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Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS3 / TZ7

post #1 of 9
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I bought one of these for the missus 2 weeks ago and it seems to work fine.

12x zoom works when recording video
good stereo sound
OIS
29Mb/s 720P AVCHD lite (first pocket cam with AVCHD)
very sharp over the entire zoom range - no obvious chromatic abberation
and fits in your pocket.
histogram, face recog., 10MP stills, all the fruit, etc

I walked around the mall filming last week, and the cops didn't even know !

The image quality is absolutely astounding for a pocket happy-snap camera.

Bottom line - there is no need to buy a separate camcorder any more.

a good clips made by people more talented than me;

http://vimeo.com/5373833
post #2 of 9
While I think the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS3 is a very good camera it's definitely not for everybody. For people who like the camera to do everything for them this is awesome. For people who like to adjust controls this camera is probably the worst you can buy, it basically has only 1 manual control and that's for white balance. It also lacks a viewfinder (sucks on sunny days when it's hard to see the lcd screen).
One other slight problem is that the image quality is grainy at all ISO settings and ranks lower than several competitors camera's in it's class.

So, while it's a great little camera is has alot of shortcomings...but it really depends what you're looking for. It's perfect for people who don't know much about camera's or just don't care to take the time to adjust things because it does it all for you...albeit at a cost in image quality.

Personally I'd spend the few extra dollars and go for the FZ35/38, it has full manual controls but also will do it all for you if you don't have the time, not to mention a longer zoom, faster burst rates, a viewfinder and more.
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by Danielson99 View Post

One other slight problem is that the image quality is grainy at all ISO settings and ranks lower than several competitors camera's in it's class.

Which several cameras and which reviews are giving that claim?
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

Which several cameras and which reviews are giving that claim?

This REVIEW
This REVIEW
This REVIEW

There are many others but it's not the point really. With many professional reviewers and a good percentage of user reviews claiming the same thing I'm surely not one to disagree although I do like to see things for myself. At the times many reviews were made there weren't even many competitors with offerings to market so some results are overstated slightly because there was little to judge it against.

Like I said, it's a great camera for people who just want to push 1 button and have the camera do all the work. Having literally everything being done automatically is never going to render the best results in all situations. This much I know from experience. Perhaps the SX200 and other camera's have slightly better image quality when it comes to noise and graininess but I would gladly trade the small amount of size gain and upgrade into the FZ35/38 as I mentioned previously....you get so much more camera for not much more money. Each to their own though...this camera is perfect for some folks and that's all that matters.
post #5 of 9
I have a FZ35 and it is an incredible camera. Still pics are great. I know people will say that you can get better pics with dslr, but the auto mode on this cam is just darn near perfect and the ois is best I have ever seen.
I use HDV (Sony HC3 and Canon HV40) for video, but I tried the avchd lite on the FZ35. For the most part, it looks pretty good, but I did see some macroblocking on a dark wall in a less than well lit scene, along with a few other minor artifacts. It is obviously not as good as HDV, but still looks ok, especially on a good day. The pluses of it over my HDV cams are that wonderful 18x zoom and and super steady OIS. The other thing that makes me prefer my HDV cams is form factor- holding a camera steady for 10 minutes is muh harder than holding a camcorder. This could probably be improved with an L handle, which I use anyhow on my other cams. Could the FZ35 be used for all video tasks? Is it good enough to be the one and all cam? If you do only occasional short shots, I think so. In the past, we had video cams that offered great video/mediocre stills. The FZ35 offers good video and great stills. Sounds like a good compromise to me. The next time I travel, it is nice to know that should anything happen to my Canon HDV cam, the FZ35 can fill in for video chores. One more thing- the FZ35 has threaded barrell so you can put extra lenses and filters on it. I have never seen a palm sized camera with that ablitiy; though sometimes you can buy bulky adapters (like I did for my sony DP200). I can't imagine doing one of my carribbean cruises without a polarizer on the cam!
post #6 of 9
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Danielson99 - I think you missed the point here.

The DMC-ZS3 (also known as the DMC-TZ7) is a pocket camera:



dimesions:
103.3mm x 59.6mm x 32.8mm
206grams / 229grams with battery

and the DMC-FZ35/FZ38 is not a pocket camera.

dimensions:
118mm x 76mm x 89mm
367gramms (no batt)



I have taken the ZS3/TZ7 out to 2 birthday dinners @ restaurants in the last 2 weeks, and the camera fit in my jacket pocket or missuses handbag. Very unobtrusive size. The shots I took last week were the ones in demand at dinner last night.

Yes, the ZS3 / TZ7 is not certainly perfect, but the video is astoundingly good for something you can just pull out of your pocket and shoot.

Annnd, I fully expect the codec and low light performance will only get better for these pocket cams. I also intend to buy a water housing to take it jetskiing, and will probably rig up a handlebar mount. The FZ35/FZ38 looks way to big for this purpose.

I may buy a CANON 7D soon for top-notch video performance. The ZS3 / TZ7 is intended to be a pocket cam for my missus.

I personally do not see the point of intermediate cameras such as the DMC-FZ35/FZ38 - to big for the pocket, and not in the video quality league of cameras like the 7D.
post #7 of 9
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I personally do not see the point of intermediate cameras such as the DMC-FZ35/FZ38 - to big for the pocket, and not in the video quality league of cameras like the 7D.

The FZ35 isn't that big to start with. Compared to the smaller pocket cam, will give much better stills. That 18x zoom is pretty darn good, came in handy on my Alaskan cruise.Like I said before, you can put lenses and filters on it too. You can't do that with the TZ7, but with a camera like that, the owner of it probably thinks of filters as things that make tap water taste better. If anything, I don't see the point of a pocket sized camera, as I can always take a crappy picture with my cell phone. Cameras like the FZ35 are also easier to hold and use than the cutesy pocket cameras that are best left in a chick's purse. Super zooms are cheaper and lighter than DSLR cameras. When I travel, I have a super zoom and a HDV cam and use both.
Oh yeah, I had some pants with large pockets and the FZ28 (same size as FZ35) fit in them. That pic you have of the FZ35 has the flash open, which makes it look bigger.
post #8 of 9
A video shot with the TZ7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSdqK_ffdmQ Quite impressive for the size.

post #9 of 9
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I have a Canon EOSM now and it kicks the Panny Tz7 out of the park in video quality and low light performance and stills quality.

The EOSM is a bout the same size as the Tz7, but has the image quality of the CANON 7D, 60D etc.

I don't use the Tz7 anymore.
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