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post #4531 of 8492
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

Nice another Colorado theater!!!

Think long and hard about that scope aspect screen. It's not for everybody.

How many seats are you thinking of going with? Rows, seats in each row, how far is thew seating back from the screen.

Yup, been living in colorado for about 3 years now. Great place. It's not exactly a dedicated theater. It's more like a living room + game room that happens to have a projector and a really big screen in it. Thus, it's more of a typical living room seating arrangement with a sofa facing the screen and a loveseat along the side wall... like a sectional couch layout. My wife doesn't want a more typical home theater seating arrangement with 2 row seating and whatnot (plus I don't think it would work very well in my basement anyway).

So... about 12' - 13' from the screen to the sofa. Loveseat will be closer but I'm not concerned about that or the fact that it's off to the side. After all, it's just my wife and I. There will be bar seating behind the sofa... about 16' from the screen but again, I'm not concerned about that being perfect although it would be nice if that fit into the equation nicely. After all, I imagine we'll be eating dinner there most nights and watching tv/movies.
post #4532 of 8492
Has anybody heard whether or not Panasonic is planning a firmware upgrade to make the 4000u 3d compatible?
post #4533 of 8492
In order to be 3D compatible the LCD panels would have to refresh at at least 120Hz. Since the projector uses frame interpolation and not a true 120 Hz refresh to give the picture smoother motion, my guess is they are not capable of doing that. Therefore I don't see it happening.
post #4534 of 8492
All I can say is....I'm speechless! Just watched Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds Radio City Hall concert and am blown away by the PQ that the PTAE4k outputs! I honestly felt like I was there in the front row and with my "virtual" Surround Sound 5.1 (using a Philips Soundbar - I can't even imagine the experience if I invested in a true 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound system - possibly the next investment if the wife approves ), was absolutely blown away by the "theatre-like" experience! And to think, I was on the verge of purchasing the Pioneer KRP600M (60in. Kuro plasma) for php300,000 (equiv to approx $6,500 USD!) but instead happened upon an audio visual store that had the PTAE4k in a demo room and was immediately relieved that I didn't make the Kuro purchase since I got the PTAE4k & a 100" motorized, white matte screen, 0.8 gain for a total price of php158,000 (equiv to approx $3,450 USD!) which is a price differential of $3,050 USD! The viewing experience is just completely different with the PTAE4k compared to a large plasma or LCD. There is no comparison. The only issue that I foresee is the lamp life or the dreaded dust blob that I have read about in the forum. So a bit of "babying" must be done with the unit. But in my opinion, it is well worth it. Really stoked to start our simple theatre construction (can't seem to find a reasonable price from contractor estimates) and I still haven't decided to either ceiling or floor mount the unit simply because we are in a condo so there may be wiring issues, etc. But fellas, this is an amazing 1080p 3LCD projector. So far, it has surpassed all my expectations!

Cheers fellas!
post #4535 of 8492
Hi, phipsi1: I suppose this is a Blu-ray you are playing? So how did you resolve the problem with playback from PH A100? Thanks.
post #4536 of 8492
Here's a tip when you use the focus.

I read where people complain about the focus over shooting when trying to dial it in as clear as possible.

It was a pain for me also but I figured it out. When holding the focus button
you hear the lens motor hum and people assume it's not focusing unless they hear the motor hum..not so.

Don't hold the focus button..just tap it and release and keep tapping and releasing one tap at a time it until it's clear. You won't hear the lens motor at all but it is moving.

Make it real blurry then just stand right up close ( Test Pattern On ) to your screen with the remote in hand and tap the focus button one tap at a time and you will see it slowly come into focus .

It will be spot on clear and it only takes about 10 taps
post #4537 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Blue Rain View Post

Here's a tip when you use the focus.

I read where people complain about the focus over shooting when trying to dial it in as clear as possible.

It was a pain for me also but I figured it out. When holding the focus button
you hear the lens motor hum and people assume it's not focusing unless they hear the motor hum..not so.

Don't hold the focus button..just tap it and release and keep tapping and releasing one tap at a time it until it's clear. You won't hear the lens motor at all but it is moving.

Make it real blurry then just stand right up close ( Test Pattern On ) to your screen with the remote in hand and tap the focus button one tap at a time and you will see it slowly come into focus .

It will be spot on clear and it only takes about 10 taps

I do the same thing except I do from my seat. What I don't like about the focus is that it takes a good 30 minutes or more from startup for the picture to come into perfect focus. For the first 30 minutes the image is blurry.
post #4538 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

I do the same thing except I do from my seat. What I don't like about the focus is that it takes a good 30 minutes or more from startup for the picture to come into perfect focus. For the first 30 minutes the image is blurry.

Is is normal for most PJ's to take that long ?

I only ask because this is my first PJ.

Thanks
post #4539 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Blue Rain View Post

Here's a tip when you use the focus.

I read where people complain about the focus over shooting when trying to dial it in as clear as possible.

It was a pain for me also but I figured it out. When holding the focus button
you hear the lens motor hum and people assume it's not focusing unless they hear the motor hum..not so.

Don't hold the focus button..just tap it and release and keep tapping and releasing one tap at a time it until it's clear. You won't hear the lens motor at all but it is moving.

Make it real blurry then just stand right up close ( Test Pattern On ) to your screen with the remote in hand and tap the focus button one tap at a time and you will see it slowly come into focus .

It will be spot on clear and it only takes about 10 taps

10 taps, interesting coincidence...here is what the obsessive compulsive side of me discovered when trying to find the "center" point of focus. From the focused center point, tap to where one first gets out of focus in either direction. From either point just immediately out of focus, it is five taps to the center point...or 10 taps from one out of focus point to the other.

Please note I am not talking about a point where one taps the focus button and is way out of focus and then five taps brings it into perfect focus. Again, the first tap on the focus button in either direction that brings the projector out of focus and from that point it is five taps back to center focus.


Out of focus: tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap: Center point in focus: tap, tap, tap, tap, tap: Out of focus.

How are you guys liking the projector so far?


I am loving it and already have 80 hours on it in 12 days. I watch a lot of hockey and although I said I was only going to use it for movies...oh well. I am enjoying it. Plus I have been using it for some PS3 gaming. Gran Turismo Prologue is such a realistic driving game and must be seen on the A4000 and HP screen.
post #4540 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Blue Rain View Post

Is is normal for most PJ's to take that long ?

I only ask because this is my first PJ.

Thanks

I don't think so. I did check my previous PJ (Sharp Z3000) last night, which is still mounted, and it takes only a few minutes to get into perfect focus.
post #4541 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

... 80 hours on it in 12 days....



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... Gran Turismo Prologue is such a realistic driving game and must be seen on the A4000 and HP screen...

I don't play video game any more, but I can only imagine how realistic it must be. Almost 20 years, I used my first pay to buy a Nintendo, and the racing game was one of my favorites. Must be really great an experience to you to burn 80 hours in 12 days.
post #4542 of 8492
Newbie to projectors and thinking about getting the PT-AE4000

I'm looking at DA-Lite screens and have seen a lot of good discussion on the High Power screen.

If I'm going with Da-Lite 106" what is your suggestion paired with PT-AE4000?

The projector will be ceiling mounted. Some ambient light but can be controlled.
post #4543 of 8492
I have a Hi-power paired with the 4k like it just fine. By ceiling mounting your PJ you will not really be taking advantage of the screens gain capabilities but it has some other qualities that you will appreciate. One being that it will work well with ambient light, especially the off axis sources, and the other being that if you are going with a pull down screen the inevitable waves will be much less noticeable.
post #4544 of 8492
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Originally Posted by KO Abear View Post

I have a Hi-power paired with the 4k like it just fine. By ceiling mounting your PJ you will not really be taking advantage of the screens gain capabilities but it has some other qualities that you will appreciate. One being that it will work well with ambient light, especially the off axis sources, and the other being that if you are going with a pull down screen the inevitable waves will be much less noticeable.

I'm doing a perm wall mount so no wave probs.

Are there other Da Lite surfaces better for the ceiling mount and conditions I mentioned above?
post #4545 of 8492
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Originally Posted by jjmbxkb View Post

Hi, phipsi1: I suppose this is a Blu-ray you are playing? So how did you resolve the problem with playback from PH A100? Thanks.

@jjmbxkb:

After reading through the manual, I found that the projector doesn't support 1080p25Hz & 1080p30Hz....But fortunately it supports 1080p60Hz, 1080p59.95Hz, 1080p24Hz, & 1080p23.xxHz. A portion of my 720p boxing & tennis collection when viewed on my 1080p Philips LCD needed to viewed in 1080p25Hz, but fortunately it can be viewed on 1080p50Hz using the PTAE4k.

Still having a great viewing experience with the unit and have logged 12 viewing hours the past four days. Really look forward to getting the projector screen installed and seeing the PQ on a screen instead of my wall.
post #4546 of 8492
Anyone bought this projector in Canada? I live in the east and can't find any reputable Panasonic dealers.
post #4547 of 8492
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Originally Posted by the-pred View Post

Anyone bought this projector in Canada? I live in the east and can't find any reputable Panasonic dealers.

Buy from an American mail order company (see the forum sponsors) and have it shipped to a UPS store just on the other side of the border. Drive over and bring it in yourself. You'll save a fortune.

Do some searching in this forum and you'll find lots of good advice on this.

Mike
post #4548 of 8492
Last night we watched MI-3 in HD DVD and the Dalite HP and Sharp Z3000 combo was just fantastic. I was complaining about the not so good black level with the AE4000/HP screen combo but the black level on the Sharp was much better than I remember it on the AE4000. So I fired up my AE4000 and started playing the same movie checking out dark scenes. All, I mean all, dark scenes on this disc are very dark wine red!! Like a very dark burgundy! So I FF to the credit roll and sure enough the background was not black but very very dark red! Wine red tint all over the screen. Played the same credit roll with the Sharp and it is black. I don't know what of make of this. I didn't check other discs as it was very late so I left it at that. What could be wrong here ? I can't wait to check out the same scene with the Sharp Z12000 when I receive it this week. I am also planning to grab MI-3 in Blu-ray and play it back with my Pio FD51 player just to rule out the HD DVD disc and the HD DVD player as the culprits. I doubt it is the disc as the problem is not present on the Sharp.
post #4549 of 8492
Would love some expert advice. This one has stumped me (I'll probably cross-post this in both the FiOS and PT-AE4000u forums).

Been with FiOS for over a year now and have been quite happy with the service (just re-upped for another year). My home had a small office attached to the garage (that had coax) and we just expanded that office to become a small home theater (using the PT-AE4000u). I had the Home Media DVR in the family room hooked up to a Pioneer Plasma and added a second HD DVR when the theater was finished. Both are model 6416.


As I was watching Lost (local ABC HD affiliate) each week in the new room, I began to notice that the picture would skip every few minutes...like it lost a few frames. Strange thing is that it happened every week but on other channels (e.g. Fox and NBC) I was seeing no such problem. Over the next few weeks I tried the following trouble-shooting:


- Switched the DVR to connect via component instead of HDMI...skips in the exact same parts (rules out HDMI issues)

- Recorded the same show on the DVR in the family room and brought it into the projector...skips in the exact same parts (rules out the wiring to the new room since the family room box is recording the same way)

- When viewing the same show on the Plasma, the issue is not as noticeable...presumably because I believe the Pioneer Plasma handles signal interference much better than the projector (plus, there is a difference watching it on a 43 inch screen vs a 100 inch screen)


I started flipping around channels and definitely saw the same problem on a few other channels as well (but not all). Seems to be a bit random which channels have it and which don't. The other issue I saw (clearly on both the projector and plasma) was the bottom crawler on ESPNews. The letters switch between totally clear and a bit scrambled and jumpy.


I finally called FiOS out on Friday and they confirmed my worst nightmare...everything looked fine. They could see the problems on my DVR recordings but the signal strength was fantastic and they could perceive no issues. Before they left they swapped out all my splitters and reset my exterior box. They gave me their card and indicated the next step would be to swap out the boxes. Sure enough, recorded a show on ABC last night...still skipped. Crawler on ESPNews still getting a bit scrambled.


So, I'm probably going to call them back today to swap out the boxes (from the 6-series to the 7-series) but I'm not convinced it's going to work. Here are my thoughts:


- Because the problem is so much more noticeable on the projector than the plasma, I start to think the problem is with the projector...BUT...

- It wouldn't seem to be the projector since it is the same problem on Component and HDMI plus why would the projector only skip on certain channels (at the exact same points on both boxes), plus the ESPNews crawler problem is obviously there on both.

- Swapping out the boxes seems like a long shot. What are the chances going from 6-series to 7-series would magically solve my problems.

- After considering all that, it feels like there must be an upstream problem...but I seemingly have no way to prove that!


Sorry for the length...ideas?
post #4550 of 8492
Don't know anything about it but reading on the Samsung B750 thread people are complaing about the same thing ABC over the air HD and lost. They say it is something about how ABC is sending the signal. Don't know if it helps you, just thought it sounded like the some thing.
post #4551 of 8492
Wizzack,

Any news yet on your warranty repair?

Nick
post #4552 of 8492
Quote:
Originally Posted by IQ22 View Post

Would love some expert advice. This one has stumped me (I'll probably cross-post this in both the FiOS and PT-AE4000u forums).

Been with FiOS for over a year now and have been quite happy with the service (just re-upped for another year). My home had a small office attached to the garage (that had coax) and we just expanded that office to become a small home theater (using the PT-AE4000u). I had the Home Media DVR in the family room hooked up to a Pioneer Plasma and added a second HD DVR when the theater was finished. Both are model 6416.


As I was watching Lost (local ABC HD affiliate) each week in the new room, I began to notice that the picture would skip every few minutes...like it lost a few frames. Strange thing is that it happened every week but on other channels (e.g. Fox and NBC) I was seeing no such problem. Over the next few weeks I tried the following trouble-shooting:


- Switched the DVR to connect via component instead of HDMI...skips in the exact same parts (rules out HDMI issues)

- Recorded the same show on the DVR in the family room and brought it into the projector...skips in the exact same parts (rules out the wiring to the new room since the family room box is recording the same way)

- When viewing the same show on the Plasma, the issue is not as noticeable...presumably because I believe the Pioneer Plasma handles signal interference much better than the projector (plus, there is a difference watching it on a 43 inch screen vs a 100 inch screen)


I started flipping around channels and definitely saw the same problem on a few other channels as well (but not all). Seems to be a bit random which channels have it and which don't. The other issue I saw (clearly on both the projector and plasma) was the bottom crawler on ESPNews. The letters switch between totally clear and a bit scrambled and jumpy.


I finally called FiOS out on Friday and they confirmed my worst nightmare...everything looked fine. They could see the problems on my DVR recordings but the signal strength was fantastic and they could perceive no issues. Before they left they swapped out all my splitters and reset my exterior box. They gave me their card and indicated the next step would be to swap out the boxes. Sure enough, recorded a show on ABC last night...still skipped. Crawler on ESPNews still getting a bit scrambled.


So, I'm probably going to call them back today to swap out the boxes (from the 6-series to the 7-series) but I'm not convinced it's going to work. Here are my thoughts:


- Because the problem is so much more noticeable on the projector than the plasma, I start to think the problem is with the projector...BUT...

- It wouldn't seem to be the projector since it is the same problem on Component and HDMI plus why would the projector only skip on certain channels (at the exact same points on both boxes), plus the ESPNews crawler problem is obviously there on both.

- Swapping out the boxes seems like a long shot. What are the chances going from 6-series to 7-series would magically solve my problems.

- After considering all that, it feels like there must be an upstream problem...but I seemingly have no way to prove that!


Sorry for the length...ideas?

I saw this when I first got the projector and watched The Fast and The Furious opening credits. After some looking around, I found that Frame Creation was set to +1 (default out of the box). I cut it off and everything was buttery smooth.

-J
post #4553 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

Last night we watched MI-3 in HD DVD and the Dalite HP and Sharp Z3000 combo was just fantastic. I was complaining about the not so good black level with the AE4000/HP screen combo but the black level on the Sharp was much better than I remember it on the AE4000. So I fired up my AE4000 and started playing the same movie checking out dark scenes. All, I mean all, dark scenes on this disc are very dark wine red!! Like a very dark burgundy! So I FF to the credit roll and sure enough the background was not black but very very dark red! Wine red tint all over the screen. Played the same credit roll with the Sharp and it is black. I don't know what of make of this. I didn't check other discs as it was very late so I left it at that. What could be wrong here ? I can't wait to check out the same scene with the Sharp Z12000 when I receive it this week. I am also planning to grab MI-3 in Blu-ray and play it back with my Pio FD51 player just to rule out the HD DVD disc and the HD DVD player as the culprits. I doubt it is the disc as the problem is not present on the Sharp.

Sounds like your color temperature is set towards the warm side.

I have mine set to Cool and no reddish blacks at all.

-J
post #4554 of 8492
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Originally Posted by DoubleDeuce!!! View Post

Wizzack,

Any news yet on your warranty repair?

Nick

WOW! This is weird. I signed in to post my update and just saw your post.

I was working from home today and the doorbell rings. It's UPS with the projector. Would have been nice if Panasonic let me know they were shipping since I just talked to them last week.

My packing slip says: "CST STATING THAT HE IS GETTING A GREEN TINT, WHEN CST PUTS UP CONVERGENCE TEST PATTERN, CST DOES NOT GETTING 2 ROWS OF GREEN"

Service performed: "CLEANED"

To my eyes it looks better. A lot better. I have no idea what they did. Will check menu settings and throw up some patterns tonight. Or maybe I just leave it alone and be happy. I just had on "Gigi" on HDNet and the colors were rich and natural with no ****** green tint. Vibrant reds, blues, etc and whites were white.

I assume there's no charge since the form said it would have to be paid BEFORE they mailed it back. Haven't had a chance to call them to confirm anything yet.
post #4555 of 8492
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Originally Posted by Walpurgisnacht View Post

Sounds like your color temperature is set towards the warm side.

I have mine set to Cool and no reddish blacks at all.

-J

I checked the gray scale ramp and I see no red push there.
post #4556 of 8492
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Originally Posted by qlee72 View Post

david,

So you used MDF sheets for surfaces? What was the thickness? What sizes to MDF sheets come in? How far apart did you space the 2x8s? I need a riser for a sofa and I want enough space for feet so I was thinking about 60"W (or deep) by atleast 80"L (maybe 96"). Did you panel all sides or did you leave the bottom open? How high was your riser?

Sorry I didn't respond sooner, had a busy weekend. I had a typo in my original post, I used OSB for the top, not MDF. I left the bottom open and I spaced the 2x8s 12" apart. I covered it with carpet pad and carpet. Its pretty heavy, but still moveable.
post #4557 of 8492
having a problem with the trigger output on the PT-AE4000u. My Da-Lite screen needs 12v (Panny has that) and 83mv to trigger screen. I have set the trigger to "output" by using the info on the CD that came with the Panny.

Doesn't trigger the screen. Anyone using Da-Lite roll-up and the PT-ae4000u?

Screen was working fine with my Optoma, so I don't think the problem is in the screen or wiring.
post #4558 of 8492
Well after so much reading and research, I bit the bullet last night and ordered the PT-AE4000 from PP. Performance specs and features knocked out every other projector I researched in the price range.
I am so excited and nervous at the same time. This is my first projector and I can't wait to get it up and running and experience a cinema scope screen with my favorite movies in my house. I am very anxious about this purchase, I just hope this projector lives up to my expectations. I've never seen it in action in person, that is where most of my anxiety is coming from.

I've got a few questions for anybody who has recently ordered from PP.

How is shipping working out lately, with new PT-AE4000 orders shipping weekly?
Just trying to get an idea of when this thing will arrive at my door. Should I get it by the end of the week? I am going to have to do some re-wiring and move my equipment around to get my room ready for the projector.
post #4559 of 8492
nothign to be nervous about, will be spectacular and you will hate TVs for the most part afterwards
post #4560 of 8492
thanks David!
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