JTR Captivator - Page 145

...except maybe an HT with four S2's.

Does anyone have a link or information about how to set up a mic 2200 with the captivator that jeff talked about?

Which I guess is the equivalent of what you have.

Goonstopher if your referring to the 2400 Passive Captivator Jonathan helped me to get the best response I could using the Dayton Omnimic V2 and the MIC2200 EQ. If not using Omnimic (MIC 2200 EQ disengaged) but engaging the HPF on the MIC2200 you can set for port tune (20Hz for my situation). Then see the cut and paste below from page 140 on this thread which details how I have plugged in cables to the back of my unit. Has worked for me perfectly with this arrangement and using the Dayton V2 Omnimic with MIC2200 EQ has gone a step further and allowed me to achieve the flattest resoponse for my situation. My trial and error with omnimic is also in this thread on the last couple of pages I think if you need to go down that path. Just remember that the EQ below was just a guess at this stage and pre omnimic tailoring. Hope this helps.

QUOTE PASTED FROM P140

"I have also had the MIC2200 engaged for a bit now and have had some success calibrating the Parametric EQ and feel I'm getting a cleaner sound than I was before. Its a shot in the dark without the right gear but for now I definitely prefer when the EQ is on (see below my settings, let me know if you guys notice anything out of the ordinary).

MIC2200

FRONT PANEL

MIC GAIN/MIC/LINE: Off
LO CUT: On (18Hz or Port Tune)
FREQUENCY: 0.1 On (32Hz started at 45Hz but this is really a guess)
OCTAVE BANDWIDTH: On (1.8 started at around 1.6 also a guess)
LEVEL: On (+4 or+5dB I like the extra punch this gives)
OUTPUT: Set at Zero

REAR PANEL MIC2200 to EP4000

RCA to XLR (From AVR to MIC2200): Hooked up to Channel 1
1st TPS connector (From MIC2200 to EP4000): Hooked up from Output Channel 1 MIC2200 to Input 1 EP4000
2nd TPS connector (from MIC2200 to EP4000): Hooked up from Output Channel 2 MIC2200 to Input 2 EP4000

Archaea Im pretty sure this is correct (rear panel setup) but if you can see anything obvious that shouldn't be I'd appreciate any feedback. Haven't looked at display for MIC2200 whilst in running but enjoy the extra Bass coming through with the level knob slightly increased. I now feel there is a clearer bass signal and more impact after much A/B testing and am loving this bloody thing! I run my Yamaha at around -40dB (moderate listening) to -26dB (loud listening) and the CAP has been well matched as I said earlier to levels of all speakers. May change soon as Im considering adding a Rotel RMB 1075 which Im hoping will improve the detail/clarity of Mains/Centre/Rears when listening at louder volumes (but thats for another thread right......?)
Edited by AJ72 - 5/13/13 at 8:22pm

I only plan on using the hpf and Lin level boost. What is a good setting for the hpf? I think its tuned to 15?

What about the volume / line level?

Mine is set at about 18Hz for the HPF (port tune is around 20Hz for mine). It will just be a guess for your line level but mine was at about +4dB. Do a bit of A/B testing to see what you prefer. Highly recommend Getting the Dayton V2 omnimic. Not as hard as it seems with advice here to help then youll really know where you stand re output.

The analog dial on the HPF knob of the mic2200 is generally accurate on mine. It is labeled frequency low cut and should be set to just about right at the frequency you want. I have mine at 20hz with the Crown XLS-5000. I had it a click or two under with the EP4000 because that amp wasn't powerful enough to bottom out the drivers even with no HPF engaged. The crown has enough power to make the driver lose control below port tune where the ported cabinet is no longer helping resist driver excursion. My line levels are just 0'ed out,(knob on the far right) - but again the Crown doesn't need any help getting loud. The mic2200 can be used for dual parametric EQ when you daisey chain the channels - that's how I'm using it. I'm giving it a bit of a boost at 30hz range and a bit of a boost at 70hz range - but that is tailored for my room and sub position. Your boost or cut frequencies may be completely diffferent. The omnimic is a sound recommendation to make the most of your HPF and parametric EQs.

If you read the last 10 pages of this thread or so you'll definitely see some setup advice for the mic2200.



POSITION OF THE SUBS and LISTENING POSITION MAKES SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!

here is an older test I ran
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1375633/ep4000-vs-inuke-dsp-3000-w-2-jtr-captivators-and-an-omnimic-which-amp-is-better

In that test I had to cut 70hz by about 10dB, I moved the subs to optimal position and now I actually boost a couple db at 70hz to keep a flat frequency response line. My current FR chart is flatter than my original go listed in the thread above - but with only two bands it still isn't as flat as what the Inuke can do with it's 8 bands of parametric EQ. I simply like the extra power in the crown over the Inuke - so that's why I'm still using the mic2200/crown combo. I'd prefer the Inuke DSP 3000 with an omnimic over a EP4000/mic2200/omnimic personally, but you'll need measuring gear to set it up correctly.

That should explain why we can't just throw parametric EQ settings at you and hope it works - you need to tailor the sound to you room and listening position using measuring gear like an omnimic or REW.

I dont plan on using the EQ - Just want to know how high to set the gain to boost the level

leave the mic2200 gain at 0 most likely. instead adjust through your AVR subwoofer trim or LFE trim. Ideally your AVR trim on the subwoofer should be negative rather than positive. I've heard experts say ideally between 0 and -6 for AVR subwoofer trim is your goal. It really shouldn't matter much either way on this particular point.
Edited by Archaea - 5/15/13 at 8:42pm

mines at -2.5. Anything else and my house will fall apart.

my wife and kids were out today and twice I cut my sytem loose -- once this morning before work, and then tonight for a while.

I broke out into a stupid grin this morning listening to dubstep --- it's fantastic that my captivator subs still force me to smile nearly 2 years into ownership.


Then tonight in the breakout session I had an empty cardboard box sitting on the concrete a few feet away and to the side of one of the subs. I'd just unloaded that box from a lot of DVDs I purchased from a person at work who was letting them go for about a buck a piece. When I cranked up the music and the bass was hitting heavy I noticed the box was rotating slowly on the concrete slab (tiled) basement floor. LOL. vibrating a cardboard box on concrete! Truly! There just aren't very many subs that can do that!

Thats awesome! I am now the proud owner of dual Caps! Thats awesome too!

Same here. Still love the cap after 2yrs of owning it. Every time I have the opportunity, I crank the ba-jesus out of it.

Try this if you want to crush some dubstep (0:55 mark is where the awesomeness happens). I told Carp to use it for his next GTG. This ought to just destroy is house. Come to think of it, Popalock's as well. I only have a single Cap and it just is insane...