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post #31 of 43
11/17/09 at 8:01am
My dad was in Vietnam and says that every single Hollywood film about the war is crap. My point being that there is no definitive Vietnam film, it was a different experience for each person that was there.
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post #32 of 43
11/17/09 at 10:08am
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Although Mash was set in 1950s "Korea" everybody knew that it was really 1960s Vietnam.

MASH was a cleaver propaganda twist to transpose the 60's anti war sentiment into a 50's pro war situation.

Had little to do with any particular war and everything to do about the politics at play.

A similar ploy was used with "All In The Family" by attracting viewers with Archie's racist/sexist behavior, while "teaching" the audience how evil these behaviors were.
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post #33 of 43
11/17/09 at 10:33am
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MASH was a cleaver propaganda twist to transpose the 60's anti war sentiment into a 50's pro war situation.

Had little to do with any particular war and everything to do about the politics at play.

That's doesn't seem to tie in with what Robert Altman says about which war it is supposed to be, on the DVD commentary track.
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post #34 of 43
11/17/09 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

My point being that there is no definitive Vietnam film, it was a different experience for each person that was there.

ABSOLUTELY AGREE, almost no one seems to understand that.


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MASH was a cleaver propaganda twist to transpose the 60's anti war sentiment into a 50's pro war situation.

Had little to do with any particular war and everything to do about the politics at play.

A similar ploy was used with "All In The Family" by attracting viewers with Archie's racist/sexist behavior, while "teaching" the audience how evil these behaviors were.

The word "propaganda" is a bit harsh to describe this stuff IMO.
I would use the word "skewering."
That era was all about breaking from the past, breaking from established behaviors and attitudes.
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post #35 of 43
11/17/09 at 5:16pm
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My draft lottery # was 124. I get it and experienced the times first hand. I just didn't think it was a great movie, politics aside.

aydu,

Thanks for replying & please accept my apology for my snotty post. When I read your reply I realized mine was uncalled for.

You & I are in the same age group and so many posters here are so much younger that they have no connection to what happened then. I guess I get tired of some of the brush-off posts I've gotten telling me to go away from a thread, that my viewpoint isn't relevant & sometimes now reply in kind....no excuse for me doing the same, I know . I'm supposed to be an adult

Peace to you also. Mine was 268. I had college friends who graduated in '69-70 with numbers like 7, they knew exactly where they were going.

Still sorry you didn't think more of DH tho,

ss9001
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post #36 of 43
11/17/09 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

My dad was in Vietnam and says that every single Hollywood film about the war is crap. My point being that there is no definitive Vietnam film, it was a different experience for each person that was there.

That is not what I heard about Platoon. People I spoke to who were there said after seeing it once, they couldn't see it again as it was so realistic it brought back haunting memories. I know my friends and I were into it so much we saw it 3 times in a week and after that we had our fill as it seemed too intense and had such a strong impact.

Having said the above, no movie can ever really portray how any situation EXACTLY was or is, hence the only way to experience it is by being there and I would think war in particular on film, more than any other topic, cannot ever really give one the actual or true feeling of like being there.
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post #37 of 43
11/18/09 at 10:43am
Excellent PQ or Excellent Edge Enhancement? Okay it's not too bad (way better than most Universal titles) but it should be noted.

Liked this film but the running time is killer.
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post #38 of 43
11/18/09 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

aydu,

Thanks for replying & please accept my apology for my snotty post. When I read your reply I realized mine was uncalled for.

You & I are in the same age group and so many posters here are so much younger that they have no connection to what happened then. I guess I get tired of some of the brush-off posts I've gotten telling me to go away from a thread, that my viewpoint isn't relevant & sometimes now reply in kind....no excuse for me doing the same, I know . I'm supposed to be an adult

Peace to you also. Mine was 268. I had college friends who graduated in '69-70 with numbers like 7, they knew exactly where they were going.

Still sorry you didn't think more of DH tho,

ss9001

No worries.

Movies are like items on a restaurant menu. If everyone liked the same thing, they'd be sold out and ultimately your choices would be narrowed down to variations of the favorite.

There is already enough copy catting going on in the movie business, so having a variety, that satisfies a good number of tastes, is good.

The Deer Hunter certainly got it's fair share of praise from people a lot more influential than me, so my not adding it to my collection probably won't cause anybody involved with the film to have to live out on the streets or anything.
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post #39 of 43
11/18/09 at 1:25pm
[quote=oink;17552387]ABSOLUTELY AGREE, almost no one seems to understand that.
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If nobody understands something, there is a real chance that the point being made is incorrect.

People who see something that nobody else can grasp are either geniuses, or nutty.
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post #40 of 43
11/18/09 at 1:39pm
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That is not what I heard about Platoon. People I spoke to who were there said after seeing it once, they couldn't see it again as it was so realistic it brought back haunting memories. I know my friends and I were into it so much we saw it 3 times in a week and after that we had our fill as it seemed too intense and had such a strong impact.

Having said the above, no movie can ever really portray how any situation EXACTLY was or is, hence the only way to experience it is by being there and I would think war in particular on film, more than any other topic, cannot ever really give one the actual or true feeling of like being there.

My dad says Platoon is crap. He is a Veitnam infantry combat vet :shrug:
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post #41 of 43
11/18/09 at 1:50pm
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Excellent PQ or Excellent Edge Enhancement? Okay it's not too bad (way better than most Universal titles) but it should be noted.

Liked this film but the running time is killer.

Just so you know, most often when DVD beaver is linked it goes to some default page and not what I think the poster intended us to see.
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post #42 of 43
11/18/09 at 2:28pm
Yeah, I know. You have to have already been to the page for the link to work. Is there a work around?
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post #43 of 43
11/18/09 at 2:28pm
For every war, the war experience is different for every soldier.
No two soldiers experience or see the same thing during their time of service.
Just as no two witnesses see or experience the same thing during an auto accident.

Movies cannot reflect every veteran's experience.
I have talked to veterans of WW2 forward and almost without exception they consider Hollywood movies of their wars to be bullpoop.
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