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post #121 of 308
Hello all. Looking for advice and/or recommendations for a receiver. Just purchased Pinnacle MB 11700 today from Dell. The speakers should come in a week or so. I made the purchase after reading many of the reviews here as it seems the Pinnacle reputation blossoms in scattered patches.
What I am working with -
14X18 room
Sony Bravia KDL52w3000
Direct TV HD Receiver
PS3
XBOX360
WII
Pinnacle MB 11700 (coming soon to an HT near me!)
I will be purchasing an Ipod dock
I will eventually give my PS3 a break and buy a BD player

What am I missing? A 7.1 or 7.2 receiver!
Been thinking of Yamaha RX-V765, at least within that price range and similar specs.
Questions - Does the "1000 watt" classification of the speakers have anything to do with the receiver i might want?
Will I be disappointed with the speaker bar?
Will this sound good enough to cause incontinence when playing Modern Warfare?
Am I just being a cheapskate or am I being frugal?

As this is the Pinnacle speaker thread and not the "noob wants a receiver" thread I will, of course, post my debut experience thoughts and emotions of these hopefully excellent speakers.

Thank you for your opinions and advice!
post #122 of 308
Due to aesthetics, I'm looking for a decent LCR soundbar. The QP9 seems to fit the bill. Sounds like most of you went with the MB8000. Can anyone with the MB10000 or a QP9 comment on its performance?

The other dilemma is the cost. I don't really need the sub and surrounds, but a standalone QP 9 goes for around $700, when you can get the entire MB10000 for <$500. Obviously it would make sense to get the whole package. Maybe I could part it out and eBay the other parts.
post #123 of 308
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Originally Posted by Soloaf View Post

Anyone else have the mb6000 with a sealed subwoofer? I looked on the box and it says bottom vented I looked in the specs Manuel it says 4th order bottom vented. I called Dell and they had no idea what I was talking about as usual. I called pinnacle and they said it was supposted to be bottom vented, and they had no idea how I got a sealed subwoofer. I'm waiting on a response from pinnacle on what happened and how they are going to fix it. I know the mb8000 is sealed but it's also 200w vs my 125w. I do love the Chrisp sound of the speakers espically in dolby HD and dts HD. Call of duty ps3 sounds way to real. I can hear people sneAKing up behind me. Music is vibrant and movies sound amazing

Anyone else got a sealed or vented subwoofer with their mb6000 system?

No, mine is vented. You're talking about the bottom right?
post #124 of 308
Well, after leaving only two posts in different forums and obtaining little help, if any, towards choosing a receiver, I have just purchased the Pioneer vsx1020. Not sure if this is the right choice at this point. I really liked the specs on the Yamaha 765 but... WTH.
Can't wait to plug the Pinnacle 7.1 speakers into the Pioneer and let er rip. The anticipation is killing me and boy do I hope there is no let down.

Since this is a Pinnacle dedicated thread I will be posting my impressions here. I hope there are interested parties. These recent purchases were made solely on what research is available and the source of my funding. Put the two together and this is what I could afford.

Is there anyone interested in a review?
post #125 of 308


I'd like to hear your impression, particularly the LCR.
post #126 of 308
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Originally Posted by Psilibus View Post

Well, after leaving only two posts in different forums and obtaining little help, if any, towards choosing a receiver, I have just purchased the Pioneer vsx1020. Not sure if this is the right choice at this point. I really liked the specs on the Yamaha 765 but... WTH.
Can't wait to plug the Pinnacle 7.1 speakers into the Pioneer and let er rip. The anticipation is killing me and boy do I hope there is no let down.

Since this is a Pinnacle dedicated thread I will be posting my impressions here. I hope there are interested parties. These recent purchases were made solely on what research is available and the source of my funding. Put the two together and this is what I could afford.

Is there anyone interested in a review?

yes would like to see you do a review,

I am highly looking at getting the QP 15 to replace my Current Energy C-R3 which I have as my Left,Right,Center.....
The QP 15 is part of the MB 15700 which from Dell...

Looking to see how this Speaker Rates and it is the High End of the Sound Bar Line...
the other speaker I am looking at is
The Black Diamond BD 600 and BD 1000
I also posted a thread regarding it...
post #127 of 308
Watching Avatar on bluray from PS3 through my new Pioneer VSX1020-k. Whole room remodeling so taking some time. The LCR speaker bar and 10" sub are hooked up only at the moment. The speaker bar puts out very crisp and clear sound. Room filling. This room is 14x18, rectangular. I set up the receiver to approximate 3.1 "surround". The sound output is impressive. I am very pleased with the sub, "SUBcompact 10inch". I hand built a 450 watt dual 10" sub, my pride and joy, and this Pinnacle sub holds its own against it during movies. Really sounds crisp with DEEP rumbling and powerful thrums. This sub is NOT a "loud music" player though!
The speaker bar is a sacrifice. I would rather have two towers and a dedicated center channel as I have in my living room, but, the sound is great - remember, this is a 7.1 speaker package and I am only reporting on the sub and bar. If you were looking for a surround bar and sub only I would skip this. I love the sound but am going to rely on the other speakers to perfect the surround sound. The "surround" effect from this bar is minimal at best. Perhaps I could tweak it more but my understanding is that there are speaker bars more dedicated to "surround sound". This is just great sound from the speaker bar (Bar None sf950), not so great at surround on it's own though, IMHO.
I will report on the entire speaker system once I have it up. I have more paneling and wire to run. Good luck and enjoy!
post #128 of 308
I see a couple of comparisions for the MB8000 to the Take Classics. What about vs. the RC-Micros? I'm in the market for a relatively compact HTIB and both of these are on my radar, as well as the Onkyo S6300 since I also need a receiver. My room is about 20' x 17' with an 8' ceiling but it's vaulted. The room is also open to the the kitchen and dining room so it's a pretty large open space. Are these compact systems going to be powerful enough for me? Keep in mind this will be my entry level go at surround sound, I'm used to TV speakers so everything will probably sound great to me.
post #129 of 308
pjs32000 -

I'm no audiophile sound expert but... These pinnacle speakers are really putting out the sound. Crystal clear. Several family members, and, most importantly my wife, say the Pinnacle speakers are awesome. I have all 7.1 set up now and these are fantastic for movies and gaming. Kids were wowed by GOW3 and Bioshock 2. I am still disappointed by the music, can't seem to get the sonic pounding I was hoping for - still tweaking the receiver, might end up adding another sub. Either way, the kids love it, my wife loves it and I love it - especially the price for what I got!

Sorry I have no comparisons for anyone. My other system is an ancient Technics receiver with Technics 15" towers, Cerwin Vega/Klipsch surrounds and a homemade 450 watt dual ten inch sub (Very LOUD and I ain't afraid to try and blow it all up!). The surround system the Pinnacle/Pioneer is replacing was a HTIB by Sharp. I hated it but it was bought by my wife with good intentions. Lasted several years until I played some new Metallica too loud and fried the reciever - a kind and honorable death.

I have read very good reviews on the Take speakers, "energy" and such. Dunno RC-micros. I bought this from Dell primarily because I was in the market for a surround system and I have a zero interest account with access to Dell through work, really a no brainer at the time. I listened to some various speakers at two local AV stores in town and I couldn't bring myself to part with the amount of cash required to purchase what I really wanted. Meanwhile I'll geek out the system I have and enjoy it.

Thanks for reading. Hope this was helpful to someone.
post #130 of 308
I was looking at getting some KEFs, Boston Accoustics, or Definitive Technology 600 5.1 system. But I understand none of them are made in America but Pinnacles are.

Anyone know how the MB6000 compare to the Def techs 600?

I hve a pretty small room and a Pioneer VSX-30 receiver.

Thanks in advance.
post #131 of 308
A friend of mine recently unveiled his new home theater. HD projector onto a 10' retractable screen with a 60 in plasma behind. Some newer model Pioneer Elite with Klipsch towers and Definitive Tech surrounds. He tried to blast me out, impress me. I was impressed but found the surrounds to be lacking. I kept thinking he needed to adjust something. Didn't sound powerful. He needed to adjust his receiver I believe. I was impressed (jealous) none-the-less.
I just spent a couple hours "screwing" with my new Pioneer vsx-1020-k and I have found that, low and behold, my Pinnacle speakers rock the house. I was afraid they might not put it out for loud music. I was initially frustrated. Patience pays off.

imcheesehead1- You have a very good receiver in my opinion. I don't know the speaker models specifically to make a good comparison because the Definitive Tech speakers might not have been set up properly in the receiver.

Pinnacle Speakers has all the relevant specs for their speakers online. I took into account the power specs, sensitivity, etc and found that a majority of the speakers in my price range were VERY similar. The construction and presentation may vary but the sound quality is so much in the control of the receiver and its operator. Find the specs in your price range and google it out. There are probably many US speaker manufacturers that are struggling to provide their best. I happen to now believe Pinnacle speakers ARE providing their best. I used Boston Acoustics crossovers in my homebuilt speakers and they do the job quite well. My friend was impressed with his system when he showed it off. The sound is in the ear of the beholder.

650.00 US for my Pinnacle mb11700 7.1 "audiophile speakers", from Dell. Couldn't find much in that price range with the specs I wanted. For 1000 US I might have gone elsewhere but who knows? I might have spent too much money on "more" when I only have an 14x18 foot room to fill.

Good luck!
post #132 of 308
Does anyone have any experiance with the BD 600 and 1000 speakers?
Was going to go with the QP15 but after a call in to pinnicle they have recommended these instead because of my preticular setup...
thanks
Fr
post #133 of 308
ok I cant decide now which Pinnacle set up I want Any of the MB 6000, 800, or 10000 or the to new S-Fit Systems. Anyone know the differences?

Room is pretty small 20x16 x9 or so with Pioneer VSX-30. Any help is appreciated.
post #134 of 308
http://www.pinnaclespeakers.com/index.html - Have you been to their site? All specs are available there in PDF format. The "Microburst" series, mb6000 to mb15700 are essentially S-fit speakers put into a package - "HTIB", with a few exceptions.

Your receiver is a 7.1 system and the speaker packages you are questioning are 5.1?
The mb6000 and mb8000 are a 5.1 system with individual speakers. The mb1000 has the center, right and left in a speaker bar. Some reviewers are turned off by speaker bars but it really sounds great IMHO.

The prices for these speakers are best found through Dell.
Currently -
MB6000=$249.99, MB8000=$349.99 and MB10000=$549.99
For about a hundred bucks more you could purchase the MB11700 which is a 7.1 surround system, $649.99, it is what I opted for and I could not be happier for that price. You could, of course, start with a 5.1 and add extra speakers later.

The major differences are total wattage and size of the subwoofer. The few reviews I had found regarding these speakers have all been favorable. I would carefully consider how much subwoofer you need. The sub in my system really puts out the BASS for its size. I have heard the other subwoofers sound great as well but I prefer big bass and may even consider getting a second sub at some point. These are attractive speakers as well, look very nice in my family room when set up.

Hope this helps.
post #135 of 308
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Originally Posted by Psilibus View Post

http://www.pinnaclespeakers.com/index.html - Have you been to their site? All specs are available there in PDF format. The "Microburst" series, mb6000 to mb15700 are essentially S-fit speakers put into a package



There is actually a significant difference between the MB and the S-fit lines. The MB series does not use the S-fit series speakers. It uses the Quantum series speakers, which have some significant advantages over the cheaper S-fit.

Extruded aluminum vs. woodgrain vinyl finish
titanium vs silk tweeters
carbon fiber vs. poly woofers
better sensitivity
better power handling

Anyway, given the choice, I would definitely choose the MB series over the S-fit.
post #136 of 308
Hi ! I have used pinnacle speaker for many years(25 yrs) with no problems. I recently purchased the mb1000 microbust,but I'm only interested in the subwoofer. if anyone is interested in buying the center qp9 and a pair of qp2send me pm. enjoy it.
post #137 of 308
READ this and if this doesn't sell you on pinnacle then i don't know what will.

i posted earlier they sent me the wrong sub woofer. i called them and talked to the tech guy and told him there was no hole on the bottom. some lady from HQ called me and asked me if i wanted an upgrade to their 225w rear vented speaker at no extra charge. so i went from a 125w to a 225w for FREE, and yes even the shipping was FREE. the people are extremely nice. you get a 7 YEAR WARRANTY!! from a company that picks up the phone when you call the number and not a automated machine. i only suggest you calculate these factors in when you purchase your system.

my review on these speakers-
THEY are insane, i have heard BOSE, KLH, and many others in the store. i am in a dorm and the setup i have is COMPLETE overkill. my sub woofer can shake the walls and i can feel it in my chest.

Movies with a slight adjustment: super clear, bass is just right.

Games: Point blank...unreal. i have a major advantage in Call of duty because i can hear people sneaking up behind me.

Music: Oh so lovely. i have to tweak the bass depending if its Rap, Jazz, or Rock, Etc...i hear you guys saying its not to good on music. not sure why you all say that i love it.

my only negative is that my room is shaped in a retarded way so the acoustics stink and the roof has those cheap tiles and that doesn't help.
post #138 of 308
I received my Pinnacle MB8000 from Dell today, but how come there's no wires come in the box??? I am a newbie, can anyone tell me where to buy wires for these bad boys?
post #139 of 308
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Originally Posted by pcboy View Post

I received my Pinnacle MB8000 from Dell today, but how come there's no wires come in the box??? I am a newbie, can anyone tell me where to buy wires for these bad boys?

Try Monoprice. You can click the link in the ad banner at the top of the page.
post #140 of 308
Are there any wall mount options for the MB8000 Side/Rear's ?
(we could use some better pics of these things)

EDIT: Ok, I see the keyhole and threaded insert on the spec sheet.
Anybody know the weight ?

Thanks
post #141 of 308
Center, Right & Left are about 6 lbs & Surrounds are abt 4 lbs.
post #142 of 308
Hi all,

Does anyone have any feedback on Pinnacles Ultrasonic Sub? They are currently discontinued and are on blowout sale all over the net. I was hoping someone has the sub or heard it and was hoping for some reviews/guidance/advice as to whether its worth the 650 for music and home theater applications.

thanks!
post #143 of 308
Has anyone used this sub/ comments?
thanks!

The price $199
post #144 of 308
After poking around on the Pinnacle website, I see the Sub-Sonix line is only sold by Amazon, this one is rated to 33Hz, and is probably a nice deal for a small room.
post #145 of 308
my pinnacles worked well at first but slowly fade in quality
post #146 of 308
Hi all,

Brand new to this forum, first post.

I recently upgraded my receiver to a used Yamaha RX-V3000. What a monster. My front mains are two Infinity Overture one speakers, held in high esteem by many.

I got an itch though and wanted new speakers, if not for my main home theater downstairs, for my second one upstairs in my office. I began my search and investigation, attempting to wade through the industry hype and retail markup as much as possible.

I've always liked the bright sound of Infinity and Polk. I recently auditioned a pair of Klipsch VF-35 and fell in love! However, I just can't justify the expense.

Just out of coincidence I located a pair of Pinnacle Digital Towers on eBay which originally priced at $895 MSRP, selling for $188 delivered:

(Search eBay item # 260676943881) New poster...can't past URL's yet.

After calling the engineering department at Pinnacle I am excited to receive these, as not only are these positioned as a great "Upper Mid-Fi" speaker, this engineer also thought it was a screaming deal, and knows the seller as one of their newest dealers.

I should have these installed and running in a week or so. I'll post results after initial tests.

Meanwhile, if anyone has any experience with either these or the Pinnacle S-Fit TWR-1050 (Apparently the same speaker) I'd sure like to hear your impressions.
post #147 of 308
I've had my new speakers for several weeks now, and after plenty of hours of break-in, I'm very pleased with the sound quality.

They're very natural in reproduction. Instruments such as piano (difficult to reproduce accurately) violin, and acoustic guitar sound awesome. Sufficient base, especially for such a small profile, however not a great concern as I run a 12" sub.

I've auditioned thoroughly with both two channel music and home theater use and at $188/pair I'm very impressed. So much so that I purchased a second pair for my upstairs home theater set up.

It seems unfortunate to me that Pinnacle isn't as well know as some of the other brands out there. They seem to be a great value.
post #148 of 308
Anyone own the QP 15 Sound Bar? Meijer has it for $489.99 (normally $1999.99 MSRP). Seems like a GREAT deal, but not sure about the sound of these. I currently have some JBL LF/RF/CTR and looking for a "cleaner" look
post #149 of 308
Hi all,

First up just like to thank everyone who posted their reviews and/or stories as I couldn't have made an informed purchase without them.

So I recently purchased the MB8000 and a Denon AVR-591 to make my first home theatre system. I've read on another thread that :

Quote:


"...sensitivity on the MB8000's is in the 86dB range, so they are not the most efficient speakers out there. The amount of power needed depends more on the room size and how hard you want to drive the speakers (listening level)."

So my question is more about the sound level on the receiver, as sometimes I need to drive this into positive territory (+1.0 dB or a bit more), and I always thought the dB's should usually remain negative. Plus my room size is quite small (I would say 20' x 10' but really the listening area is only about 10' x 10').

Is this to be expected? I also have ran the audyssey calibration.

Thanks again!
post #150 of 308
Hello All!

I'm fairly new to home theatre, but was wondering if anyone could comment on this sub (Pinnacle AC Sub 125) for home theatre use:

pinnaclespeakers.com/acsub100.html

I currently have an old sub from my first Yamaha home theatre in a box, and thought this might be a cheap upgrade (I just bought a house, so $$ is a bit tight ).

Dell has it today only for $99CDN, which sounds like a fantastic deal...

It would be used in a basement room 12x25 or so in a 1200sqfoot house...

Thanks for any feedback!

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