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post #2551 of 8492
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Originally Posted by seigneur_rayden View Post

I don't see any artifacts. In contrary, I see better details in the picture. Details in actors' faces are unbeilivable.

Not only I say you do at that level, every single reviewer to date also mentions you do. Maybe take a closer look and put some calibration test discs up like HQV or Spears & Munsil, then you will see the artifacts on +7
post #2552 of 8492
Just ordered my AE 4000 yesterday and it is on track to be delivered tomorrow. I have been using the Sanyo Z4 for the past 3 years and after blowing through 3 bulbs it was time for an upgrade (its my main tv so it gets a TON of use). My question is for all you Xbox 360 and PS3 gamers out there. Since the AE 4000 is native 1080p should I output my Xbox 360 and Playstation to that resolution as well or keep them at 720p? I ask because 99.9% of games are made in 720p, so I didn't know if I would degrade the picture at all by upscaling the image to 1080p. Thanks in advance.
post #2553 of 8492
haven't noticed any degrading with an xbox360 at 1080p
post #2554 of 8492
I finally got around to watching my first basketball game the other day, while the picture was "good" the players faces were a bit less clear than I'd hoped.

I fiddled with Brightness and contrast and moved from Cinema 1 to Color 1 to Normal, never really being able to see clearly who was who from the standard "half court" view the cameras primarily use.

It was a "Big 10 Network" game in HD...

Obviously the darker skin colors were tougher to distinguish....I have about 7 people coming over tonite for the MSU/Texas game, and I'd really like to get this right. I'm hoping ESPNHD sends a better picture...any hints?
post #2555 of 8492
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Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post

I have a 50 foot Gefen HDMI cable from my HD satellite box through an hdmi switch upstairs to my Onkyo 875 receiver in the basement and then another 50 foot Gefen cable from the receiver to my Ae4000. I only have one Gefen powered booster on the end of the second cable to which I have another 2 meter cable running to the Ae4000.

That is over 100 feet of cable with no sparkles, dropouts or other video anomalies, but I did have to experiment. Before, when I had an Onkyo 805 and an older HD Satellite box, I also had to run a booster at the satellite end. When I changed the Satellite box and the receiver, I only needed the booster on the backend. Without the booster, there is no picture at all from any source

Does the satellite box use HDCP on the signal? My understanding is that this is often what causes the problem. Trying to push a 1080p HDCP (aka BluRay) protected signal over the same cable might not work.
post #2556 of 8492
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Originally Posted by dabagboy View Post

I finally got around to watching my first basketball game the other day, while the picture was "good" the players faces were a bit less clear than I'd hoped.

I fiddled with Brightness and contrast and moved from Cinema 1 to Color 1 to Normal, never really being able to see clearly who was who from the standard "half court" view the cameras primarily use.

It was a "Big 10 Network" game in HD...

Obviously the darker skin colors were tougher to distinguish....I have about 7 people coming over tonite for the MSU/Texas game, and I'd really like to get this right. I'm hoping ESPNHD sends a better picture...any hints?

I think ESPN just has a junk signal compared to other channels. I live in Cleveland so I watch every single Cavs game. The Cavs play a lot on ESPN these days and usually when they are on ESPN they are also on the local Fox Sports HD feed. The Fox Sports HD feed completely blows ESPN's out of the water. Almost a night and day difference.
post #2557 of 8492
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Originally Posted by wizman2378 View Post

I think ESPN just has a junk signal compared to other channels. I live in Cleveland so I watch every single Cavs game. The Cavs play a lot on ESPN these days and usually when they are on ESPN they are also on the local Fox Sports HD feed. The Fox Sports HD feed completely blows ESPN's out of the water. Almost a night and day difference.

We have uVerse (AT&T) and Big Ten Network is worse, I've heard that a lot of it has to do with the carrier allocating varying bandwidth to various channels and hoping we don't notice on a little 42" HDTVs.....but blow that thing up to a Home Theater and spend the $$ we spent and it can be beyond frustrating.
post #2558 of 8492
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Not only I say you do at that level, every single reviewer to date also mentions you do. Maybe take a closer look and put some calibration test discs up like HQV or Spears & Munsil, then you will see the artifacts on +7

that is what you and them are seeing not what I am seeing.
post #2559 of 8492
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Originally Posted by seigneur_rayden View Post

I don't see any artifacts. In contrary, I see better details in the picture. Details in actors' faces are unbeilivable.

WOW WOW WOW.

So far, I am very happy with this PJ (my 1st by the way).

The Lens Memory Function is freaking AWESOME.

How are the black levels in this projector. I am deciding with this one and the Epson 8500UB. I'm confused. Can anyone convince me why I should buy the panny over Epson other then the name brand?
post #2560 of 8492
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Originally Posted by neverfaithful View Post

How are the black levels in this projector. I am deciding with this one and the Epson 8500UB. I'm confused. Can anyone convince me why I should buy the panny over Epson other then the name brand?

Really the only reason that I want this projector is because of the lens memory. If not for that I would be looking at spending an extra $1000 or so for something better. I can't believe that no one elso came out with a lense memory feature this year.
post #2561 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Really the only reason that I want this projector is because of the lens memory.

Early on I asked and about half of the owners were seeing a zoom/focus shift when using it. I know I'd end up checking the focus every time... which sort of defeats its purpose.
post #2562 of 8492
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Originally Posted by PhilT3 View Post

What aspect are you guys using with a 2.35 screen?

I WAS using H-Fit but then realized (while watching new Star Trek) that it was cutting off the sides quite drastically. So I switched it to 16.9 and just zoomed it out. Seems much better now.

How did you guys go about setting up your 4000 with your 2.35 screen?

There are so many settings I don't know where to begin! Seems like there should be a "Projector Set-Up Disc" of some sort. ???

So far I am loving the 4k with my Elite 125" screen. My previous was a 50" Samsung DLP. So I really made a big jump and we are LOVING it.

Now if I can just get it tweaked and set-up so I don't have to mess with it every time we go to watch a movie, my fiance will be soooo much happier with me.

Any ideas, guidance, etc... is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Wow. I love the feedback the 4000 owners have. I have been looking to get the 8500UB and have been hanging out in there and all I hear is negative feedback from a majority of the users. It is good to hear positive. I might have to pull the trigger on this panny instead.

How is the detail, can you see a person pores in their skin on close ups?

Does the smooth creation thing make the picture less detailed?

Any soap opera effects with FI?
post #2563 of 8492
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Originally Posted by wizman2378 View Post

Just ordered my AE 4000 yesterday and it is on track to be delivered tomorrow. I have been using the Sanyo Z4 for the past 3 years and after blowing through 3 bulbs it was time for an upgrade (its my main tv so it gets a TON of use). My question is for all you Xbox 360 and PS3 gamers out there. Since the AE 4000 is native 1080p should I output my Xbox 360 and Playstation to that resolution as well or keep them at 720p? I ask because 99.9% of games are made in 720p, so I didn't know if I would degrade the picture at all by upscaling the image to 1080p. Thanks in advance.

wizman2378,

I too have Z4 for the past 3 years and am seriously consider upgrading to AE4000. I'd love to hear your take on the improvements AE4000 have over Z4 after you receive your unit, especially in the area of sharpness, brightness, and black level. Thanks.
post #2564 of 8492
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Originally Posted by mit_hd View Post

wizman2378,

I too have Z4 for the past 3 years and am seriously consider upgrading to AE4000. I'd love to hear your take on the improvements AE4000 have over Z4 after you receive your unit, especially in the area of sharpness, brightness, and black level. Thanks.

I've owned a Z4 and Z5, and althought both were great performers for me in my HTR...the 4K beats them hands down in all three areas you mentioned. The color is better and the additional functions are totally out of reach of the Z4 and Z5.
post #2565 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Really the only reason that I want this projector is because of the lens memory. If not for that I would be looking at spending an extra $1000 or so for something better. I can't believe that no one elso came out with a lense memory feature this year.

Sounds good but how are the black levels?
post #2566 of 8492
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

What's the model cable? We know BlueJeans but which one?

I got a 70' foot run to work with the CElabs HDMI over cat5.

http://www.buy.com/prod/ce-labs-hdmi...207662020.html
post #2567 of 8492
someone here has the setup PT AE-4000 and LG BD390 bluray player?
post #2568 of 8492
To anyone that has added an anamorphic lens to their PT-AE4000 installation:

Is whatever gain you're seeing really worth the high $ price? Would you do it again? Is switching the lens between 16:9 and 2:35 sources a hassle?

Thank you.
post #2569 of 8492
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Originally Posted by rmerlano View Post

someone here has the setup PT AE-4000 and LG BD390 bluray player?

Yes I have.
post #2570 of 8492
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

Sanjil,Im no expert but do you have your projector mounted where the picture hits the middle of the screen?This is a problem I had & it can be a pain to line it up almost perfect.Someone here may have a way they lined theres up,I did mine by trial-error.

I had a old Sharp projector in that ceiling mount area before with no issues and that projector was pretty easy to adjust. Some reason this one is not square even after adjusting I'm using a white wall where I'm displaying the image with plenty of room to move image left to right but still no success...

Are there any trick to resolve the issue. I just want to make sure I'm not doing somethig wrong.
post #2571 of 8492
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Originally Posted by blackbelt View Post

Yes I have.

Great blackbelt!
Could you post your settings in both devices?

Thank you for your help!
post #2572 of 8492
I would be more than happy to post the setings but be forwarned its a tweek in progress. Some things I like one way some the other. I like the memory settings on this projector. I have one setting for hd movies and one for standard tv. I have company comming and we are about to watch district 9. I will post after that. Is that ok?
post #2573 of 8492
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Originally Posted by seigneur_rayden View Post

One word to summarize this PJ: WOW

I'm a happy camper.

I've tried Detail Clarity +7 and since then, I am addicted to it.

Is there anyone else using detail clarity at the max +7?

I only played with the settings a bit, but the artifacts on gradient type surfaces were most apparent to me for artifacts.

What was once a smooth transition from one color to another would turn into a blocky mess as the detail clarity processing tried to come up with some lines / divisions to emphasize and enhance when there were not supposed to be any.

If you look at only the edges of things and areas where there really could be more detail to benefit the picture, you'll probably have a very high opinion of the upper settings on this feature.

If you look at areas where there really isn't any benefit to more sharpness (smooth skin tones, background colors, etc.), you'll probably notice the negative aspects of it.
post #2574 of 8492
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Originally Posted by blackbelt View Post

I would be more than happy to post the setings but be forwarned its a tweek in progress. Some things I like one way some the other. I like the memory settings on this projector. I have one setting for hd movies and one for standard tv. I have company comming and we are about to watch district 9. I will post after that. Is that ok?

Of course!
When you have some free time it´s good for me.
I´ll be waiting for your information.
Thank you.
post #2575 of 8492
Ok I had a quick second to look see. Dvd player is tv aspect 16:9, res is 1080p,1080 display mode is 24hz, hdmi color is rgb. Audio is hdmi primary pass, spdif primary pass,sample freq is 192. If there is something else let me know. Also if someone has a better setting let me know also I will try it out. Projector settings picture is normal, contrast is +28 bright is +2 color is +1 tint is 0 sharpness +5 color temp +3 Iris on.Detail clarity is +5, frame creation is mode 1. Lamp power is normal. All other values are default. Now remember these are no magic settings they are just what work for me for now. And they are subject to change at any given minute. If you have or any one else has some setting that you think are better let me know I will try them out. But all eyes are different these may not work for you. Let me know if they work ,thing is there are alot of different settings to use.
post #2576 of 8492
Ok movie time gotta go..
post #2577 of 8492
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Originally Posted by blackbelt View Post

Ok I had a quick second to look see. Dvd player is tv aspect 16:9, res is 1080p,1080 display mode is 24hz, hdmi color is rgb. Audio is hdmi primary pass, spdif primary pass,sample freq is 192. If there is something else let me know. Also if someone has a better setting let me know also I will try it out. Projector settings picture is normal, contrast is +28 bright is +2 color is +1 tint is 0 sharpness +5 color temp +3 Iris on.Detail clarity is +5, frame creation is mode 1. Lamp power is normal. All other values are default. Now remember these are no magic settings they are just what work for me for now. And they are subject to change at any given minute. If you have or any one else has some setting that you think are better let me know I will try them out. But all eyes are different these may not work for you. Let me know if they work ,thing is there are alot of different settings to use.

The size of your image? Do you have total control of light?
post #2578 of 8492
This is my first projector, ran it today on a temporary screen (bedsheet) as the theater room a couple weeks from completion. Picture looks great on movies, but text (font 72 used for testing) viewed through my laptop via HDMI has a purple (though picture shows blue) color on the left and has a green color on the right. From normal viewing distance it looks fine but up close it looks off. Also text on this forum appears to be purple. Any thoughts?
LL
post #2579 of 8492
I installed my 4000 tonight from the ceiling about 12" from the top of the lens. I have a soffit on the screen wall 9" from the ceiling. The projector is dead center (give or take 1/16) and level. After selecting the ceiling/front setting in the installation menu under options the image is still being projected on the soffit and ceiling. I had to use significant lens shift to move the image down. I put a laser on top of the projector and it hits the wall ~2 inches under the soffit, right where I expect it. What am I doing wrong?

Regarding lens shift. Is the "click" center?

EDIT: I reread through the manual and it appears it is normal to require lens shift when the projector is not dead center of the screen. This is my first projector and was apparently under some false assumptions about positioning.

Thanks in advance,
-Chad
post #2580 of 8492
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Originally Posted by mit_hd View Post

wizman2378,

I too have Z4 for the past 3 years and am seriously consider upgrading to AE4000. I'd love to hear your take on the improvements AE4000 have over Z4 after you receive your unit, especially in the area of sharpness, brightness, and black level. Thanks.

Just replaced my aging Z4 with the AE4000. Was close to getting the Epson but found a deal to good to pass up and pulled the trigger. This projector is definitely in a different clase then the Z4. Brightness is the first thing I noticed was drastically improved. Even when the Z4 was on a new bulb I could never watch with my main lights on but the Panny has no trouble. The throw distance is 22 feet onto a 133" Da-Light HP screen. With no ambient light I have the bulb on "ECO" mode and the picture is very bright. I'm not sure if I would repurchase the HP screen if I was buying new right now. Black levels are also much better especially the dark detail and contrast in low light scenes. I wouldn't say sharpness is as big an improvement and the picture is a little different then what I'm used to. I think the colors are a bit over saturated right now but I only have about 5 hours on the projector and haven't really played around with any calibrating yet.
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