to spend 500 MAX
post #2 of 39
Take a look at the Denon 1910 (or 2310 for $49 more from 6th Avenue). They use Audyssey MultiEQ instead of 2EQ like the Onkyo and use Anchor Bay for the video. Denon receivers generally run cooler and prove more reliable than their Onkyo equivalents.
post #3 of 39
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Will do. I'm tired of this Onkyo... Sad but true. This thing runs HOT!
post #4 of 39
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That 2310 is 850 dollars bro. I'm looking to spend 500 max.
post #5 of 39
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I dont understand all the lingo and what not with what receivers decode and all. Are there any on this site http://www.accessories4less.com/make....page=4abd2bcb that are around 500 that decode the latest formats. I know my ps3 decodes but Id rather let the receiver do the hard work, not the PS3. Thanks
post #6 of 39
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Ima bump this one, I need to make a decision soon fellas. Some suggestions please!

I was thinking about it and I'll let the PS3 decode. So that gives me more options. It needs to be sent over LPCM ( or something like that ) over HDMI.

I just put a best offer in on a yammy 661. If I can get it for under 200 I'll go with that.,
post #7 of 39
If you have an original PS3 (non-slim), you don't need a receiver to decode Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA HD since the PS3 cannot bitstream those audio codecs for the receiver to decode. As for receiver suggestions, I'm a Denon fan. I have a 3808ci and a 1610 for a smaller setup. Both will be fine for a PS3, but the 1610 would be more in your price range. Also look at the 1910.
post #8 of 39
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And either the 1610 and the 1910 will do all the HDMI pass thru untouched video stuff? What about audio LPCM over HDMI?
post #9 of 39
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Originally Posted by mroneeyedboh View Post

Ima bump this one, I need to make a decision soon fellas. Some suggestions please!

I was thinking about it and I'll let the PS3 decode. So that gives me more options. It needs to be sent over LPCM ( or something like that ) over HDMI.

I just put a best offer in on a yammy 661. If I can get it for under 200 I'll go with that.,

If you have an older PS3 and not the new slim PS3 then you don't have any choice but to do the decoding in the PS3 for the new audio formats (TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio) and send it out to the receiver as LPCM. The new slim PS3 however can send those formats out as bitstream and the receiver does the decoding. Either way you end up with the same result with sound you hear. Just remember that the 661 doesn't decode the new HD sound formats so if in the future if you have a blu-ray that only bitstreams you might be out of luck.
post #10 of 39
Go back to the ac4l site and check the Marantz specials. The 4002 and 6001 new and refurb will work very well for you.

Didn't notice it before, but the 7001 refurb would be nice as well.
post #11 of 39
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I have the 606 on its last life line. I'm going to try the cheater plug and see if that eliminates the buzzing... If it does great, I can deal with the other problems for now.
post #12 of 39
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Originally Posted by mroneeyedboh View Post

I dont understand all the lingo and what not with what receivers decode and all. Are there any on this site http://www.accessories4less.com/make....page=4abd2bcb that are around 500 that decode the latest formats. I know my ps3 decodes but Id rather let the receiver do the hard work, not the PS3. Thanks

As said by others, a "fat" PS3 (like the one I have) can't bitstream, so the PS3 does the "hard work" - which is child's play for it, given it's processing power anyway.

Of the receivers on the website you reference, I'd think the Marantz 5003 is the best option within your budget range.

Best of luck!
post #13 of 39
Check out the Denon AVR-1910 at Electronics Expo. They're an authorized Denon dealer so no warranty problems.
http://www.electronics-expo.com/inde...r-1910&x=0&y=0

Use coupon code JKL33X and the price will come in under $450 and ships free. This receiver runs cool and does everything you're looking for, including advanced codecs should you upgrade the PS3 or get a dedicated player later.
post #14 of 39
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I like that denon 1910
post #15 of 39
For less than $370 shipped get the better Denon AVR 789 off Amazon as a refurb.
post #16 of 39
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For less than $370 shipped get the better Denon AVR 789 off Amazon as a refurb.

A good find...but remember, Denon factory refurbs only have 90 days warranty. If not comfortable with 90 days, you can purchase a Square Trade warranty for @$36 for another year and add a second year for another $18 more.

http://www.squaretrade.com
post #17 of 39
Bought a used Yamaha RX-V661 on Ebay for $150.00. Can't say enough for it.
post #18 of 39
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I did hear about that 661, and the 90 day warranty isnt bad for me. I mean Denon is good stuff ya know.

I think I found the problem with my onkyo 606. The subwoofer cable is deff bad, I think that is starting the ground loop issues I'm having. Maybe that is causing the other problems too?
post #19 of 39
LMAO, this is nonsense, you complain it runs HOT, you are fed up? with what exactly? that your reciever runs HOT? LOL, it runs hot because thats how Onkyos are built , and they run HOT because they deliver. It has a nice 90watt amp which will give an exciting experience when watching a blueray with almost any 6ohm and up Speakers. I had the 606 for 2 years , i upgraded to the 707 now, but the 606 was a VERY VERY good reciever for the time. ur reciever must be defective, it shouldnt take 30 seconds to get HDMI output to the TV(took 3-5 seconds tops), they all run hot, if u have proper ventilation it will still run HOT but u shouldnt have any problem in the long run.

Damn... lol
post #20 of 39
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HAha sorry just confused with all the options. The humming I think I have figured out, I'm wondering that if the ground loop is causing the HDMI issues? And with it running hot, I put a fan on the back right ( I think where the most heat is produced ) and it is helping alot to keep it cooler. I did buy th 606 because of the good thing I heard about it, but the heat whoa. I didnt know it was that bad. If I can find something else that is comparable or better I'll go with that. Those denons are nice, and in my price range. I'll see if I can find any thread on them comparing it to the 606. I'll keep the 606 just not for home theater use.
post #21 of 39
I love Onkyo and I completely agree with the other poster that they are very, very good units and I have NO PROBLEM recommendeing Onkyo. True they are the best bang for the buck, meaning you get more features but at the cost of the overall quality of those same features. I do not mean this in a bad way. As an examply true enough the606 has Audyssey. albeit the lower end of the Audyssey spectrum.

The reason I recommended the Denon 789 is because it has features like the almost full blown Audyssey feature and adds Dynamic Volume as an added bonus for example. The actual sound clarity is better in my opinion and is immediately noticeable.

Anyway for the price the 789 can be had for I really feel it is the better of the two, when comparing te 606 & the 789. What amazes me is that most describe the 789 (and if I'm not mistaken the 606 as well) as being an "entry level" AVR. When considering what features are implemented along with the price and finally the end results, I hardly can say this is an 'entry level' AVR. I honestly place it in the upper end of the 'mid-level' line of AVR's. What I am trying to say I guess is that if the 789 is considered "entry level" I can't imagine how good the upper tier AVR's must be. I really feel that ALOT more money would have to be spent in order to get something that sounds that much better. And I don't just mean more power as 90watts a channel is a barely perceptable difference from a 100 or 110 watt a channel AVR.

All this being said, the only real concern I have is that the warranty for a refurb is 90 days. Just for piece of mind I would like to see a 1 year warranty and IIRC that is what Denon used to offer. Why they changed I have no idea. But on the other hand I believe that if the unit works after 30 days, let alone 90 days, it won't have any problems that would occur if the warranty was 1 year. Sure it could happen but the odds are against it.

Out of all the AVR's that has been suggested the 789 is the best bang for yur buck you will find. If you want an analogy, think of the 789 as 1lb of hamburger that is 90/10 & think of the Onkyo (& Yamaha/Pioneer) as 80/20 or even 75/25. The first value being meat cntent and the second value being fat content.
post #22 of 39
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Originally Posted by mroneeyedboh View Post

HAha sorry just confused with all the options. The humming I think I have figured out, I'm wondering that if the ground loop is causing the HDMI issues? And with it running hot, I put a fan on the back right ( I think where the most heat is produced ) and it is helping alot to keep it cooler. I did buy th 606 because of the good thing I heard about it, but the heat whoa. I didnt know it was that bad. If I can find something else that is comparable or better I'll go with that. Those denons are nice, and in my price range. I'll see if I can find any thread on them comparing it to the 606. I'll keep the 606 just not for home theater use.

if u think the 606 is HOTT then i cant wait until you see a 707 or 807 in action
post #23 of 39
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The 707 is even hotteR? I cant imagine haha.

The 789 is definitely enticing.
post #24 of 39
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Originally Posted by mroneeyedboh View Post

The 707 is even hotteR? I cant imagine haha.

The 789 is definitely enticing.

Yes it is (Hotter) and the 807 even more hotter (bigger amp, power supply etc )
post #25 of 39
None of my AVR's I ever owned (including my 789) ever ran hot unless I am pushing it hard for extended periods.

You ever feel a sub amp after a serious movie watching session? HOT HOT HOOOOOOT!
post #26 of 39
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Lamonsasa how come I hear a hiss/fuzzy noise coming from my speakers. I read that this could be a bad decoder chip problem. This is the ground loop I was referring to and its doing it now more noticeably. I think this is a common problem with refrub 606's right?

This is a Denon789 right? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160360678103

Its pretty cheap
post #27 of 39
Yes that is a 789. Personally I have not heard positive things about that seller. About the same price as Amazon. You have to consider the cost to ship also.

Hiss/fuzzy IS NOT a ground loop. A ground loop is a hum/buzz sound. Hiss/fuzz sounds like a bad connection/cable or wire somewhere.
post #28 of 39
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But in all speakers? I used all new HDMI cables and new speaker wire. and its only when the 606 gets a signal from ps3 it starts. I have not tried it on other inputs. As the ps3 is my only input.
post #29 of 39
Yes in all speakers if the hiss is caused by a certain source, in this case the PS3. Does the hissing stop if the PS3 is turned off? Is the hiss still there when using the radio or a CD player?
post #30 of 39
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Yep ps3 turned off, the hiss goes away.. What causes this? A ****** hdmi?
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