Panasonic PT-AE4000 MSRP $1999 - Page 153

Did they tell you what number you were on the waiting list? I ordered my on March 14th, and was told that I was #93. They received two shipments in since my order (50 units and 20 units), but as of this morning they did not know when the next shipment was arriving. Hopefully they will get it soon, and it will be at least 23 units

Wow, I didn't know there was a waiting list. I ordered online and I haven't talked to anyone from PP yet. Sounds like it may be a few weeks before it shows up. When I ordered free shipping was back, so I thought maybe they had some in stock.

I have about 100 hours on 4000 and absolutely enjoying my projector. However, I have noticed when watching hockey games (HD), there are times when the picture shows a trailing effect of the hockey puck. Is this normal for this LCD projector or am I missing adjusting a particular setting? Appreciate any insight.

I just got updated that 28 more units should arrive at PP on Thursday...mine should ship this week.

Definitely not insights, since I mostly watch movies with this projector. So purely out of speculation, I would be looking at two places, if you have not done so:

Frame Creation setting under Picture -> Advanced menu. For sports, many set it to be 1 or 2. It should reduce the after images.

Another setting is Frame Response under Option. Try setting it to fast.

Hope this helps.

I have just received my screen yesterday, and was watching Sens vs Mtl, I did notice the exact same thing as you.

Frame creation was set to 1, I have set it to disable and then the trailing effect disapeared.

any reason why you would NOT set frame response to fast?

i just put mine on fast and left it?! lol. i play games and stream movies over pc mostly

That's a pretty good outcome. You've pushed me towards sending mine in as well. I'm getting a new camera very soon (14 MP) so I'll post some pictures and get everyone's opinion on how bad my misconvergence is.

A few posts back (#4549) I posted about a multi-month problem I've had with certain channels dropping frames/skipping using my PT-AE4000u with my FiOS HD boxes. As I expressed then, it has been a crazy few months trying to fix this.

Tonight, I randomly turned Frame Creation to "Off" from "Mode 1." And for the first time in 3 months I had no skipping at all on any channels. Amazing.

This brings me to the following question...

Most people here seem to use Frame Creation. If I use it, I get frame drops/skipping on many of my HD channels. I can only conclude one of two things:
A. There is something wrong with my Projector and Frame Creation isn't working as it should.
B. It's normal that for some set-ups/channels that Frame Creation actually causes skipping of the picture.

Basically, unless my Projector is broken, I'm stuck with Frame Creation off from now on...

Thoughts?

IQ22 -- Although the Frame Creation (FC or sometimes called Frame Insertion, FI) function "may" be broken on your AE4000, you may be mis-interpreting what it is supposed to do. FC was mainly introduced to take care of 1080p/24 (24 frames per second) "judder" that can occur in movies on Blu-Ray discs, most of which are mastered at 24 fps (and are a progressive, frame by frame signal = 1080p).

TV programs are usually broadcast as 1080i/60 (interlaced, 60 fps - in this case, fields per second). Using FC (or FI) on these signals may be "confusing" the processor chips since it is trying to insert frames between successive fields of an interlaced signal (2 fields = 1 frame). The assumption that I am making is that your STB (your FIOS HD box) is sending an interlaced signal (1080i) to your AE4000, and not a 1080p/30 (30 fps progressive) signal.

Part of your problem might be solved if your FIOS STB is capable of sending a 1080p video to your AE4000 (but it must be set to do so). Most HD TV tuners can only send a 1080i video signal to a display. The FC function may not be able to operate correctly with that kind of signal. Also, the AE4000 must be set to output your video at a 60 frame per second rate (twice the normal 30fps rate of a normal 1080p/30 video). I don't own an AE4000, so I don't have the detailed setup required.

If you are trying to use the FC function to eliminate motion blur on TV signals, I think there is another setup function that needs to be set in the AE4000 to perform that function. You need to double-check your owner's manual for that (I believe that there is one). In other words, getting the AE4000 set up to correctly handle a 1080 interlaced input signal may be the key to solving the problem. Also (from your prior post - Lost on ABC HD), your problem may be due to the signal source, itself, and not what the other parts of the video chain are doing.

Turning Off FC is certainly the solution to the frame skipping (dropping). That shuts off all "extra" video processing that may, or may not, add extra artifacts to the signal. FC is not a cure for all video ills, and was not intended to be a fix for poor video quality.

A better approach is to connect your STB to an AV Receiver which has a decent video de-interlacer to convert the 1080i video signal to 1080p, before outputing to the AE4000. For example, I use the on-board HQV Reon-VX chip of the Onkyo NR3007 to convert my 1080i/50 HDTV signal (HDTV in Hong Kong is broadcasted in 50Hz) to 1080p/50 signal and feed it to AE4000, and use Frame Creation Mode 1 to enhance playback smoothness - the result is perfect without noticing any frame dropping.

IQ22 - I have my 4000 hooked up to my Onkyo 876 AVR which outputs my signal from my Time Warner Cable to 1080p. I can tell you that the other day I was watching golf on a HD signal and when the camera was following the ball in the air (all you can see is sky and ball) it would show almost 3 balls. I turned FC from Mode 1 to Off and this fixed it. I have used FC set to Mode 1 for HD football but never really saw a distraction.

What is the best way to integrate this projector with my theater remote? IR extender?

I can only assume that your remote is in the same room as the projector. In that case, just 'bounce' the IR off the screen. I know that works for both the AE-4000 remote and my Harmony remote.

Ok the remote is in the same room, but I was tring to do RF with my stuff... what is the serial control for on the back of the projector?

HELP AE-4000 owners

has anyone noticed the fan kind of pulsing, i.e. not a smooth consistent noise. This projector is my fourth pana (ae3000 ax200 ae900) and seems the loudest.

have sent back to panasonic who replaced the fan and said the set up internally is different and pushes over the power supply, any way still pulsing on eco mode. replies would be appreciated as i want to be happier about my purchase. I sit close about 4.5 ft apart from the noise it is beautiful.

New PT-AE4000 PJ, great machine but have 2 questions:

1. What a cheap remote, where are the direct input buttons? Yeah there is 1 FUNCTION button progammable (wo-wo) but switching input with Harmony is pain in the as* to configure and I need to switch input between my activites.

Any direct IR codes or tweak?



2. Is there a way the the PJ will remember the picture mode between input and/or input signal?

My previous Optoma did that. For example, on HDMI1 1080P it would goes in CINEMA 1 mode, on HDMI1 1080i, it woulf goes in DYNAMIC mode and on HDMI3 it would goes in NORMAL mode.

Or again, any direct IR code to go in a specific PICTURE mode or a profile mode so I can add that to my Harmony?

Thanks

No, not directly. Most of what you want to do can be done via the RS232 port on the back. This has been discussed in some detail in the following thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=rs232

The RS232 commands are discussed in detail on pages 42 through 44 in the Function Manual which I believe is on the CD packed with your projector.

About ready to pull the trigger. I assume people buying from "PP" is Projector People?? Is that right?

Also, is anyone gaming on this projector? How is the input lag?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, PP is projector people. Update on my order for those that care, it shipped from PP today, I should have it on Friday, yippeee!

I just got my AE4000 from PP (Projector People). Dealt with Todd, great service. A then friend forwarded it to me in Australia.

Does anyone know, or care to speculate, if a DVDO Edge would be of much benifit with an AE4000 when watching low res source like PC or SD TV?

Or does the AE4000 process the image enough internaly to not make the DVDO Edge worthwhile? I can get one for $500.

Thanks,

Steve

I have a DVDO Edge paired with the 4K and the improvement is significant which made me very happy. You will not regret it if you go that route as I did.

Thanks, I think I'll get it and give it a go

Still hoping someone can comment on gaming on this projector!

*prays*

WilliamG, there is a thread about lag times. If i did this right this link should take you there.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1210981

Thanks CSMike, must have missed that since it's in the $3k+ forum! Good info. Looks to be 33ms-40ms. Should be just fine for my gaming needs.

How good is the Edge in noise reduction. I read it doesn't do a good job in that department.

How far below the screen would this need to be to use the auto zoom function? My ceiling is only 7.5' and I didn't plan on mounting a projector any lower than I could so at most maybe 6.75'. Figured my screen would be at least 12 inches down or more.

The centerline of the projector needs to be at, or below, the the top edge of the screen for the auto zoom to work reliably and properly. Apparently, some folks have fudge a bit by tipping the projector down but this will introduce keystoning of the picture. (You might consider mounting the projector over a seat as this will prevent someone from walking into it.)

I talked with PP earlier tonight, they said they are getting 106 units in!! Mine should ship out Friday.