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post #61 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

The RS15...

If he's OK with the colors. Otherwise the 20 is cheaper than a 15 and a Lumagen.
post #62 of 858
The 550 is (RS15) sharper, brighter and the colors are very good without a CMS. Plus it handles motion somewhat better and also gives you 120Hz for sports...

Just my 2 cents...
post #63 of 858
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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

I am currently waiting to see if I could grab a JVC RS20 on a close out. Maybe I am better off buying the RS15 instead? Anyone has seen both?

If you look hard enough, there are RS20's clearance sales at the price of RS15's. I think its worth it for more accurate colors.
post #64 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

the colors are very good without a CMS.

They finally tamed the greens? I'd be very interested in this.
post #65 of 858
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Originally Posted by 703 View Post

If you look hard enough, there are RS20's clearance sales at the price of RS15's. I think its worth it for more accurate colors.

Have you seen a 550 yet? The colors are very good. Plus you get everything else I posted above which you don't in the RS20.

Again, my 2 cents...
post #66 of 858
I had the RS2 for a brief moment and didn't like the saturated colors. If the color of the RS15 is the same as the RS2, then it would not work for me. The RS2 was also less sharper and less brighter than my Sharp DLP.
post #67 of 858
Alright. Got the RS15 this week and finally had time to set it up in my theater. This is my first theater and projector so I'm pretty damn excited. I've done all the basics, alignment, Brightness and Contrast via DVE HD disc etc. I DID NOT do the color stuff with their filters as I'm now tinkering with Calman and a EyeOne Display 2. (E1D2). Here's where my questions start. Following the very basic Calman process, it seems I leave the diffuser ON the e1d2. It then says to "initialize" but says NOTHING of putting it on a black surface (which I've done when tuning my LCD computer displays). I assume I need to do this when I initialize but correct me if I'm wrong. Next, it's onto placement and getting close to the "listed max". I'm doing this with the e1d2 Facing the PJ. It seems for me to get close to the "max" I need to a) have the iris open all the way and b) have the sensor REALLY close to the PJ. Like 2 feet. Is this right? I get it near 10,000 and call it good. So Color Temp - Here's where I think I'm off. Essentially you set the RS15 to a preset temp and pick whatever comes closest to 6500K. (using an 80% Grey) Well D6500 reads over 8000 and 5800 more like 7000. This seems WAY off. Anyone else want to chime in here? Then when I do the 30% 80% adjustments (using 5800K as my starting point) it seem like I'm really messing with the blue and green settings to get the "bullseye" close. Like -9G -6B on the low end and -35G -22B on the high end. This again, seems like user error on my part. And the "grey" sure as heck looks pink-ish to me when I do get both bullseyes close.

Ran out of time and just went back to cinema 1 for the time being.

All that said, It looks REALLY good on my Brilliant White Carada and blacks are GREAT. Barely can make out the bars in a 2.35 movie.

Thanks
post #68 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Have you seen a 550 yet? The colors are very good.

So you're saying that the oversaturated colors that JVC has been so famous for in the last 3 iterations of its consumer projectors are no longer a problem in the HD550/RS15? I'd love to see some measurements from you - this would be good news for people looking to get JVC's famous on/off performance for a lower price without worrying about having grossly inaccurate colors.
post #69 of 858
You'll just have to check out my review...
post #70 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

You'll just have to check out my review...

I'm waiting with bated breath.
post #71 of 858
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Originally Posted by HogPilot View Post

I'm waiting with bated breath.

PM sent.
post #72 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

You'll just have to check out my review...

There's nothing about color accuracy in your review. Even just a CIE chart would be nice.
post #73 of 858
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

There's nothing about color accuracy in your review. Even just a CIE chart would be nice.

What review?
post #74 of 858
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

What review?

I take your meaning. Just in case you were serious: http://www.**************.com/showthread.php?t=3239

But you're right... "what review"?

EDIT: Interesting... AVS didn't like the link. Is there any meaning there?
post #75 of 858
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

I take your meaning. Just in case you were serious: http://www.**************.com/showthread.php?t=3239

But you're right... "what review"?

EDIT: Interesting... AVS didn't like the link. Is there any meaning there?

No, I wasn't being sarcastic. I wasn't aware of where he posted the review.
post #76 of 858
But you're right... "what review"?


Another reason I won't post anything over here.
post #77 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

But you're right... "what review"?


Another reason I won't post anything over here.

I am sorry. But you're intimating that JVC has fixed the oversaturation problem in the RS15 and it's just not true. People need to know the RS15 has the same type of errors as the RS 10, RS2 and RS1 that came before. Only the JVC's with CMS can correct this color problem. I gather it may have gotten a little better or at least different with each generation. But it's still there.
post #78 of 858
You gather? Have you compared one yet? Granted it may not be perfect but it will be perfectly fine for the majority of new owners.
post #79 of 858
"Granted it may not be perfect but it will be perfectly fine for the majority of new owners."

That was also the case for the previous generations.

And I think you're remiss for not mentioning that you have an RS15 for sale.
post #80 of 858
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Originally Posted by noah katz View Post

"Granted it may not be perfect but it will be perfectly fine for the majority of new owners."

That was also the case for the previous generations.

And I think you're remiss for not mentioning that you have an RS15 for sale.

And you are remiss for not realizing I need to fund the 990 and VW85 for my next reviews. I can always repurchase one if I feel it is up there with the more expensive models.
post #81 of 858
I will lastly say my OTC 1000 didn't think the 550 was off by much. The best measurements I have ever had have come from my VW200. Sure the 550 is not there but again most would be more than happy with it...
post #82 of 858
Oh and thanks for the plug!
post #83 of 858
Thread Starter 
I was in Times Square tonight, where JVC has a planet Earth sphere with scrolling text and a giant flat screen display that (among other products) included a vivid sweep past one of their new projectors (OK, an HD750), with pauses at the connector set, lens, etc, amid legends such as "Native contrast 50,000:1". Very cool.

Kevin
post #84 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

And you are remiss for not realizing I need to fund the 990 and VW85 for my next reviews. I can always repurchase one if I feel it is up there with the more expensive models.


I guess that you did not get review samples from JVC like you said you were?

Go report me for another "personal attack." I won't comment on your "review." It speaks for itself.
post #85 of 858
I don't review samples. I Want what everyone else is getting. I think that makes sense. As for my review I expected a comment like that from you. Coming from you it's a compliment.

As always I call them like I see them. Thanks for reading it.
post #86 of 858
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Originally Posted by Kevin McCarthy View Post

I was in Times Square tonight, where JVC has a planet Earth sphere with scrolling text and a giant flat screen display that (among other products) included a vivid sweep past one of their new projectors (OK, an HD750), with pauses at the connector set, lens, etc, amid legends such as "Native contrast 50,000:1". Very cool.

Kevin

Very cool.
post #87 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I don't review samples. I Want what everyone else is getting. I think that makes sense. As for my review I expected a comment like that from you. Coming from you it's a compliment.

As always I call them like I see them. Thanks for reading it.

But you said that JVC was sending units to you to review. That was not true, as are a lot of things that you have posted.

The problem with you calling them like you see them is that you see the same thing different ways depending on the day. In short, you do not even make any attempt at objectivity. You will not see this as a problem because you have already admitted to it.

Please just let this go because I have no desire to sidetrack this thread. Write nothing more and I will do the same.
post #88 of 858
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Originally Posted by 703 View Post

If you look hard enough, there are RS20's clearance sales at the price of RS15's. I think its worth it for more accurate colors.

Agreed. I think that the RS15 is simply an RS10 with frame interpolation. That is not a bad thing because the RS10 is a very nice projector and you get FI for those people who like that. Still, if an accurate picture is what you want and they price is the same, I would go with an RS20.
post #89 of 858
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

But you said that JVC was sending units to you to review. That was not true, as are a lot of things that you have posted.

The problem with you calling them like you see them is that you see the same thing different ways depending on the day. In short, you do not even make any attempt at objectivity. You will not see this as a problem because you have already admitted to it.

Please just let this go because I have no desire to sidetrack this thread. Write nothing more and I will do the same.

How do you know I am not getting a 990 (which is what I said I was-look it up). I decided to do the 550 at the last minute. I have always planned to just do the 85 and 990. My Review was very favorable of the 550 (RS15). And so far everything I have seen has been mentioned by other owners. I spent 12 hours comparing and testing. And here is a BIG shocker, so far you are the ONLY one who has a problem with my Review.

If I were you I would sell your RS20 and get a 15...
post #90 of 858
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

And you are remiss for not realizing I need to fund the 990 and VW85 for my next reviews. I can always repurchase one if I feel it is up there with the more expensive models.

That's one of the reasons.
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