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post #4711 of 8336
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Originally Posted by john barlow View Post

Problem is, when I use the 2.35:1 calculator, It tells me to mount the pj at 17'10" from the screen, I can't do that because the room is only 17 feet deep.

My specs for my room in my new home said that the room was 19' deep but that was an error. I found this out after the screen was delivered. That's why I was hoping that I would use the 16:9 calc to mount at 13'7" and when I am viewing blu rays that are cinemascope, I'd hit Zoom preset and the pic would pan out to fill the 2.35:1 area of the 130' screen.

The only other option I would have would be to mount the pj out of the room and that would drive my wife crazy, not to mention make me look like some kind of idiot.

John, what you need to do is to go to page 14 of the manual. Calculate the minimum and maximum distances for both the 16:9 and 2.35:1 screens. (Be sure to sure the correct diagonal measurement for both!) You then take the Maximum 'minimum distance' and the Minimum 'maximum distance'. You have to mount the projector between those dimensions. As I understand it, mounting as near to the screen as possible will give you the brightest image.
post #4712 of 8336
The Panasonic PTAE-4000 has 2 lamp modes: normal vs eco.
Does using the eco mode give the lamp a longer life? If so, how many hours more?
Or is the eco mode only to save energy?
post #4713 of 8336
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Originally Posted by wizzack View Post

Here's my temporary solution. The monoprice mount hangs down too far with the extension in so I had to get a shorter one (delivery today). I keep hitting so many roadblocks. Maybe this is a sign....ugh!



Thick rubber washers and some of that rubber used in kitchen drawers. I was still able to get the mount level and it did cut down the vibration with the washer/dryer running so I'll probably stick with it.

Thanks very much for the picture. I got the idea now. The rubber washers are a good idea. I may play with mine.

In terms of roadblocks, was that you who had to send the unit in for repair of convergence issues?

Thanks again.
post #4714 of 8336
You can use that Monoprice mount with no extension at all. Just take it out.
post #4715 of 8336
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Originally Posted by 8140david View Post

The Panasonic PTAE-4000 has 2 lamp modes: normal vs eco.
Does using the eco mode give the lamp a longer life? If so, how many hours more?
Or is the eco mode only to save energy?

Eco mode should give you longer lamp life, and I want to say by up to 50%, but this is just a wild guess.

There is another aspect of this: Many of us took advice from more experience owners to start with eco mode for the first 500 hours, and then switch to normal, to even out the effect of fast degradation lamp brightness during the first 500 hours.
post #4716 of 8336
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Originally Posted by K-Spaz View Post

You can use that Monoprice mount with no extension at all. Just take it out.

Yup that was my original plan but the projector wont be down far enough so the lens is inside of where my 2.35 screen will be. I ordered this mount before knowing that - whoops!

jjmbxkb, yes that's it and little things here and there. I'll get this thing up and going soon and not look back!
post #4717 of 8336
Hi, wizzack: I'm sure things will work out great eventually. The bumps will just make that moment so much sweeter.

Love your list of short movie blogs/twitts. Very cool. After all, that is the whole reason to get better sound and picture. How did you get them consolidated into one list? You kept a movie journal or there is an avsforum utility doing that for you?

Personally, I think once your got your projector up and running, adding screenshots to these quick thoughts would be even more dramatic.
post #4718 of 8336
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Originally Posted by jjmbxkb View Post

Hi, wizzack: I'm sure things will work out great eventually. The bumps will just make that moment so much sweeter.

Love your list of short movie blogs/twitts. Very cool. After all, that is the whole reason to get better sound and picture. How did you get them consolidated into one list? You kept a movie journal or there is an avsforum utility doing that for you?

Personally, I think once your got your projector up and running, adding screenshots to these quick thoughts would be even more dramatic.

jjmbxkb, thanks & glad you got a kick out it.

I love horror movies and the Halloween season so what better way to enjoy it than have a movie marathon. Some of us maniacs over in the dvd area of this forum watch as many horror movies as we can in October and everyone posts their thoughts after each one.

This year will be the 3rd year and I'm going to use your awesome idea...post a screenshot of the movie from the AE4000! I love it! This year will be special. I can't imagine how crazy some of these movies are going to look on the big screen. btw - those screenshots you posted look really great. I saw your gallery is one of the most popular on the bd forum. Kudos!
post #4719 of 8336
wizzack: Thanks for the encouragement.

I just subscribed to that thread. Will be watching out for those cool shots and witty comments. Just make sure you get a better Camera than mine. Also, Blu-ray will look even better than DVDs on your big screen.

Thanks again.
post #4720 of 8336
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Originally Posted by SteveMo View Post

Whatever..

Not sure what this means. Care to expand on that comment?

Anyway, I started to hook everything up last night and ended up ruining my 25' HMDI cable. I had it plugged in to the AVR and I turned the ARV to get to the back to hook up the wiring. I didn't notice that the HMDI was stuck and when I turn it I bent the male connector. It's toast. Grrrr. I ordered another one and it should be here Monday.

I was impatient to see it working though, so I hooked the Blu-ray/HD DVD player directly to the projector. After a quick focus and position, all I can say is WOW and this is projecting onto a mauve painted semi-gloss wall! My wife and kids were impressed also. We're moving from a 57" RPTV CRT and I like what I've seen so far!

John
post #4721 of 8336
i wish panasonic had more faith in their product past 2000 hours. i would have purchased this projector had it not been for epson having a better warranty.

the store im purchasing the projector from would have extended the warranty up to 4 years but since panasonic cuts off their warranty at 2000 hours, if in the 4 year period i surpassed 2000 hours, then i would not be able to get free bulbs. but with epsons warranty, i can get free bulbs for 4 years from my local video store. so it was an obvious choice to get the 8500UB
post #4722 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Drahcir View Post

Hi there, I'm a proud owner of a Pany 4000u for about a month. Everything was working great until last night. I turned on the pj and a strange oval " stain", blue-tinted appears in the center-left of the screen. It's about 5" in diameter and it constantly moves right to left, up and down. The stain is very suttle, it only be seen in dark scenes and does'nt affect the image in bright scenes. I'm worried, does anyone know what is happening? The bulb only has 87 hours, I turn off the Auto Iris, worked with the settings and the stain stays. The other problem I notice (it happens more often) is that the image moves itself about a inch up or down, left to righ. This is normal. Please help me!!!

It's a dust blob- don't worry about, just dust as the manual suggests. You might also want invest in a good air cleaner if dust is an issue and keep the PJ away from any central air vents.

Also, the inch or so of movement seems to come from putting on/taking off the lens cap and having manual shift controls. Just re-adjust it if it moves.

-J
post #4723 of 8336
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Originally Posted by MistaChy View Post

i wish panasonic had more faith in their product past 2000 hours. i would have purchased this projector had it not been for epson having a better warranty.

the store im purchasing the projector from would have extended the warranty up to 4 years but since panasonic cuts off their warranty at 2000 hours, if in the 4 year period i surpassed 2000 hours, then i would not be able to get free bulbs. but with epsons warranty, i can get free bulbs for 4 years from my local video store. so it was an obvious choice to get the 8500UB

I'd rather take the chance and have the picture quality I'm happy with. Lamp-life specs are loose estimates that shouldn't be treated as iron-clad. I have (had) a 2005 Sony 55 inch WEGA LCD RPTV that should've had lamp issues a couple of years ago since it's so heavily used and it still works/looks like new.

-J
post #4724 of 8336
I have a quick question about CIH, my screen wall is about 130" wide. Right now I have the projector temporary throwing up a image on the screen wall that is filling the entire width of the wall, whether its 16x9 or 2.35. So I guess its a CIW. To do CIH do I need to zoom in and make the image smaller for the 16x9 content? And then zoom back out for 2.35 scope content? I kind of like having that really huge 16x9 image that covers nearly all of the wall. But most of my watching will be scope material. I guess if I go with this CIW I can make some masking material and mask off the part of the screen for when I am watching scope material.

My projector mount came in yesterday from monoprice.com, I hope to have everything mounted and wired up this weekend, so I can get the final specs for my screen size, but its going to be a busy weekend with Easter and everything going on.
post #4725 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Terminator840 View Post

I have a quick question about CIH, my screen wall is about 130" wide. Right now I have the projector temporary throwing up a image on the screen wall that is filling the entire width of the wall, whether its 16x9 or 2.35. So I guess its a CIW. To do CIH do I need to zoom in and make the image smaller for the 16x9 content? And then zoom back out for 2.35 scope content? I kind of like having that really huge 16x9 image that covers nearly all of the wall. But most of my watching will be scope material. I guess if I go with this CIW I can make some masking material and mask off the part of the screen for when I am watching scope material.

My projector mount came in yesterday from monoprice.com, I hope to have everything mounted and wired up this weekend, so I can get the final specs for my screen size, but its going to be a busy weekend with Easter and everything going on.

Yes, you will get smaller 16:9 image in CIH, since you got to fit a taller shape into a wider shape. If you go with CIW, then the scope images are smaller.

I think I know what you mean by liking the 16:9 image filling up the wall. The height of the image has an impact on you as the immersiveness of scope aspect ratio does, equally impressive but different.

Vertical masking in CIH and Horizontal masking in CIW improves perceived contrast. IMHO, masking is one of those things that you don't feel the need for until you actually try it.
post #4726 of 8336
My opinion is that you figure out if your screen is width restricted or height restricted. In my case I could not go any wider than 104". So I chose to go with a 119" 16:9 screen. This makes both my 16:9 and 2.35:1 movies 104" wide. If I would have choosen a CIH setup with a 2.35:1 screen, then my 16:9 images would have been smaller.
post #4727 of 8336
What is supposed to do, and which setting should be used ?
I have various materials from BD rips with high PQ up to heavily compressed SD divx old films.
Projection is on the painted wall, 360 cm diagonal (~12 feet), room is rather dark even at day and I did those test at night in complete darkness.
Can't see any effect of these settings - good image stays good, bad with pixelization and block noise stays bad.
Are those filters so subtle they can't be seen visually (so what is their purpose ) or I miss something ? May some other setting cancels them (clarity which I have at 4,sharpening (but it is set to 0)) ?
post #4728 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Walpurgisnacht View Post

It's a dust blob- don't worry about, just dust as the manual suggests. You might also want invest in a good air cleaner if dust is an issue and keep the PJ away from any central air vents.

Also, the inch or so of movement seems to come from putting on/taking off the lens cap and having manual shift controls. Just re-adjust it if it moves.

-J

I picked this up as a proactive measure against dust blobs.

http://www.amazon.com/Winix-9000S-Ai...0299971&sr=8-5
post #4729 of 8336
Consumer's Union, the publishers of Consumer Reports magazine, did an expose of those 3 foot tall (or so) air filter towers that places like Sharper Image (at least used to) sell. In a nutshell they said they are completely inadequate to filter a room sized area, but give the illusion that they are doing the job because after a day or so their filters do indeed show dirt. This is analogous to putting on a pair of white gloves, running your fingers over the top of a piece of furniture, and declaring, "See the dirt? I just dusted my room!" What they do is remove 1% of the room air dust/dirt while that quickly gets replaced within minutes from the outside world (unless you live in a hermetically sealed box, that is). Leaving them on 24/7 and they'll still never catch up with the constant influx of new dirt/dust.

They said there are room air filters available that do truly work, but they are comparatively expensive and more the size of a window mounted air conditioner at the very least.

Sorry for the bad news but I thought people should know.

The entire air purifying industry seems to be awash with scams and quackery.
post #4730 of 8336
I have a couple of these air purifiers in the house and they truly work and are silent on the lowest setting. I've had a dozen differet brands/makes, but this item is the best out there I have found. Both are identical:

http://www.amazon.com/Blueair-403-He...0338522&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.com/Blueair-402-Ai...338522&sr=1-19

Reduces the dust you see in the projector beam to almost zero in minutes
post #4731 of 8336
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Originally Posted by stevenkelby View Post

I have a couple of these air purifiers in the house and they truly work and are silent on the lowest setting. I've had a dozen differet brands/makes, but this item is the best out there I have found. Both are identical:

http://www.amazon.com/Blueair-403-He...0338522&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.com/Blueair-402-Ai...338522&sr=1-19

Reduces the dust you see in the projector beam to almost zero in minutes

I have the the projector mounted on a shelf just 18" from eye level and even though the HT is vacuumed every week, I can't believe the amount of dust I see in the projector beam. I really hate that, bothers me a lot. Thanks for the link. I was thinking of getting the Blueair-215B from Costco, mainly for the lifetime warranty. I am also looking at the Rabbit Air BioGS (model 421A) and Winix 9000. Do you have any experience with any of these?
post #4732 of 8336
Ok its been a long day, and I am pretty wiped out. But I am working on my HT tonight. Why can't I get this Monoprice mount to work? I can only get the mount to match up to three holes on the projector. What am I doing wrong? Its the same mount lots of people are using here.

Probably need to call it a night and work on it when I am not brain dead.
post #4733 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Terminator840 View Post

Ok its been a long day, and I am pretty wiped out. But I am working on my HT tonight. Why can't I get this Monoprice mount to work? I can only get the mount to match up to three holes on the projector. What am I doing wrong? Its the same mount lots of people are using here.

Probably need to call it a night and work on it when I am not brain dead.

Can you take a photo of the mount with the holes you are using?
post #4734 of 8336
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Originally Posted by dumalkin View Post

What is supposed to do, and which setting should be used ?
I have various materials from BD rips with high PQ up to heavily compressed SD divx old films.
Projection is on the painted wall, 360 cm diagonal (~12 feet), room is rather dark even at day and I did those test at night in complete darkness.
Can't see any effect of these settings - good image stays good, bad with pixelization and block noise stays bad.
Are those filters so subtle they can't be seen visually (so what is their purpose ) or I miss something ? May some other setting cancels them (clarity which I have at 4,sharpening (but it is set to 0)) ?

Usually Digital NR does more harm than good to the picutre. I own a PT-AE4000 too. Treaked with those settings but found almost no effect to the PQ (just like what you mentioned). To play safe, I turned it off completely.
post #4735 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

I have the the projector mounted on a shelf just 18" from eye level and even though the HT is vacuumed every week, I can't believe the amount of dust I see in the projector beam. I really hate that, bothers me a lot. Thanks for the link. I was thinking of getting the Blueair-215B from Costco, mainly for the lifetime warranty. I am also looking at the Rabbit Air BioGS (model 421A) and Winix 9000. Do you have any experience with any of these?

After reading Steven Kelby's post, I have decided to return my Winix 9000s and purchase a recoditioned Blueair 550E, it's $499 instead of $699 and has a CADR rating of 380. They honor their 5 year warranty on these reconditioned units.

My Winix 9000S CADR rating was a woefull 142. Thanks for the info and I'm glad I did some more reasearch. Why get a unit that probably wouldn't go far enough to protect my pj. I think it's worth the extra $300, plus I will be breathing healthier air.

http://www.blueairstore.com/product/689122000756-R.html
post #4736 of 8336
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Originally Posted by john barlow View Post

After reading Steven Kelby's post, I have decided to return my Winix 9000s and purchase a recoditioned Blueair 550E, it's $499 instead of $699 and has a CADR rating of 380. They honor their 5 year warranty on these reconditioned units.

My Winix 9000S CADR rating was a woefull 142. Thanks for the info and I'm glad I did some more reasearch. Why get a unit that probably wouldn't go far enough to protect my pj. I think it's worth the extra $300, plus I will be breathing healthier air.

http://www.blueairstore.com/product/689122000756-R.html

Where can I read about Air purifier ? Like reviews and rating ?
post #4737 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

I have the the projector mounted on a shelf just 18" from eye level and even though the HT is vacuumed every week, I can't believe the amount of dust I see in the projector beam. I really hate that, bothers me a lot. Thanks for the link. I was thinking of getting the Blueair-215B from Costco, mainly for the lifetime warranty. I am also looking at the Rabbit Air BioGS (model 421A) and Winix 9000. Do you have any experience with any of these?

No worries. I did have a 2 series here for a week, 203 or something from memory. It was fine but fairly noisy on the lowest setting, too noisy for me so I sent it back for a 4xx.

The 2xx was intended for my bed room which is small, hence the need for only a small unit, and I read that the sound output was the same for both, so I got the cheaper one.

Sound output is no where near the same to my ears.

I'm a super light sleeper and very sensitive to sound anyway. I built a truly silent PC with hard drives in another room, my car has 100 pounds of dynamat etc. Still, the 2xx would have been ok in the home theater room on lowest setting, it's only slightly louder than the AE4000, but it's too small to do my big room efficiently. A 4xx is just right.

The 4xx is quiet enough for me to sleep with it on the lowest setting. It is audible, but a very "distant" sound like a steady wind blowing far away It's the least annoying sound imaginable and probably helps me sleep as it smooths out other sounds from traffic and such. I live in the hills and it's very quiet here anyway.

Oh and the 4xx are the quietest unit Blueair sell. If I had a huge room I would just get another 1 or 2, or go with a full on custom built in system.

By the way, according to the rep here, all 2xx are funcionally the same as each other, all 4xx are the same, 5xx are the same etc, the xx just signify an updated model or accesories . For example the 402 and 403 I linked above are identical, but one comes with a little reminder thing that counts down to 6 months (recommended filter change interval).

The rep also said they all make the same sound, obviously he never listened, or is deaf

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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

Where can I read about Air purifier ? Like reviews and rating ?

I spent a very long time searching and as far as I can tell, no where

There are people with experience on various non-air purifier forums around the place, PC, car, stereo forums and so on, but I never found anything comprehensive. Just google and read till you go crazy

I just ended up buying a lot of differet ones over the years, most are crap, even up to $1000.

The only other brand apart from blueair that were good was IQ Air but they are even more $$$ than the blueair.

Hope that helps!
post #4738 of 8336
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Originally Posted by Alex solomon View Post

Where can I read about Air purifier ? Like reviews and rating ?

I began my search on Amazon. They list a lot of different air purifiers with a mountain of reviews. From what I can tell, the important thing about the unit is the square feet that it covers and the CADR rating. If it's under 150 it's inadequete. I bought the Blueair 550E which has a CADR rating of 380 which is excellent. Reconditioned unit will save you a lot of money and still get a 5 year warranty.
post #4739 of 8336
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Originally Posted by stevenkelby View Post

No worries. I did have a 2 series here for a week, 203 or something from memory. It was fine but fairly noisy on the lowest setting, too noisy for me so I sent it back for a 4xx.

The 2xx was intended for my bed room which is small, hence the need for only a small unit, and I read that the sound output was the same for both, so I got the cheaper one.

Sound output is no where near the same to my ears.

I'm a super light sleeper and very sensitive to sound anyway. I built a truly silent PC with hard drives in another room, my car has 100 pounds of dynamat etc. Still, the 2xx would have been ok in the home theater room on lowest setting, it's only slightly louder than the AE4000, but it's too small to do my big room efficiently. A 4xx is just right.

The 4xx is quiet enough for me to sleep with it on the lowest setting. It is audible, but a very "distant" sound like a steady wind blowing far away It's the least annoying sound imaginable and probably helps me sleep as it smooths out other sounds from traffic and such. I live in the hills and it's very quiet here anyway.

Oh and the 4xx are the quietest unit Blueair sell. If I had a huge room I would just get another 1 or 2, or go with a full on custom built in system.

By the way, according to the rep here, all 2xx are funcionally the same as each other, all 4xx are the same, 5xx are the same etc, the xx just signify an updated model or accesories . For example the 402 and 403 I linked above are identical, but one comes with a little reminder thing that counts down to 6 months (recommended filter change interval).

The rep also said they all make the same sound, obviously he never listened, or is deaf



I spent a very long time searching and as far as I can tell, no where

There are people with experience on various non-air purifier forums around the place, PC, car, stereo forums and so on, but I never found anything comprehensive. Just google and read till you go crazy

I just ended up buying a lot of differet ones over the years, most are crap, even up to $1000.

The only other brand apart from blueair that were good was IQ Air but they are even more $$$ than the blueair.

Hope that helps!

Thank you that helps a lot. My HT room is about 19 x 17. I am looking at the 500 or 400 series. I am trying to decide whether the auto function and the remote control of the 4xxE series worth the extra coin. I hope AE4000 owners won't mind that we took this a bit off topic. Sorry guys.
post #4740 of 8336
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Originally Posted by john barlow View Post

I began my search on Amazon. They list a lot of different air purifiers with a mountain of reviews. From what I can tell, the important thing about the unit is the square feet that it covers and the CADR rating. If it's under 150 it's inadequete. I bought the Blueair 550E which has a CADR rating of 380 which is excellent. Reconditioned unit will save you a lot of money and still get a 5 year warranty.

Thanks, I will look into that.
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