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post #301 of 308
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Originally Posted by cavchameleon View Post


It looks like the components are made up of the following:

BD 200 (for fronts and center)
http://pinnaclespeakers.com/bd200_ii.html

System Type: 3-Element, 2-Way, 2nd Order Acoustic Suspension

Component Drivers:

1" liquid cooled silk dome tweeter with neodymium magnet
(2) 3" polymer cone woofers with butyl surrounds
Frequency Response: 100 - 20 kHz (+/- 3 dB)

Frequency Range @ -6db: Low: 95 Hz, High: 22kHz

Crossover Frequencies: 5 kHz

Maximum Power Handling: 200 Watts Peak

Sensitivity: 91 dB @ 1 Watt / 0.5 Meter (2.83 Volts Pink Noise)

Nominal Impedance: 8 Ohms

Dimensions: 4 13/16" Wide x 11 3/4" High x 6 7/8" Deep (with Grille)

Finish: High gloss piano black

Weight: 7 lbs. each


BD 100 (I'm using these for the surrounds in my son's room, pretty good for that if your room is not too large).
http://pinnaclespeakers.com/bd100_ii.html

Component Drivers:

1" liquid cooled silk dome tweeter with neodymium magnet
3" polymer cone woofer with butyl surround
Frequency Response: 100 - 20 kHz (+/- 3 dB)

Frequency Range @ -6dB: Low: 95 Hz, High: 22 kHz

Crossover Frequency: 5 kHz

Maximum Power Handling: 125 Watts Peak

Sensitivity: 90 dB @ 1 Watt / 0.5 Meter (2.83 Volts Pink Noise)

Nominal Impedance: 8 Ohms

Dimensions: 4 13/16" Wide x 7 9/16" High x 6 3/4" Deep (with Grille)

Finish: High gloss piano black

Weight: 4 lbs. each


Sub looks like their value series sub, the PS Sub 225
http://pinnaclespeakers.com/acsub125.html
It's not one of their good subs IMO. You need to get into their Sonic or Rhino series to get their good ones. Their SubCompact series are also good for very small subs (they are SMALL).

 

Thank you for the great advice and help.  Looks like I will not be going in that direction.

post #302 of 308
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Originally Posted by epitome1170 View Post

Thank you for the great advice and help.  Looks like I will not be going in that direction.

No problem. I just looked at the WOOT link and it's $400 for the system, pretty good. But, if you have the funds, I'd be better to go with the BD500 all the way around and a better sub.
AS confynumb suggest, a tower may be the way to go, but cost a lot more. WOOT has the BD 2500 on sale, pretty good specs. And you could hold of on a sub temporarily.

System Type: 3-Way, 4-Element, 4th Order Front Vented
Component Drivers:
1" liquid cooled modified silk domed horn (dhorm) tweeter for efficiency and accurate reproduction of the most sensitive nuances of the recording. Ultra compact, high-powered rare earth neodymium magnet. Precision, pressure-fit mounting system for a neat and clean look.
4" midrange with polypropylene cone material. Lightweight and strong for enhanced accuracy and power handling. Butyl rubber surround for enhanced excursion and smooth response. Zinc plated die cast phase plug improves crossover function by suppressing upper harmonic resonance modes.
(2) 6.5" woofers with polypropylene cone material. Lightweight and strong for enhanced accuracy and power handling. Butyl rubber surrounds for enhanced excursion and smooth response. Solid die cast baskets diminish resonance.
Frequency Response: 30 Hz - 25 kHz (+/- 3 dB)
Operative Power Range: 25 - 250 Watts, 400 Watts Peak
Sensitivity: 94 dB @ 1 Watt / 0.5 Meter (2.83 Volts Pink Noise)
Nominal Impedance: 8 Ohms
Dimensions: 7 7/8" Wide x 39" High x 14 3/8" Deep (with Grille and Isolation Cones attached)
Finish: High Gloss Piano Black
Weight: 50 lbs
post #303 of 308
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Originally Posted by cavchameleon View Post

I Agree!!! The speakers are actually pretty good. I wish they were sealed and not ported, but for the prices sold through WOOT, they just can't be beat. Here is a pic of the front stage of my Son's room. They are up high so his friends don't go poking them, he's very good with electronics and taking care of them (and only 7yo).



His room is actually all black since it's a planetarium (total top is covered with stars and planets).



I'll have to keep Woot in mind.

They look great and are a great value IMO.

My black diamond piano finish takes a week to make in the factory. I just thought that was awesome for the price. They look so good I caught my daughter putting her makeup on using it instead of the mirror biggrin.gif
post #304 of 308
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I'll have to keep Woot in mind.

They look great and are a great value IMO.

My black diamond piano finish takes a week to make in the factory. I just thought that was awesome for the price. They look so good I caught my daughter putting her makeup on using it instead of the mirror biggrin.gif

Ha, that's funny. They are very well finished and very shiny. I also have NHT's and the finish on them (the Classic series, not the Super Zero) is better (smoother and more refined). But, I like the way Pinnacle does their grills with metal pegs instead of plastic with most other manufactures use. The NHT's are also more solid: example, the Classic 2 and the BD 500 are in the same class (same size, two diver). The BD 500 is 18lbs/pr, the Classic 2 is 16lbs each (so 32lbs/pr).

Having said that, at sale prices, the Pinnacles are great bargains!!! You get a lot of speaker for the money and they sound great. They also have sensitivity going for them (The NHT Fours are 86db while the Pinnacle BD 2500 is 94db). The difference is pretty huge (8db, like quadrupling the power of the AVR/AMP). It really comes down to what people want. I've always preferred sealed speaker designs for the most part. Pinnacle speakers can easily compete with other brands within their class/price range but they are not advertised well so are not well known (as is NHT which is purchased mostly ID). There are many others that compete in this range like Aperion Audio, SVS, PSB, Paradigm, etc. It's a hard market, LOTS of great speakers at pretty much the same price which is why I always recommend that buyers go out and listen to them if at all possible since it's the most subjective part of the audio chain. Electronics within the same price range pretty much sounds the same (disregarding room correction differences), but speakers really do have an acoustic signature. I've actually heard some VERY expensive ones I did not prefer (and some that were absolutely incredible also).
post #305 of 308
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Originally Posted by cavchameleon View Post

Ha, that's funny. They are very well finished and very shiny. I also have NHT's and the finish on them (the Classic series, not the Super Zero) is better (smoother and more refined). But, I like the way Pinnacle does their grills with metal pegs instead of plastic with most other manufactures use. The NHT's are also more solid: example, the Classic 2 and the BD 500 are in the same class (same size, two diver). The BD 500 is 18lbs/pr, the Classic 2 is 16lbs each (so 32lbs/pr).

Having said that, at sale prices, the Pinnacles are great bargains!!! You get a lot of speaker for the money and they sound great. They also have sensitivity going for them (The NHT Fours are 86db while the Pinnacle BD 2500 is 94db). The difference is pretty huge (8db, like quadrupling the power of the AVR/AMP). It really comes down to what people want. I've always preferred sealed speaker designs for the most part. Pinnacle speakers can easily compete with other brands within their class/price range but they are not advertised well so are not well known (as is NHT which is purchased mostly ID). There are many others that compete in this range like Aperion Audio, SVS, PSB, Paradigm, etc. It's a hard market, LOTS of great speakers at pretty much the same price which is why I always recommend that buyers go out and listen to them if at all possible since it's the most subjective part of the audio chain. Electronics within the same price range pretty much sounds the same (disregarding room correction differences), but speakers really do have an acoustic signature. I've actually heard some VERY expensive ones I did not prefer (and some that were absolutely incredible also).


I agree they are well built and the grills are NOT coming off easily.

I've never heard the NHT's they sound nice.

It seems like you get a lot for the money with the Pinnacle's.

Have you ever heard their black diamond towers?
post #306 of 308
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I agree they are well built and the grills are NOT coming off easily.

I've never heard the NHT's they sound nice.

It seems like you get a lot for the money with the Pinnacle's.

Have you ever heard their black diamond towers?

I've heard most of the Pinnacle speakers, but not the flagship 2500. They all sound pretty good. Yes, NHT's are very good sounding and very accurate. Their Classic Three and the Four Tower have all metal drivers (the Fours actually is a four-way system and can easily reach 25 Hz in room (they are spec'ed at 27Hz in an anechoic chamber). They play very accurately and clean - one of my favorite speakers in it's price range (all of their speakers are very good for their price). You don't see the massive sales like Pinnacle, but the Fours normal price is $1200, which can compete with any tower in that price range (and up from there a bit).
post #307 of 308
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Originally Posted by cavchameleon View Post

I've heard most of the Pinnacle speakers, but not the flagship 2500. They all sound pretty good. Yes, NHT's are very good sounding and very accurate. Their Classic Three and the Four Tower have all metal drivers (the Fours actually is a four-way system and can easily reach 25 Hz in room (they are spec'ed at 27Hz in an anechoic chamber). They play very accurately and clean - one of my favorite speakers in it's price range (all of their speakers are very good for their price). You don't see the massive sales like Pinnacle, but the Fours normal price is $1200, which can compete with any tower in that price range (and up from there a bit).



You definitely know more about them than I do.

I would like to here a set of their good towers.
post #308 of 308
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Originally Posted by Mrbaduchi View Post

So should it be making noise every time it plugs in and turns off?
 

As I understand it that 'Value Series' sub does not have the auto-off feature employed on their higher end models: http://www.pinnaclespeakers.com/subwoofers.html

 

FWIW, you should know that most auto-off circuits only mute the amplifier outputs and do not actually save any real power (they're on all the time waiting for a signal) and they do have some downsides such as delayed activation and turn-on 'pops' (the only reason yours is popping is you are disconnecting the power to it...or your receiver has a 'pop' on its Sub Out when turned on/off).  The standby power draw of those amps is ~5 Watts (~3 cents per day) so if the 'pop' is an issue it would seem best to just leave the sub plugged in / left on.  :)

my .02,

b


Edited by brittania - 3/11/14 at 10:40pm
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