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Focus problem on Runco 980 Ultra (NEC 9PGXtra)

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Cant get the left and right sides to focus at all on green and somewhat on red (blue you cant tell anyway!) I have used first optical focus and also electronic focus, but sides are very blurry. There is no point where optical focus will be sharp at all.

The setting.
Currently its floor mounted. Distance to screen is about 10 ft projecting on a 110' width screen. Raster set up for 16:9 about 6mm from the edge on the longest side. Green tube is about a 6, red is 7.5, blue is 9

I adjusted the raster using the amplitude control- since I dont see any other option (unlike an XG) of increasing the raster. I set it to about 6mm from the sides on teh longest edge. Centered the image using shift. Set the phase adjustments. I have measured the projector distance to the front wall to make sure its nice and square and the cross-hairs land solid on the center.

Seems like previous owner had mucked around with the astig- the dots were triangular. I set the astig so that the center points are nice and round. Left edge they are still kinda squashed big dots and the right ones small dots (I can put up a picture if it helps).

Possible problems- that I can think of
1. Its too close to the screen. I moved the projector till I got an image from my HTPC to the width of teh screen. If ist too close, it will mean that the raster has to be made smaller. Is there any other control other than amplitude for changing the ratser size ?

2. Focus coil
Guy Kuo in one of his posts says that moving the coil will make the balance of teh focus between edge and side better. Shoudl I try this ? On the PGXtra, which is teh coil ? There are 2 turning-knob things there.

3. Green tube is burnt , so wont focus
Judging from teh posts, it seems like I should still get a useable image. Right now, edges are pathetic. Green tube is like a 6 and teh raster is within burny area.

4. Scheimpflug
I think not, since then with optical focus i would have got at aleast one point where edge would be in focus, center blurry. There is no way to get teh focus right optically.

Thank you.
post #2 of 15
Is your projector square to the screen?
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Yup perfectly square.

This is how I did it. Measured from sides of screen wall to screws on projector side. Then placed a mirror and ensured that the green cross hair reflected back on to itself.

Also, even if teh projector wasnt square, I should have been able to focus it optically on one edge (with other edge and center focussed out)- there is no such edge.
post #4 of 15
Hi there

> Distance to screen is about 10 ft projecting on a 110' width screen

110 feet???
Ten feet for 110 inches seems too close (assuming you have HD145 lenses).
I have a 6PG+ 11.6' from a 96" wide screen; the raster size is more conservative (1/2 inch or 12 mm per Curt's guide) than what you are running.

You mention an HTPC. If that's your video source, then the image width can be increased by reducing the horizontal porches. What is the GPU (nVidia, ATI)?

Regards
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Sorry typo there- 110 inch width screen (16:9) with HD-145n lenses.

HTPC with nVidia 8600gt. PowerStrip at 720p.

I will try the porch settings after moving it back. With one person, it took me hours to get it finally centered, so I would try that as a last resort!
post #6 of 15
Sounds like your Scheimpflug tabs are misadjusted.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
I crosss-checked teh tabs- and they are set to specs. R and B at 3 and 3, while green is at 1,3 ( I forget which one's A and which ones B- but its set according to the table).

Curt, did you mean that the tabs may be misaligned internally ?

Anything else guys- any light on the focus coil adjust ?
post #8 of 15
Have you looked into the tube faces with sunglasses on, and are all the Hs clear on each side and the corners? If so, then you're right, the problem is optical. The tabs may be off, hte markings aren't always right.

If the Hs are NOT in focus on the tube faces on the sides, then your focus or astig board is bad.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
hello Curt, that was a brilliant idea of separating the electronic problem from the optical focus!

So, I checked and the H pattern on teh edges are smeared bad. So, now anyway of checking whether its teh focus or astig board ?

Thanks,
post #10 of 15
$5 on F drive.

The A drive never fails.
post #11 of 15
Aha, so it wasn't an optical problem!

F drive for sure. I can repair yours or sell you a rebuilt one if you're not a tech. Email me at curtpalme@shaw.ca. I'm out of town on Friday for a week, but I can send before that if you get back to me in time.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Curt Palme View Post

Have you looked into the tube faces with sunglasses on, ...

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Aha, so it wasn't an optical problem!

Hi there

I thought that was too obvious a step to mention, and the OP would have done this already.
Especially after the OP mentioned his clever mirror trick to square up the PJ wrt the screen. I don't recall anyone else mentioning a mirror for PJ setup.

Regards
post #13 of 15
Having troubleshot maybe 6000 sets via phone and emaill (no exaggeration!), you learn not to ASS-U-ME.

post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
> I thought that was too obvious a step to mention, and the OP would have done this already.

Sorry! Still a newbie here as you can see. The mirror trick I read in some post when I was looking for tricks of getting the PJ square.
post #15 of 15
Hai... I hope your Lens is not working properly. you should clean this lens or check the lens projection is in square or not.
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