Official JVC RS15/ HD550 Owner's Thread - Page 5

You may have to go into each source and make sure that ther is no scaling enabled by default.

For instance, on you PC, ATI drivers have some amount of scaling enabled by default. You have to go into the Catalyst Control Center and manually turn it off. That probably explains your PC.

Also, some HD cable sources are transmitted with some overscan. You may have no choice but to mask those sources.

Thanks ... I will do some checking ...

As I stated though (in my extended post ) the Samsung connected to the same video is fine, and the old Sony projector was fine. Additionally the menus on the Sony DVR area also bordered, whereas the video is fine ...

Some projectors mask by default and you can't change it. If you can fix the scaling on your PC in the way I describe, you can be sure that the Sony DVR needs to be looked at.

Good luck.

you wont get flamed here. Post away this is all meaningful info. Was this friends 20 calibrated and how old is his bulb?

All ... and Lawguy especially for hitting the nail on the head ...
Dang!!! Well I have never been a fan of the ATI CCC, and that's where my problem was ... whether I set the underscan to -7% or it defaulted ... I don't know. I sure don't remember setting it. And I don't understand what the Sony HS20 projector was projecting ... but that's OBE now.

But the video display from the VMC PC is all good now

Additionally, I guess I was getting frazzled during the deug processes ... apparently the other DVRs that I have display their menus in reduced size windows ... so they do not actually have a problem ...

Again ... thank you all ... I was having heart failure buying a bleeding edge projector and worrying about an internal bug ... where all the time it was just an operator error

It happens to all of us. I'm glad you figured it out.

Yes, his is calibrated. He has about 220 hours on his so either way the way brighter comment shouldn't count. He did say to his eyes the 550 is much more sharper. And yes, he liked the 120Hz for football. Mind you he is not as sick as many of us here are but using cin 1 and natural pic modes he said the colors looked very close to his. And lastly he tried to steal the remote!

Seriously, he also thought it handled motion better to.

Has anyone figured out how to zoom with a live image - I can only seem to zoom with a green grid displayed.

I can't recall what the setting is but there is some setting in the menu that when configured enables you to make zoom/shift/focus adjustments using live material instead of with the patterns.

I may have answered my own questions....There appear to be discrete IR codes for zoom+/- and lens shift. I'll just program these in to my remote. Assuming they don't switch over to green grid for the discrete codes.

Hi all,

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a new PJ. Although it still works well now my trusty AE900 is getting a bit dated I'm looking to upgrade and the RS15 is on my short list but I do have a few questions for those that considered the higher end JVCs along with, perhaps, the Panasonic PJs. First some notable features (or lack thereof) and some questions...

1. CMS - I've read over much of the RS20 and new RS25, RS15 text here on AVS... In the absence of CMS, some on the 25 and 20 threads make it sound like the 10 and 15 are unwatchable... Are the colors that "wrong" or is this the case of videophile nitpicking?

2. FI - This is the reason I probably will not look hard at the previous generation RS20 - I hate motion artifact and that was one of the reasons I liked the Panasonic. How well does this work in the 15? Is it a noteable improvement over the 10/20?

3. Contrast - I've seen screenshots of comparisons between the 10 and 20 and while there was clearly some black level difference, both seemed to give a stunning picture. Thoughts?

Comparisons - so for those of you who have done more extensive comparisons, what is your take as to where the RS15 falls with respect to the last generation JVCs (10 and 20) and the Panasonic AE3000? With the recent price drop of the Panny AE4000, that is awfully tempting but I suspect (hope) the JVCs are still better.

Without lack of side by side, only the videophiles would significantly care about the difference is color accuracy. Accurate is however better.

AE4000 is still way off on brightness compared to a RS15. Especially true as the bulb ages.

db

Perhaps I had a particularly bad one, but I disagree. I am no videophile but I found the greens to be "gag me" neon in some scenes. Things we Lost in the Fire was particularly egregious. It was filmed in the green NW USA... ugh! I needed no side-by-side comparo! It was very obviously wrong. I got a Lumagen HPD to mitigate it to where my non videophile eyes don't object.

Mine is an RS1. I understand the new non-CMS JVC's (RS10/15) may not be any better... just different in their imperfections.

I had the RS2 for a brief moment. You don't have to be a videophile nor need to do a side by side comparison to tell the over saturated colors. Some may prefer the over saturated colors over accurate ones though.

Well, my first movie on my RS15 with lots of grass did distract me / make me a bit worried. However, with some quick adjustments of colors, gamma, etc (my blue ray player, LG BH200, lets me adjust colors as well) and now everything seems alot better . . . . though if there was a ISF calibrator within a few days of here, I'm sure it could even be better.

Colors are definately better than my 720P epson projector I've upgraded from.

Most people (everyone so far) who has seen it is amazed with how real and smooth the picture is. Not one person has mentioned anything about colors being off.

Without having seen a CMS adjustable projector, I guess I can't really tell you how much better it is, but, for my tastes so far, the colors on the RS15 are fine.

I would, someday, like to see a RS20/25 though I'm kind of scared that may turn into an expensive viewing . . . .

(BTW I'm projecting from 19ft on a shelf mount onto a 118" Carada BW screen in a light controlled room.)

Made the upgrade to RS15 from RS1 last Friday. Spent time setting up over weekend. Jason did a great job of calibration. I don't have any instruments to measure anything so my comments are based on visual appearances in comparison with the RS1, and after only a couple of hours viewing. I am very pleased with the image. As others have said, it has better blacks, sharper, and looks like better contrast. The iris is at position 3 so it's not overwhelmingly bright.

I sent my Lumagen HDP to Jason to calibrate it with the RS15 but we had a mixup with the power cord and he didn't get to calibrate the HDP also. I would have liked to have seen what that would have done. As it is I am using the gamut adjustments that Lawguy, Ronomy and others (Thank you very much!) suggested over a year ago. I haven't tried the RS15 without the Lumagen yet, but very impressed with the naturalness of the colors using those adjustments (granted, I believe a CMS could do better). I know it's early but has anyone tried adjusting the gamut on HDP/Q with the 15 yet? I wonder if the settings would be much different.

Here's a question. I have the 15 mounted upright on a shelf suspended about 12-15" from ceiling, 16 feet back from 120" diag 2.35 Carada BW screen, using Panamorph CIH lens. I had to make substantial (it seemed) vertical adjustment. Has anyone measured any significant loss of picture quality with large vertical adjustment? When I have time I may try flipping it but then I might have to do some shimming to get image centered as the 15 does not have a perfectly flat top with adjustable projector feet!

It will probably take a few weeks to get a full feel for the picture in different movies/settings. By the way, watched Sunday football and MLDS and picture looked fantastic from DISH! So right now I am very happy with the upgrade and don't want to hear about any great new projectors for a while! .

what part of Alabama?

Alright, I've been messing with the setup of my RS15 for a few hours now and have come upon an issue. 99% sure my i1d2 is not reading right but want some 2nd opinions. Basically, running the i1d2 and calman to calibrate greyscale. Problems start when I try to get a base line read on my white balance. Playback 80% pluge and take a reading with RS15 set to 6500 and I get readings above 8000. If I drop down to 5800K my readings hover around 7500K. This just doesn't seem right. Moving onto a basic 30% 80% calibration, I can get the 30% close pretty easily but when I start messing with 80% my RED level is REALLY low. To get anywhere close to a low dE I crank the Green to -50 (max). Any other tweaks don't even get the red levels to change much at all. Tell me I'm doing something wrong. I'm new to this but I know when I get the dE "close" to the bullseye the grayscale is most definitely reddish. Not just a bit warm. RED. Any help would be much appreciated.

Matt: make sure you're not decreasing red, as the projector is red limited. But 8000K reading does seem high even in the preset 6500k mode. You probably will be able to spot a 8000k color temp with your eyes even without a meter, as it looks vastly different to 6500k.

Another update. Remember Jason did the projector calibration and I am using the HDP with Ron's & Lawguy's gamut adjustments for the RS1.
Got a chance last night to watch my first "reference" movie, "The Fifth Element." Totally blown away by vibrant colors, blacks, whites, depth, natural face colors. The whole scene on Fhloston, Paradise is just eye candy from beginning to end. I judge solely on appearances but I am sensitive especially to flesh tones and extreme oversaturation (as in box stores displays). Not present here to my eye (though purists might disagree).

So with Jason's calibration and gamut adjustments on the HDP the picture is fantastic, definitely worth the upgrade from RS1 IMHO.

Has anyone been able to get the discrete hex codes to work properly from the JVC website? I am trying to paste them in using the Hex Editor in CCC and am not having good results. I think it might be CCP.

db

Could you comment on the fan noise level compared to the HX2.

I have an HX1 and it seems quite loud to me.

Thanks,
Steve

I believe that the answer is on page 38 of the Instruction manual.

In the menu Installation > Lens Control (21) > Image Pattern > Off.

When displaying the image pattern, displays the external input signal

I can't compare to the HX1, but relative to the Sony HS20 it is practically silent. My RS15 is mounted above and directly behind my seating position and it is very quiet. The wife indicates that if it wasn't for the shutter door noise when powering on, she wouldn't even know the projector is on (and she claims to be not deaf - although she never hears (listens) to me.

The HX2 was clearly audible, but never really bothered me - it just let you know it was on. I'm not really picky that way.

The RS15 is way, way, way quieter. On normal lamp you can barely hear it from the front row which is directly under it. On high lamp, you can hear a bit of fan noise, but way lower than hx2.

Apples and oranges comparison.

Thanks for the feedback!

Glad all worked out well Frank. Thanks again!

For those who are interested I got in an RS35...I'll be posting pictures and stuff tonight for comparison. We'll see what a ~$3k delta buys you.

Just some basic questions (I'm a HD350 owner, but I'm sure there is little difference in these settings): With the HDMI mode in 'Standard/Normal' you may need the main contrast control taking below '0' to compensate for the PJ 'running out of red', if you've turned it above this (or are using 'Enhanced') then that may be the cause. I take it you set your brightness and contrast before you started the greyscale run? You should check which gamma mode you are using; I use 'Custom gamma' set to 2.2 which is set to 'default' initially (though it could probably do with a slight 'tweak' but at least it's in the ballpark).

You should also warm up both your I2 and the PJ for at least 1 hour before running the calibration and do a sensor calibration before each run as the I2 will drift within minutes of the calibration. I've almost given up on using my LT (same sensor different package) due to inconsistant results.....