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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Have a pioneer vsx-d514. The voume at its lowest setting goes to -94 and its loudest at -10. I can only hear through the speakers when it reaches -35 or so. so its as if im only getting a third of the ausio output from the receiver. All the speakers do work, have it set to 4.1. Four speakers and a sub.
post #2 of 23
When did you last have your hearing checked?

Otherwise, are your speakers calibrated properly?
post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

When did you last have your hearing checked?

Otherwise, are your speakers calibrated properly?

Also what is the sound floor of your room? Is it sound proofed? If not ambient noise levels can easily be 40dB or more.
post #4 of 23
Make sure that you don't have attenuation turned on.

I have an old VSX-D509s that acts similarly although I think the disply actually runs past "0" and into the + side if I'm not mistaken - this may have to do with how you have the speakers dialed-in. I am assuming that the unit gets pleanty loud but that the numbers don't make sense - right? I thought my receiver was defective too but it's normal.

I also have a VSX-92TXH and an SC-07. Both offer no real audible sound until I hit about -50.
post #5 of 23
Thread Starter 
The system is pretty loud when turned way up. Its the numbers on the dial that had me wondering. It seems strange that there is no audible sound until im 2/3rds of the way into the dial. I have turned off the attenuation and that does make a difference but only on the higher end of the volume.
post #6 of 23
How big is your room?

What speakers do you own?

The 514 is a very low cost receiver with minimum true watts so if your speakers have low sensitivity you wont here much.

Go to RadioShack and buy the Digital SPL meter. You will then know if its your hearing or your room.
post #7 of 23
Check the "relative" volume setting for each channel/speaker. Make sure each one is set to 0dB (or perhaps a tad higher). Adjusting process should be described in your manual.
post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 
All speakers are sony. 2 towers with 5 speakers each this includes the tweeter. and 2 smaller bookshelf style with a 5" and tweeter. The sub is a klh with a 10" and its externally powered. I just tried changing the db levels for each speaker they were all at 9db. Changed them to 2db and now the receiver will go to -2 on the volume. And it does seem louder without ruining the sound quality. Think im on the right track, thanks for all the input.
post #9 of 23
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... they were all at 9db. Changed them to 2db and now the receiver will go to -2 on the volume.

Were they at "-9" and you changed them to "+2"?
post #10 of 23
So, the speakers were set to +9dB and now at +2dB. Can you now begin to hear anything at -42 instead of -35 dB? If it stays at -35 dB, that indicates a problem with the receiver.

Still surprising. I can hear anything past the mute setting and my receiver goes to -90 dB. I watch TV at -45 dB or so.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

So, the speakers were set to +9dB and now at +2dB.

That hasn't been answered yet.

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Still surprising. I can hear anything past the mute setting and my receiver goes to -90 dB. I watch TV at -45 dB or so.

Do you have the same make/model receiver?
post #12 of 23
Seems to me that based on the OP's three posts:

a. His system is totally uncalibrated,

b. He doesn't know how to calibrate his system,

c. He doesn't know what calibrating the system even means.

With all the numbers being tossed about, I don't think the OP has a clue as to what is going on in his system. Unless the OP calibrates his system as suggested by several people, all this is meaningless.
post #13 of 23
Proper setup and understanding what the "numbers" mean helps.
Yes, I agree. Mostly "pilot error" IMHO.

Some help, direction and education should resolve the issues/concerns.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by jdenison75 View Post

All speakers are sony. 2 towers with 5 speakers each this includes the tweeter. and 2 smaller bookshelf style with a 5" and tweeter. The sub is a klh with a 10" and its externally powered. I just tried changing the db levels for each speaker they were all at 9db. Changed them to 2db and now the receiver will go to -2 on the volume. And it does seem louder without ruining the sound quality. Think im on the right track, thanks for all the input.

All speakers are sony?? that is meaningless.

can you post the specs??
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ratman View Post

That hasn't been answered yet.

I didn't find it confusing...

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Originally Posted by Ratman View Post

Do you have the same make/model receiver?

No, but a dB is a dB.
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

I didn't find it confusing...



No, but a dB is a dB.

You interpreted "9 db" as "+9 db". Ratman interpreted it as "-9 db".

When the OP said "each speaker they were all at 9db. Changed them to 2db" did he INCREASE the level to 2 db or DECREASE the level to 2 db? Is it +2 db or -2 db? THAT is confusing. IMHO when talking trim levels it is imperative that the proper sign be used at all times.
post #17 of 23
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No, but a dB is a dB.

LOL... but I'd question whether -45 dB on your receiver is the same volume as -45 dB on any/every other receiver?
post #18 of 23
Uh, did you check to make sure the output wasn't muted? Often MUTE isn't a total mute, but it just turns down the volume a fixed amount, say 30dB or so...
post #19 of 23
Like attenuation? That was supposedly addressed in posts 4 and 5.
post #20 of 23
Thread Starter 
Well the issue has been fixed. I recently moved the system and was pretty sure i had everything as it was but apparently it wasnt how i initially had it set up. So yes is was op error. I would like to thank everyone for the help. And address a couple of the other comments that were made. I assumed that when saying i went from 9db to 2db it was implied that this was +db on both cases. I mainly frequent engine building forums as this is what i do is build high performance engines for 60's muscle cars. And in that process as with any machining application the value expressed is + unless stated as -. Much like the case in my first post when referencing the volume in a -. And i was able to pull my head out long enough to figure out what calibrating the system means. That was just a childish statement. At least your behind a computer and not in a room full of all the people that have posted to this thread. It would be amusing to sit around with everyone and hear you try to question my competency for understanding something techinical. Only to realize that what i do is deal with mathmatical equations daily. Here is a link if you still think im unable to follow instructions or figure something out. Just a short example of what i do. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...gine-math-101/ And once again, thanks to all of those who helped.
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by jdenison75 View Post

Well the issue has been fixed. I recently moved the system and was pretty sure i had everything as it was but apparently it wasnt how i initially had it set up. So yes is was op error.

I think everyone would like to know just what it was you did to correct the problem.

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Originally Posted by jdenison75 View Post

I would like to thank everyone for the help. And address a couple of the other comments that were made. I assumed that when saying i went from 9db to 2db it was implied that this was +db on both cases. I mainly frequent engine building forums as this is what i do is build high performance engines for 60's muscle cars. And in that process as with any machining application the value expressed is + unless stated as -. Much like the case in my first post when referencing the volume in a -. And i was able to pull my head out long enough to figure out what calibrating the system means. That was just a childish statement. At least your behind a computer and not in a room full of all the people that have posted to this thread. It would be amusing to sit around with everyone and hear you try to question my competency for understanding something techinical. Only to realize that what i do is deal with mathmatical equations daily. Here is a link if you still think im unable to follow instructions or figure something out. Just a short example of what i do. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...gine-math-101/ And once again, thanks to all of those who helped.

Not sure what your point is here. Doesn't really sound like you are thanking anyone. I have found that there are a lot of smart people in this forum who don't have a clue how to operate their receivers or balance a system.

Oh, and here is what I do for fun when I am not watching a movie:

http://www.bills1964galaxie500.com/

http://www.novaccc.org/
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by jdenison75 View Post

Well the issue has been fixed.

So yes is was op error.

I assumed that when saying i went from 9db to 2db it was implied that this was +db on both cases.

What was the "problem"?

No not implied at all since the relative volume adjustment scale on your receiver (I believe) goes from -10 to +10, with 0 dB being the default value. Huge difference.

Also... if you adjusted from +9 to +2, you actually lowered the relative volume.

I am also confused with your comments. I don't know whether to say "your welcome" or .......
post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ratman View Post

What was the "problem"?

No not implied at all since the relative volume adjustment scale on your receiver (I believe) goes from -10 to +10, with 0 dB being the default value. Huge difference.

Also... if you adjusted from +9 to +2, you actually lowered the relative volume.

I am also confused with your comments. I don't know whether to say "your welcome" or .......

We all know what happens when you "assume" something.

Whatever the problem was, let's hope the OP doesn't make similar errors when he is machining someone's engine.

I would take his comments as backhanded compliments and be done with it.
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