Panasonic PT-AE4000 MSRP $1999 - Page 232

Try MODE1 instead of turning off frame creation entirely. It eliminates most judder without introducing artifacts. I find MODE2 and 3 useless because they work inconsistently and therefore draw attention to themselves. Presumably the expected AE5000 will have better processing in this area.

My wife told me to pick out a projector mount for my birthday. It is going to be mounted in the middle of our living room and I need it to hang down about 3-4 feet. I do not want to see the wires and I need it to look as good as possible. Does anyone have suggestions?

Look at the Chief RPA mounts. They use a 1 1/2" pipe for the mount, you can run wires through the pipe.

Is that the same as frame creation? I tried it with off and all 3 modes. Saw it less with it off and in Mode 1 but it was still there.

See the links here, the telescoping section is optional, can just use standard 2" NPT pipe:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post20035192

Yes, it's the same thing. Not sure what to do with the remaining trailing effect. Sorry.

Are you watching 720p native sources or 720p converted to 1080i by your cable box? Can you replay the sequence frame by frame, (like on a Tivo/DVR) to verify the signal coming out of your cable/sat box doesn't "have three balls in the air"?

If the problem is only on 720P stations such as ESPN and FOX but not on 1080i ones then it may be a scaling issue and it may be out of your control.

Thanks for everyone's help. I will check the signal coming in. I only saw it on Foxsports and golf channel right now.

By the way, JJMBXKB, beautiful basement.

+1. The best I have seen so far from any AVS member. Someday I am going to build a HT room exactly like his.

Dough58, Alex: Thanks very much, and you are being too kind. It's unfair to even compare mine with so many dedicated home theaters, not even the moderate ones.

I do hope it gives people some ideas on alternatives to hard core setups, such as CIW/CIH, mounting limitations, screen height, size, throw distance that I saw so many people struggle with.

But, thanks again. Appreciate your kind words.

Decided that I am going to go with the 4000, I see a few places that have it in stock and all are the same price. Where did you buy from and why?

I already tried to contact projectorpeople.com but they have failed to reply to my e-mail for a week now...

I bought from projectorpeople and they were very pleasant to deal with.

They were NOT willing to wiggle on the price at ALL but the rebate deal was winding down and they were the only ones with any in stock so they had the remaining market cornered I suppose.

They split overnight shipping with me and that was nice!

Couple quick questions,

The 4000 is on the top of my wish list, however, financially its just not a viable option any time soon. I may have an opportunity to snag a gently used ax200u.

First question is, anyone here have first person experience comparing the two? Just wondering how image quality compares between the ax200u and the ae4000u. I know its not a fair comparison....Im just curious if anyone has had experience with both and what their opinion is.

Second, (and ill probably post this in the ax200 thread too) I really want a 2.35 screen, for one i like the cinematic feel of 2.35, and two, i want to upgrade to the 4000 eventually, but i dont want to have to build a second screen. I realize with the ax200 that would mean manually zooming and lens shifts between formats, which isnt really an issue for me...the PJ will be easily accessible and 85% percent of the material we watch is 2.35. Minus the occasional "big game" and some gaming.

Im kind of limited on height, i can probably only go about 48" tall, at 1.78 thats about 98" diagonally....which is plenty big for 1.78 material, but when you shrink it down for 2.35 stuff its smaller than i think ill be happy with, so im thinking stay at 48" high and go for 2.35, i dont sacrifice any size for 1.78 but gain the extra width that awesome cinematic feel for the 2.35 material.

So i suppose the question is, does this seem like a viable option? I suppose i could shrink down to a 46" tall 2.35 screen which would be 120" diagonally, do you think thats too large for 720p projector.

First row screen to eyeballs is about 10' second row is at about 17' projector would be shooting from about 16 feet.

Thanks in advance!

Projectorpoint aka Tierney Brothers has the best price I have seen on this PJ. Problem for me is they are local to me so I would have to pay tax. This company is a reputable company. They built all the projector and audio systems in our conference rooms.

http://www.projectorpoint.com/produc...T-AE4000U.aspx

I don't have any personal experience with the ax200, but my advice would be to find a way to get an AE4000 or 3000 now. If you have a 2.35 screen you need motorized zoom, period. I used my Epson business projector to watch movies for several months until the AE4000 was released, and manual zooming got old real fast. Not the zooming part, but the constant refocusing. I haven't refocused my AE4000 since I installed it.


No, that's not too large. And yes, you definitely want a 2.35 screen, especially since height is the limiting factor. How wide is your wall? If you have ten feet you might fit a 125" diagonal 2.35 screen. It won't be too big, especially not for your second row.
http://www.displaywars.com/125-inch-...s-98-inch-16x9

If you want to save money on your screen, you could consider the WilsonArt laminate approach, lots of how-to instruction to be found here.

Thanks for the input. Id love to find a way to get the 4000 but its just not going to happen. I've had my theater 90% done for a year now, right now im using a 42' plasma for video, lol but im all setup for a projector, financially things have been very tight, the only reason I've even got a shot at a PJ now is because of a used local sale. My wife is soon going back to school, so thats going to completely eliminate the possibility of purchase later on (at least for the next several years) which im just not willing to wait anymore.

My plan for the screen is actually to go with seymourAV AT screen material, and i will build my own frame. I suppose worse case scenario since im hitting my max height anyway, is to build the 2.35 screen to max size, and then if the constant zooming and shifting get to be a pain, i can mask the sides and just use it as a 1.78 screen until i can upgrade...

Not sure why i didnt think of that to begin with.....I guess thats why it pays to think "out loud" sometimes.

Yes I actually have 11' and some change in width, I suppose the ultimate test for screen size is to just get the projector first and decide on screen size later.

Got mine in no time from B&H Photo. Absolutely no complaints...

Me too.

Projector Point = Authorized Retailer of the Panasonic PT-AE4000U... Check them out.

You are being humble. I have read all 290+ comment about your gallery. I am not the only one who thinks your HT to be one of the best. I like it more than a dedicated HT setup. I could imagine the domestic harmony I can get out of that. Every woman would just kill for that setup.

Now back to the regular programming...

Alex: I think I've seen you mentioning you are now running two projectors, is it true? Where do you see the higher end Marantz(?) does better than the budget Panny 4k?

Thanks.

Hello, i was just about to pull the triger on an 8700UB just before i read the review on projectorcentral for this projector, now i'm right where i started. Can this projector be mounted at 17' with a 110' inch screen without loosing quality? can the motion for this projector be compared with a 120-240hz LCD screen, where image moves like they where a miniature inside the screen?

Yes, I have the Panasonic AE4000 and 115" 2.35 screen that I use for scope movies and the Marantz VP15s1 with all other formats on a 106" HDTV screen. Both my screens are Da-Lite high power. I bought the AE4000 before the Marantz and when I bought the VP15s1, the plan was to get anamorphic lens for it and sell the Panasonic. The anamorphic lens I wanted to get( ISCO III), is very expensive even in the used market. I am now rethinking that plan and may sell the Marantz as those lens are hard to come by for a reasonable price even in the used market.

The VP15s1 throws a magnificent picture that is so dimensional and sharp, you will get that "looking through window experience", DLP pop at it's best. Colors are just simply phenomenal, vibrant and the picture just seem jump out, especially in bright scenes, like I have not seen on any other display. Granted, I have not seen many but I have owned a JVC RS2 for a while the only thing the JVC has over the Marantz is better blacks. The lens on the Marantz (Konica Minolta) is the best in the business and gives a very sharp and crisp picture. At Iris setting of one, I find the Marantz blacks better than the AE4000. I lose brightness but gain contrast at this setting and since I have a high power screen I don't need the projector to be brighter. As a matter of fact I use ND filter on the AE4000 so that I can reduce the brightness and improve the blacks. About the only thing the AE4000 has going for it (over the Marantz, i.e.) is a lower fan noise and the lens memory function. But in my set up the lens memory is one feature I can not live without unless I get a quality anamorphic lens for cheap.

Alex:

I see, so you got a DLP projector. I've always read that DLP projectors have a lot more pop than the LCD's. Wish I could see one of them in action myself. I know the ISCO III lens is considered the best choice for anamorphic lens. Guess many people are after it. Sorry to hear that you may have to change your plan.

I think you've said before that you mounted your projectors fairly close to the centers of your high power screens, so I guess you could reach the Marantz fairly easily. Maybe you should consider manually adjusting it to zoom for scope movies, at least temporarily. I've heard many people do it. I'm not sure I can deal with the loss of picture quality from a $9,000 DLP to $2,000 LCD.

Anwway, good luck. Thanks again.

I am preparing to mount the Panasonic AE4000. I would like some advice on a couple of issues.

1. The amount of drop from the ceiling. I have an 8' ceiling. I want to be able to use lens memory and the possibility of auto zoom. I understand the lens needs to be below the top of the screen, does this mean the middle of the lens or the top/entire. I measured the lens, it is 4.5". The top of the screen is 12" from the ceiling.

A. So if this means the middle of the lens, the min measurement would be 14.25".

B. If it means the entire lens, then the min measurement would be 16.5".

Can someone please confirm which minimum measurement I should use??

Are you plannnig to use a cinemascope screen? I considered the Epson as well but, decided to go with the Panny because I desire widescreen over 16/9. 17ft mounting will be fine.

Yes, both PJs are mounted 2-3 feet from eye level. I have never considered the manual zoom option. I will give it a shot, that might work. Thanks.

At first i was considering using a 2:35 screen, but for now i'm more inclined of using a 16:9 screen as it will give more screen area from button to top (but it can change if someone convince me again into a 2:35 screen). Either screen i choose will be 9' wide as that is the space i have. But for now i'm thinking of buying a 16:9 screen, but my real concern is about the distance, with either projector, a 17' throw is ok or is too far? I can mount it whether i want, but with the 17' throw it will be more cleaner as it would be behind a drywall wall and my theater room will be more cleaner. I'm currently into the final touches of my "bat cave" home theater.

I can't see any reason to get this projector if you are going with a 16.9 screen. I just set mine up with a 138" cinemascope screen and it's magical watching a movie in full widescreen with no black bars. Even regular HDTV looks awesome. The projector switches automatically between formats also, so it could not be more perfect. Go withdrawal the cinemascope screen, you won't regret it.

I'm leaning back and forth with the screen decision, but for now i'm into finishing my room and i'm still concern with the projector screen distance. Before I make the hole on the wall i want to be sure that i will be able to use the projector that far (17'). After I finish my room i will be braking my head into deciding which screen.