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post #241 of 4725
Has anyone received their captivator(s) as of late?
post #242 of 4725
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Originally Posted by tommygee View Post

Has anyone received their captivator(s) as of late?

Jeff has been waiting on a new improved PR. Should start shipping soon.
post #243 of 4725
Been breaking in a pair of caps for a commercial install. I have one of them running off of an EP2500 bridged. I am very impressed. I have been giving them the torture tests. No problems and it sounds amazing. Kudos to Jeff on a wonderful design. Clean and powerful. I have had a ton of subs in my theater, but for the size and price...no competitors.
post #244 of 4725
thebuckaman,

Didn't you used to have a Danley TH 50? Any comparisons between the Danley and the JTR.
post #245 of 4725
The cap plays lower. The TH-50 had more output from 20Hz up but is also over double the price and size. They are two very different options. If I had size constraints and were in the market for a ~$1000 sub, the cap would be hard to beat. I loved the 50 and have no real negatives other than the extension below 20Hz, but the smaller footprint of the cap with a great deal of clean output down deep is a very nice option.
post #246 of 4725
Subjectively, how much more output would you say the TH-50 had/has over the dual caps? Above 20hz that is.... Do you feel the added output downlow of the caps is a worthwhile upgrade from being blasted by the Danley at 20hz and above?
post #247 of 4725
MFLUGSTA, I only have one cap hooked up in the system. I would have to get them both hooked up to give you a fair opinion on that. I have been surprised several times how accurate and clean the cap is. It does blend very smoothly and has some very NICE impact.
post #248 of 4725
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Originally Posted by thebuckaman View Post

MFLUGSTA, I only have one cap hooked up in the system. I would have to get them both hooked up to give you a fair opinion on that. I have been surprised several times how accurate and clean the cap is. It does blend very smoothly and has some very NICE impact.

Don't mean to speak for you but it does seem like the cap has enough output for most people. At a certain point the extra headroom does become superfluous in average size rooms, would you agree that is the case with the cap/th-50 output comparison?
post #249 of 4725
ok, Rob, this is your last warning!

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP WITH THE F@#&* UPGRADES ALREADY!!!!!!!!!! I can't keep track of you anymore, much less keep up with you.
post #250 of 4725
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

ok, Rob, this is your last warning!

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP WITH THE F@#&* UPGRADES ALREADY!!!!!!!!!! I can't keep track of you anymore, much less keep up with you.

You snooze you lose.
post #251 of 4725
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

You snooze you lose.

fine, but at least my website kicks your website's butt!

www.lordofthebass.com
post #252 of 4725
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

fine, but at least my website kicks your website's butt!

www.lordofthebass.com

Ummmm, I don't have a website but if I did, yours would kick its butt...
You even make those little robot speakers look good .

Jeff Permanian and Mark Seaton should hire you (for website building, not speakers/subs ).
post #253 of 4725
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Ummmm, I don't have a website but if I did, yours would kick its butt...
You even make those little robot speakers look good .

Jeff Permanian and Mark Seaton should hire you (for website building, not speakers/subs ).

hehehe... well, at least my website is not as amateurish as my speaker/sub builds, you are right

man, it's been really a pleasure to see the gradual progression of your system to where it is now....and will continue to go to. The relentless pursuit of audio perfection!

I've been out of the loop, just enjoying my setup, the family, etc. Still have teh quad 18's, but the electronics have all changed. Got a Cullen modded PS audio DAC, Pass Labs X2.5 Pre, Pass Labs pair of X600 monoblocks, doing the 2channel duty and streaming high rez audio, and just been really enjoying that.

hope you can make it to Florida one day and have some dinner, golf, and few hours of listening
post #254 of 4725
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hehehe... well, at least my website is not as amateurish as my speaker/sub builds, you are right

man, it's been really a pleasure to see the gradual progression of your system to where it is now....and will continue to go to. The relentless pursuit of audio perfection!

I've been out of the loop, just enjoying my setup, the family, etc. Still have teh quad 18's, but the electronics have all changed. Got a Cullen modded PS audio DAC, Pass Labs X2.5 Pre, Pass Labs pair of X600 monoblocks, doing the 2channel duty and streaming high rez audio, and just been really enjoying that.

hope you can make it to Florida one day and have some dinner, golf, and few hours of listening

Well I could (and do) say the same about your system Sherv. Your speakers and electronics put you very near the top of Audiophiledom. Me, I decided to not let perfect be the enemy of the good (where have I heard that before?) at least music wise.

I had a fellow hobbyist over for a demo/comparo during my Revel days when I was considering going to a JTR/Danley (Seaton was in the mix too) combo. He said that with my dedicated room, I could create a mini IMAX. Those words stuck in my mind and that has been the goal ever since. Movie reoriented big audio dynamics and immersive video became the mantra and I'm very satisfied with the audio performance of the system. With the video, I am pretty much technology and budget limited from doing the ideal but it is still very passable.

I'd love to hear your system someday and I'm always up for playing a little golf Florida style. You have a standing offer for the same if you're ever out to the left coast .
post #255 of 4725
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Well I could (and do) say the same about your system Sherv. Your speakers and electronics put you very near the top of Audiophiledom. Me, I decided to not let perfect be the enemy of the good (where have I heard that before?) at least music wise.

I had a fellow hobbyist over for a demo/comparo during my Revel days when I was considering going to a JTR/Danley (Seaton was in the mix too) combo. He said that with my dedicated room, I could create a mini IMAX. Those words stuck in my mind and that has been the goal ever since. Movie reoriented big audio dynamics and immersive video became the mantra and I'm very satisfied with the audio performance of the system. With the video, I am pretty much technology and budget limited from doing the ideal but it is still very passable.

I'd love to hear your system someday and I'm always up for playing a little golf Florida style. You have a standing offer for the same if you're ever out to the left coast .

yes indeed, not many people have gone thru a right procedure of getting a movie room done the way you have, so big kudos! I think you are, and should be, the envy of most of us here in terms of audio/video performance for a home theater... miniIMAX, shmini mimax, Rob's Lair is where is at!

yeah, until I get a bigger house and a dedicated hometheater room, I'm not gonna achieve what I need to achieve hometheater wise, so I'm trying to cope with the best I can with the multipurpose family room/ HT room that I have. In the meantime, I have been really tweaking the 2 channel audio part, and find myself just enjoying good high resolution music lossless 96khz and 192khz 24bit stuff..... you should hear what Diana Krall sounds like in full form!

well, I certainly will take your offer if I'm up in the northwest coast of our country... I was actually in L.A. last fall to visit family, but still a good ways away from you. Nevertheless, if you happen to stroll to florida, I hope you make the stop in fort lauderdale...my threat!
post #256 of 4725
What would I loose by going with a Captivator over something like the DTS10? Or would I loose anything?
post #257 of 4725
Keeping in mind that they are both two different animals, going by the numbers it looks like the dts 10 would have the edge in output and extension. How big of an edge is up to each individual to decide (price, footprint, performance delta)They both have their own advantage and disadvantage. They are both very capable designs.
post #258 of 4725
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Originally Posted by Big Worms View Post

What would I loose by going with a Captivator over something like the DTS10? Or would I loose anything?

I generally agree with Bodhisafa's comments above and just posted this in the JTR speaker thread. Of course, YMMV
post #259 of 4725
Thanks to both of you for you input.
post #260 of 4725
Jeff,

What is the ETA on the passive radiators?
post #261 of 4725
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Originally Posted by tommygee View Post

Jeff,

What is the ETA on the passive radiators?

Talked to Jeff yesterday. It doesn't sound like something that is on the top of his list. I would not hold my breath on that.
post #262 of 4725
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

Talked to Jeff yesterday. It doesn't sound like something that is on the top of his list. I would not hold my breath on that.


I've been waiting since early January. I can't wait much longer.

I think you're waiting on a Captivator also, aren't you?
post #263 of 4725
Yeah I am waiting on my second one. What I was saying is I don't think the reworked passive is something that is going to be done by whenever the drivers come in. He did say he did not have any eta or info on the drivers though.
post #264 of 4725
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

Yeah I am waiting on my second one. What I was saying is I don't think the reworked passive is something that is going to be done by whenever the drivers come in. He did say he did not have any eta or info on the drivers though.

Goon, have you had any of the other popular subs to compare the Cap with? Ultra, SubM, etc?
post #265 of 4725
Had no idea, according to these recent comments, the passive radiator was being re-worked, I know Jeff mentioned something about an "extra" step in the manufacturing process. I have been waiting since Dec. for mine.
post #266 of 4725
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Originally Posted by sb1 View Post

Goon, have you had any of the other popular subs to compare the Cap with? Ultra, SubM, etc?

I had the Ultra but can't do a comparison yet. I only watched one crap 80's movie (Red Heat). Also I had the ultra set up poorly.

Also had an Epik dynasty and HSU vtf3 mk3

My initial impressions were very good though so I am willing to work on placement and get it dialed in.
post #267 of 4725
The first patch of new thicker surrounds for the PR's weren't right so the company is scrambling to get new ones out to me. I'm really sorry for the delays.

After all this there shouldn't be anymore issues and Captivators will start shipping on time.
post #268 of 4725
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Originally Posted by Jeff Permanian View Post

The first patch of new thicker surrounds for the PR's weren't right so the company is scrambling to get new ones out to me. I'm really sorry for the delays.

After all this there shouldn't be anymore issues and Captivators will start shipping on time.

Great news. I bet if this sub can ship with a shorter wait it will start catching on. I am doing some light listening and so far it is up there with the other powerhouse subs I have owned. It has its own qualities for sure, it seems very tactile to be and also clean with little effort. It does not quiet have the "ease" of the epik dynasty I had but the tactile nature is mush more likable. Sound quality is there for sure. Output has not been strained yet but I don't see there being any problem, I played The Police Certifiable a few dB hot at full reference and the sub stayed very musical.

So far so good but the second will definitely help even out my room and if it ads more impact, wow.
post #269 of 4725
[The Police Certifiable a few dB hot at full reference and the sub stayed very musical.

So far so good but the second will definitely help even out my room and if it ads more impact, wow.[/quote]

you listened to this and didnt want to put a gun to your head?
post #270 of 4725
For the sound quality alone it is one of my favorite blu rays. If you want to hear your sub really go up and down and play many notes then it is a great disc. Also it is better than all the other old stuff on blu ray concerts (most are for people 50 and over it seems and thats not me yet)
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