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post #271 of 373
I have been lurking in this thread along with the 4810 thread... The cost difference between these two makes me lean towards the Onkyo but I have had nothing but Denon receivers for the past 8 years.

Anybody else been doing the same thing? It seems like they are pretty darn close in features..
post #272 of 373
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I have been lurking in this thread along with the 4810 thread... The cost difference between these two makes me lean towards the Onkyo but I have had nothing but Denon receivers for the past 8 years.

Anybody else been doing the same thing? It seems like they are pretty darn close in features..

i went with the onkyo, pandora is very nice to have. if denon had pandora i would have jumped to denon. but i ultimately went with a onkyo pr-sc5507 after having the onkyo tx-nr3007 moved to my room. pandora is great! and the price is right.
post #273 of 373
I put in a DVD (not blu ray) and the video was horrible. Very very grainy. I then tried a bluray, and it wasn't much better. Must be something to do with the video upconversion or video settings on the receiver. I played around with them changing from "Through" (no upconversion, just pass through signal) to "Auto" (letting the receiver decide) to "1080p" and to "1080p/24" - none seemed to make a difference. What could be the issue? Any info would be great b/c I have REALLY high hopes for this monster and so far i'm kinda discouraged... Thanks in advance!

PS - all connections are HDMI.

I didn't have this problem with my $300 Panasonic receiver... that didn't do upconversion.
post #274 of 373
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I have been lurking in this thread along with the 4810 thread... The cost difference between these two makes me lean towards the Onkyo but I have had nothing but Denon receivers for the past 8 years.

Anybody else been doing the same thing? It seems like they are pretty darn close in features..

I jumped from Denon to the Onkyo 3007 because of the price difference and have found the performance is just as good. All things being equal I still prefer Denon since IMO they are a little more tweaker friendly while I think the Onkyo is more user friendly. However, now that I’ve got the tweaking with this 3007 out of my system it’s no longer an issue.
post #275 of 373
Dear all,

I just bought my Onkyo 3007 Last week and I must say that i am very happy with it.
I have B&W 604 speakers as front speakers and am planning to buy 2 more of those and add a subwoofer plus a center speaker.
At the moment I added a center speaker and 4 tower speakers (LG) from my previous system to already have some surround sound.
I have just one "complaint" I am little disappointed in the volume level.
I was expecting it could go a lot louder than it does.
My audio-cd's sound the loudest on the system, but when I put a dvd I can put the sound to them max and I am just little disappointed in the volume it produces.
I wonder how you people experienced it and maybe how you solved it.

Regards,
Michel
post #276 of 373
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Originally Posted by brian3b View Post

I put in a DVD (not blu ray) and the video was horrible. Very very grainy. I then tried a bluray, and it wasn't much better. Must be something to do with the video upconversion or video settings on the receiver. I played around with them changing from "Through" (no upconversion, just pass through signal) to "Auto" (letting the receiver decide) to "1080p" and to "1080p/24" - none seemed to make a difference. What could be the issue? Any info would be great b/c I have REALLY high hopes for this monster and so far i'm kinda discouraged... Thanks in advance!

PS - all connections are HDMI.

I didn't have this problem with my $300 Panasonic receiver... that didn't do upconversion.

Have you resolved this issue? I don't have any such problems with DVD, Blu-ray, or cable using the 3007.
post #277 of 373
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Originally Posted by wirefall View Post

For the past decade, I have proudly proclaimed to be a Yamaha guy. The bang for the buck was just unbeatable. When upgrading my system this past year I bought a Yamaha RX-V3900 and if not for a faulty audio processing system, I would have been very happy with it. Since, I was in the market for other options, I considered Denon and Onkyo. The new Onkyos really are a superb value, but are by no means a panacea. I'd still consider the Yamaha superior musically; I believe their proprietary DSPs to be far superior to Onkyos. But, Yamaha also only supports their own version of 9-channel decoding, instead of industry standard like Audyssey. Also, Yamaha didn't support Rhapsody, but neither does Onkyo over Zone 2. Yamaha's network interface is currently far superior to Onkyo with just about every control available over the network including Zone 2 and 3 input selection. Onkyo's web interface provides almost no value, really only allowing one to add Internet radio stations, which could just as easily be done with the OSD. This may be addressed in future firmware releases, but currently it's not even worth considering being network connected. Yamaha even has an iPhone app for controlling LAN connected receivers! There is a forum on this site, http://www.avforums.com/forums/onkyo...ogramming.html, that allows additional control, but this requires a separate always-on computer and really should be built-in as the Yamaha's is.

Even with the limitations of the Onkyo, I consider it a better deal than comparable Yamahas. I wouldn't say that I'm an Onkyo guy, like I did Yamaha, but I'm keeping my TX-NR3007 so it can't be that bad ;-)

Hope this helps you decide. I can't see anyone being disappointed in the 3007 as long as they have the right expectations.

Cheers,

Dustin (wirefall)

I also consider myself a Yamaha person. I'm happy with my RX-V1800, but it lacks some things I want. The YPAO room "correction" is okay, but I understand that Audyssey MultEQ is better. I have two subs in an acoustically challenging room, and I'd like a receiver that would equalize them independently. Does the 3007 do that?

I also would like upconversion of SD sources, all through HDMI. Finally, I'd like to have an OSD over HDMI.

I'm concerned about the clicking noises. My Yammie is absolutely silent when switching between sound modes. I'm also concerned about dropouts with my Uverse box.

Would the 3007 give me what I want, without introducing problems that I don't have with my 1800?
post #278 of 373
I just purchased the NR 3007 , so I am reading up on how to use Audyssey EQ XT . The AVSForum Audyssey setup guide recommends that I set the Subwoofer gain control so that the Receiver trim is about centered before running the full Audyssey setup. Is there someplace in the menu where I can see the receiver settings after a first pass of Audyssey? ie is there an equiv in Onkyo to Denon's 'check parameter" ? Maybe its not required in Onkyo ? Tks
post #279 of 373
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Originally Posted by sportflyer View Post

I just purchased the NR 3007 , so I am reading up on how to use Audyssey EQ XT . The AVSForum Audyssey setup guide recommends that I set the Subwoofer gain control so that the Receiver trim is about centered before running the full Audyssey setup. Is there someplace in the menu where I can see the receiver settings after a first pass of Audyssey? ie is there an equiv in Onkyo to Denon's 'check parameter" ? Maybe its not required in Onkyo ? Tks

Nope.
You could try to roughly dial it in with a SPL meter first.
And/or, leave the mic in the same position for the first 3 measurements/passes and check the trim level, adjust the gain and
start again until you got the gain set correctly.
Leaving the mic in the same position will save you some time since you can run through the measurements quite quickly without moving the mic.
Then you can start over and doing all 8 measurements/passes with different locations.
post #280 of 373
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

Nope.
You could try to roughly dial it in with a SPL meter first.
And/or, leave the mic in the same position for the first 3 measurements/passes and check the trim level, adjust the gain and
start again until you got the gain set correctly.
Leaving the mic in the same position will save you some time since you can run through the measurements quite quickly without moving the mic.
Then you can start over and doing all 8 measurements/passes with different locations.

Thanks for inputs.

Currently I have the sub power level adjusted to match my speakers already with SPL meter and AVIA 2 . The sub trim setting in the AVR HK7200 is -1 db so it should be close.

Are you saying I should make 3 complete passes with mic in same position then check subwoofer trim? Is one pass not enough to check the Onkyo subwoofer setting since I believe the subwoofer level is already quite close.

Is there a simple way to check the speaker settings directly from Audyssey after calculation without saving? I guess it really does not matter since the next set of measurements will overide the first ?
post #281 of 373
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Originally Posted by sportflyer View Post

Thanks for inputs.

Currently I have the sub power level adjusted to match my speakers already with SPL meter and AVIA 2 . The sub trim setting in the AVR HK7200 is -1 db so it should be close.

Are you saying I should make 3 complete passes with mic in same position then check subwoofer trim? Is one pass not enough to check the Onkyo subwoofer setting since I believe the subwoofer level is already quite close.

Is there a simple way to check the speaker settings directly from Audyssey after calculation without saving? I guess it really does not matter since the next set of measurements will overide the first ?

You need to run a minimum of 3 positions/passes but it is only the first position that sets the levels/trims but you have to do 3 before "Finish(Calculate)" shows up in the menu.
When the calculations are complete, you can view the calculated settings for the speaker configuration, speaker distances, and speaker levels by using the Left and Right arrow buttons before hitting "Save".
post #282 of 373
I just got a tx-nr3007. For some reason it cannot lock the hdmi signal from any of my sources. I have two monitors running of the main and sub hdmi output. The best I can get is a signal (audio & video) for about a 30 second (this keeps repeating). Any help would be great!
post #283 of 373
How long are your HDMI runs from the receiver to your displays? Long runs, with poor cables, could be the problem.

I recommend HDMI cables from Parts Express.com. They are excellent and cheap.

Good luck,
Scott
post #284 of 373
Whooo Hoooo! Just pulled the trigger and now an offical member of the 3007 club.
post #285 of 373
Well I've had my 3007 for almost 3 weeks now. Thought I'd leave a little review here, remember just my opinion, not trying to upset anyone .

For a little background I have the new 600 series B&W speakers hooked up to a B&K AVR 505 receiver which pushes out 150 watts per channel 8 ohms all channels driven. It is a beast and I love the sound but of course miss the HDMI capabilities. I use an Arcam DV137 as a music source and an Oppo for DVD and a PS3 for bluray. My listening is prob 60 percent music and 40 percent movies.

That being said I was impressed with the build quality of the Onkyo. Almost weighed as much as my B&K, but I should note the B&K is only a five channel receiver vs. the nine channel Onkyo.

Hooking up the Onkyo to my 1080p Samsung, I had no picture issues or dropouts. I set my Oppo to 480i and allowed the Onkyo to scale to 1080p via HDMI. Killer picture, I feel that the video processing in the Onkyo bested the scaling in the 983. Just seemed to be sharper and more colorful than what the Oppo does. Blurays looked great, actually everything did when run through the Onkyo including my HD satellite box.

Movie soundtracks were very good. Not fantastic, but very good. So many different selections to choose from for sound modes, it was fun to flip through all of them. It is amazing how good the lossless codecs sounded, streamed to the Onkyo via HDMI from the PS3 in multi channel PCM.

Then I decided to try music listening. This is where the Onkyo came up short in my opinion. 2 channel listening just did not sound right. The midrange was detailed, but the bass was lacking and the highs just sounded like something was missing. Very flat. I tried with analog outs from my Arcam, I tried digital in from my Oppo, I tried with Audyssey engaged and disengaged. It didn't matter, the music seemed lifeless. I had been so excited to see the high quality phono jacks for both the CD and the turntable input, but they didn't seem to help the sound any. Streaming SACD and DVD Audio via HDMI didn't sound as good as I hoped either, though it was of course much better than the stereo sound of the CD input.

Speaking of the turntable input, man why do they even bother putting these cheap things in? The phono preamp is definitely a cheapy, I found that compared to my budget Cambridge Audio preamp it wasn't even close to the same league.

I pulled the Onkyo out tonight and put the B&K back in hooked everything up and was back in audio nirvanna again. Sure I don't have all the latest and greatest bells and whistles, but I do have that quality two channel sound and I guess I'll just have to put up with that until one of these higher end receivers with HDMI comes down in price. So the Onkyo will be returned tomorrow, if I was to keep it I would have to purchase a stereo preamp with HT bypass and a separate amp to go with it.

Pros:
Great video processing
Good detailed midrange
Great connectivity
Audyssey

Cons:
Music listening, especially stereo is lacking in bass and treble
Disappointing phono preamp
post #286 of 373
Does the network connection on the 3007 allow you to stream movies and music over your network? Or is it for simply updating the receiver?

Thanks!
post #287 of 373
I currently have a tx-nr3007 hooked to Monitor Audio Silvers in 7.1, JL Audio Fathom F113, PS3 Slim for DVD and Blu Ray, Mitsubishi 1080p projector, and a 120" Screen. Love the SQ and the PQ seems very good on my 120" projector screen.

My question is this - does the 3007 really give me much advantage with my current setup over the 1007 Onkyo? I'm within a week of my 30-day return period and am considering pocketing the extra cash and exchanging for the 1007.

Thanks in advance for the input - so far this forum has helped me setup a great system.
post #288 of 373
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Originally Posted by petey800 View Post

I currently have a tx-nr3007 hooked to Monitor Audio Silvers in 7.1, JL Audio Fathom F113, PS3 Slim for DVD and Blu Ray, Mitsubishi 1080p projector, and a 120" Screen. Love the SQ and the PQ seems very good on my 120" projector screen.

My question is this - does the 3007 really give me much advantage with my current setup over the 1007 Onkyo? I'm within a week of my 30-day return period and am considering pocketing the extra cash and exchanging for the 1007.

Thanks in advance for the input - so far this forum has helped me setup a great system.

The video processing in the 3007 is the standard over the 1007.

And someone correct me if I'm wrong here, the video processing is only beneficial depending on the source you're using, your PS3 is already yielding the highest resolution with blu-ray, so you're not going make gold from gold with the 3007. Now if you're source is coming from dish or some other network, then the video processing from the 3007 can do it's job.
post #289 of 373
Have have a question regarding Onkyo/Integra receiver lines. The 3007 is the one I am leaning towards so I'll ask it here;

My speakers set-up is going to be exclusive B&Ws. One of the features they have is Bi-amp ability. I know from the web site that Onkyo 1007/3007/5007 can bi-amp the front (R/C/L) speakers. How exactly does that work? If I use this feature for my front three speakers won't I lose three channels designed for other uses? Wont that make these receivers go from a 9.2 channel to a 6.2 channel, or 5.2 channel in the 1007s case?

Thanks all.
post #290 of 373
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Originally Posted by Mark Leiter View Post

Have have a question regarding Onkyo/Integra receiver lines. The 3007 is the one I am leaning towards so I'll ask it here;

My speakers set-up is going to be exclusive B&Ws. One of the features they have is Bi-amp ability. I know from the web site that Onkyo 1007/3007/5007 can bi-amp the front (R/C/L) speakers. How exactly does that work? If I use this feature for my front three speakers won't I lose three channels designed for other uses? Wont that make these receivers go from a 9.2 channel to a 6.2 channel, or 5.2 channel in the 1007s case?

Thanks all.

The best thing I could suggest is going to the Onkyo website, click on the 3007 and download the manual and read about the bi-amping. Even though your speakers have the ability, this might not be something you're needing to do. You'll be robbing from Paul to pay Peter and the results might even be better if you didn't, however, you'll be the final judge.
post #291 of 373
Done.. mine actually froze a few times, until I unplugged the Onkyo and Tried 3 times it didn't Work. First time was stuck on Downloading 100% for two hours, second time wouldnt start downloading after rebooting worked normal downloaded and updated in 15 mins
post #292 of 373
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Done.. mine actually froze a few times, until I unplugged the Onkyo and Tried 3 times it didn't Work. First time was stuck on Downloading 100% for two hours, second time wouldnt start downloading after rebooting worked normal downloaded and updated in 15 mins

Wow!, you certainly had some problems with that firmware upgrade, I wonder if the USB method would have gone better. (?) I have a number of devices that can do firmware either by network connection or USB or CDROM, I always choose the latter 2 methods, network connections have been known to cause trouble in these cases, I am not sure why manufacturer's continue to make this method available.

It might be valuable to post your experiences in the 3007/5007 thread.
post #293 of 373
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Originally Posted by Mark Leiter View Post

Have have a question regarding Onkyo/Integra receiver lines. The 3007 is the one I am leaning towards so I'll ask it here;

My speakers set-up is going to be exclusive B&Ws. One of the features they have is Bi-amp ability. I know from the web site that Onkyo 1007/3007/5007 can bi-amp the front (R/C/L) speakers. How exactly does that work? If I use this feature for my front three speakers won't I lose three channels designed for other uses? Wont that make these receivers go from a 9.2 channel to a 6.2 channel, or 5.2 channel in the 1007s case?

Thanks all.

I tried Bi-wire, Bi-amp but can only say that i do not hear any differents.
Think its more someting that if you want to hear differents, its there......
All this stuff is "invented" to sell speakers and receivers.
You can Bi-wire one speaker and let the other be wired normal.
Now get your best audio friend to listen to the speakers (don't tell him you Bi-wired) and see if he hears someting has changed, i say he will not.
post #294 of 373
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Originally Posted by pgodden View Post

Done.. mine actually froze a few times, until I unplugged the Onkyo and Tried 3 times it didn't Work. First time was stuck on Downloading 100% for two hours, second time wouldnt start downloading after rebooting worked normal downloaded and updated in 15 mins

I did the update through NET and it was a 5 minute job.
After the download just pressed standby and turned it on and all was ok.
Now jump free WMA Internet radio
post #295 of 373
OK, I'm in. My new 3007 is on its way!

I've noticed this thread has WAY fewer posts than the 1007 or combined 3007/5007 threads. Probably because the 3K7 is the "middle daughter"-neither the least expensive nor the top of the line-of this series, it just doesn't get all the notice of the other two. Hope I made the right choice!
post #296 of 373
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Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce View Post

OK, I'm in. My new 3007 is on its way!

I've noticed this thread has WAY fewer posts than the 1007 or combined 3007/5007 threads. Probably because the 3K7 is the "middle daughter"-neither the least expensive nor the top of the line-of this series, it just doesn't get all the notice of the other two. Hope I made the right choice!

I am with ya on that! i have the 3007 and the pio elite sc 27 both which i have not hooked up but have had sincve feb!!

I wish the 3007 owners would post in here more often than the combined thread as well, it would break up the million or so pages that that thread consists of!

or if someone could go through and get all 3007 info from those pages and show it on here, it would be less heartache tryng to get info about the 3007 and having to read a bunch on both!

great purchase! i have heard that the 2 main issues at the moment are static noise comming from the speakers and or over heating hdmi boards! they produce the most heat!

there is a thread somewhere in the combined thread that a guy shows he hooked up some coolers on his chips!
post #297 of 373
So I just bought some new speakers for my 3007 , the Energy CF 70's they r bi-amp able 8 ohm nominal speakers. They also can handle 4ohms as well, I wanted to bi-amp them but as 3007 owners know, if u Bi amp u only have the option of 6 or 4 ohms or should I just bridge them at 8 ohms and call it a day. I'm just worried that if I bi-amp them at 4 ohms, it might damage the speakers, too much power, they handle up to 300 watts. And at 4 ohms the 3007 pushes 270 , now is that split in half to the highs and lows or no?
post #298 of 373
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Originally Posted by grneyedbandit80 View Post

So I just bought some new speakers for my 3007 , the Energy CF 70's they r bi-amp able 8 ohm nominal speakers. They also can handle 4ohms as well, I wanted to bi-amp them but as 3007 owners know, if u Bi amp u only have the option of 6 or 4 ohms or should I just bridge them at 8 ohms and call it a day. I'm just worried that if I bi-amp them at 4 ohms, it might damage the speakers, too much power, they handle up to 300 watts. And at 4 ohms the 3007 pushes 270 , now is that split in half to the highs and lows or no?

Good question....I just picked up the 3007 for a sweet deal under 1000$. And i was wondering about the same thing.
post #299 of 373
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Originally Posted by grneyedbandit80 View Post

So I just bought some new speakers for my 3007 , the Energy CF 70's they r bi-amp able 8 ohm nominal speakers. They also can handle 4ohms as well, I wanted to bi-amp them but as 3007 owners know, if u Bi amp u only have the option of 6 or 4 ohms or should I just bridge them at 8 ohms and call it a day. I'm just worried that if I bi-amp them at 4 ohms, it might damage the speakers, too much power, they handle up to 300 watts. And at 4 ohms the 3007 pushes 270 , now is that split in half to the highs and lows or no?


270 Watt is theoratical and peak power so no problem for 300 Watt peak power speakers.
Power will not be split through Bi-amp as you use for high and low a seperate speaker output (amp).

You will not "hear" any differents in Bi-wire, Bi-amp or normal connection.....
Bi-amp is just more power but i think you will not need it
post #300 of 373
Just be aware that the Sound & Vision test of the 5007 indicates that it is limited to 68 watts per channel when in 4 ohm mode. The 3007 likely also has this restriction. I think it's why CBdicX has found his 3K7 to run cooler when set to 4 ohms.
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