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post #31 of 98
Depends on the UPS store. It's $5 per package at the Ogdensburg UPS Store.

Mike
post #32 of 98
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Originally Posted by TheSensFan View Post

Well I spoke with a couple of Panny dealers here in Canada and they have stated the price is $3999! Good Lord!

Compare that to the $1999 US... Its a no brainer.

Quebec Acoustic is having a preorder special this week. Way lower than $3999Cadn, including a free replacement bulb. If you factored in "express" shipping (say, 2 days) by courier, the almost non-existence exchange rate (add 5% - 8%), and the free replacement bulb it is pretty close to the US street price.
post #33 of 98
Thread Starter 
Just received my AE4000 from the Projector People. With what I paid in GST/DUTY/Exchange/Delivery I figure I saved $100 in comparison to the current DISCOUNTED price from Richard.

I was impatient and wanted it right away. Projector People were great to work with. But I have also purchased from Richard at Quebec Acoustic and would again! Looking back on it, should I have waited? probably.

But now that it is connected and looking beautiful I am sure I will forget about I only save $100.

Cheers!
post #34 of 98
If you dont mind me asking what did you pay in taxes/duty? I am ordering on Monday from PP and wouldnt mind knowing what the final damage is going to be.

Thanks!
post #35 of 98
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Originally Posted by TheSensFan View Post

Just received my AE4000 from the Projector People. With what I paid in GST/DUTY/Exchange/Delivery I figure I saved $100 in comparison to the current DISCOUNTED price from Richard.

I was impatient and wanted it right away. Projector People were great to work with. But I have also purchased from Richard at Quebec Acoustic and would again! Looking back on it, should I have waited? probably.

But now that it is connected and looking beautiful I am sure I will forget about I only save $100.

Cheers!

Same here, but I look at it slighly different way; I do not need a spare bulb at this point; I will purchase it once I need it; so overall, we saved some money
Wojtek
post #36 of 98
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Originally Posted by mintchris View Post

If you dont mind me asking what did you pay in taxes/duty? I am ordering on Monday from PP and wouldnt mind knowing what the final damage is going to be.

Thanks!

$399.07, duty is 5%
Wojtek
post #37 of 98
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Originally Posted by TheSensFan View Post

Just received my AE4000 from the Projector People. With what I paid in GST/DUTY/Exchange/Delivery I figure I saved $100 in comparison to the current DISCOUNTED price from Richard.

I was impatient and wanted it right away. Projector People were great to work with. But I have also purchased from Richard at Quebec Acoustic and would again! Looking back on it, should I have waited? probably.

But now that it is connected and looking beautiful I am sure I will forget about I only save $100.

Cheers!

Yeah, I almost jumped the gun too but then I will have Canadian warranty (and peace of mind) with the Panny AE4000 from Que. Acoustic's for just a little bit more. I'm one of those who keeps stuffs around longer so I will need the replacement bulb sooner or later.

Three more weeks
post #38 of 98
Thread Starter 
I am the same. I did not need a replacement bulb for my InFocus 4805 and had it close to 5 years.

I have never had to use the warranty on any electronic device I purchased. So that did not sway me in any way. If i do need warranty I just mail it to the US.

If you want exact numbers just PM me.
post #39 of 98
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Originally Posted by VirTERM View Post

$399.07, duty is 5%
Wojtek

I was under the impression that projectors were exempt from duty.
post #40 of 98
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Originally Posted by novasol View Post

I was under the impression that projectors were exempt from duty.

So was I. $400 just seems a bit high but what are ya gonna do!
post #41 of 98
Thread Starter 
I thought they were too, but have been told by a number of sources, they are NOT. The fact that the projector is made in Japan is the big gotcha. As well it seems it depends on how it get tagged at customs.
post #42 of 98
Hmmm, about duty, I had heard from a reliable source (I'm sorry, I can't remember who) that if it's for business (a data/computer projector), it's duty-free. But when it's for pleasure (HT), duty applies. Someone needs to find an online source of the HS Tariff Code-- Hey, my wife says she has the list; I'll post it when I get the info.
post #43 of 98
I puchased a Panasonic 50S1 from the US about four months ago. Cost me $1490 all in, Future Shop wanted $2000 + tax.

I wanted to buy an AE4000, but the price up here is ridiculous and I wanted a warranty with this one... So I bought a 6500UB with the big rebate instead.
post #44 of 98
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Originally Posted by TheSensFan View Post

I thought they were too, but have been told by a number of sources, they are NOT. The fact that the projector is made in Japan is the big gotcha. As well it seems it depends on how it get tagged at customs.

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Originally Posted by Matty View Post

Hmmm, about duty, I had heard from a reliable source (I'm sorry, I can't remember who) that if it's for business (a data/computer projector), it's duty-free. But when it's for pleasure (HT), duty applies. Someone needs to find an online source of the HS Tariff Code-- Hey, my wife says she has the list; I'll post it when I get the info.

Interestingly enough, when I imported an AE500 directly from Japan years ago it was categorized as "computer projector" and was duty free. I did the clearance on my own so I'm pretty sure about that. Same with the AE700 I bought from the States. I guess it is up to the digression of the Border Service officer?

You can look it up online here: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-com.../menu-eng.html
post #45 of 98
My wife picked up a AE4000 from the UPS store in Ogdensburg (free shipping that far from Projector People). I haven't checked the paperwork, but she says she only paid PST+GST on the way back over (no duty).

Having said that, if I'd known about the Canadian pricing / lamp deal from Quebec Acoustics, I would have gone with that, but with Panasonic Canada refusing to acknowledge any requests for information when I was originally looking into getting the projector, I'm not sorry I imported.
post #46 of 98
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SimonJB View Post

My wife picked up a AE4000 from the UPS store in Ogdensburg (free shipping that far from Projector People). I haven't checked the paperwork, but she says she only paid PST+GST on the way back over (no duty).

Thats good! You saved approximately $200 (UPS brokerage = $80 Duty=$120)

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Originally Posted by SimonJB View Post

Having said that, if I'd known about the Canadian pricing / lamp deal from Quebec Acoustics, I would have gone with that, but with Panasonic Canada refusing to acknowledge any requests for information when I was originally looking into getting the projector, I'm not sorry I imported.

Agreed.
post #47 of 98
Just put down the deposit for the AE4000U at Quebec Acoustic, even though the theater room won't be complete for months the price was to good to pass up and being out west I avoid paying PST. I almost pre-ordered from PP but for some reason they didn't reply to an email I sent, glad they didn't now.
post #48 of 98
Quebec Acoustic's price is actually *BETTER* than the "order from the U.S.A" price. The only way to come out ahead by ordering from the U.S. is if you dodge the duty taxes.

PS: By better I mean the Q.A. price is $200 CND more than what it would cost from the USA, but you get a free extra lamp. I'll take the lamp for $200 plus the CND warrenty (+1 year if you buy with VISA, which doesn't work on the U.S.A purchase, so in the end the warrenties are both 2 year, except CND VISA extra warrenty has no limit on bulb time!).

Ted
post #49 of 98
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Originally Posted by tbadiuk View Post

Quebec Acoustic's price is actually *BETTER* than the "order from the U.S.A" price. The only way to come out ahead by ordering from the U.S. is if you dodge the duty taxes.

PS: By better I mean the Q.A. price is $200 CND more than what it would cost from the USA, but you get a free extra lamp. I'll take the lamp for $200 plus the CND warrenty (+1 year if you buy with VISA, which doesn't work on the U.S.A purchase, so in the end the warrenties are both 2 year, except CND VISA extra warrenty has no limit on bulb time!).

Ted

Hmmm:
$1999 USD => $2151.50 CDN
Taxes (GST+PST) => $279.70 CDN
Duty (if you end up paying it) => $107.58 CDN

Total for the lucky one (no duty) => $2431.20 CDN
Total for unlucky one (duty paid) => $2538.77 CDN

Quebec Acoustic Price => $2599.00 CDN
Price with Taxes => $2936.87 CDN

Bottom line is that you either pay $400 or $500 for the bulb and Canadian warranty. This is actually not that bad, but I prefer to have it today and buy my bulb once needed.
Thanks,
Wojtek
post #50 of 98
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Originally Posted by VirTERM View Post

Hmmm:
$1999 USD => $2151.50 CDN
Taxes (GST+PST) => $279.70 CDN
Duty (if you end up paying it) => $107.58 CDN

Total for the lucky one (no duty) => $2431.20 CDN
Total for unlucky one (duty paid) => $2538.77 CDN

Quebec Acoustic Price => $2599.00 CDN
Price with Taxes => $2936.87 CDN

Bottom line is that you either pay $400 or $500 for the bulb and Canadian warranty. This is actually not that bad, but I prefer to have it today and buy my bulb once needed.
Thanks,
Wojtek

Actually, most people will only pay GST on Quebec Acoustic price...unless you are in Quebec. So $2599 plus $129.95 = $2728.95

Also, your exchange rate is very optimistic given the CC compaines poor exchange rate....likely closer to 1.09 or 1.10 at todays rate.

In any case...it is a far better deal for Canada than I would have anticipated based on Panasonic's history.
post #51 of 98
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Originally Posted by Tup View Post

Actually, most people will only pay GST on Quebec Acoustic price...unless you are in Quebec. So $2599 plus $129.95 = $2728.95

Also, your exchange rate is very optimistic given the CC compaines poor exchange rate....likely closer to 1.09 or 1.10 at todays rate.

In any case...it is a far better deal for Canada than I would have anticipated based on Panasonic's history.

Yes, I forgot about the PST..
Wojtek
post #52 of 98
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Originally Posted by Tup View Post

Actually, most people will only pay GST on Quebec Acoustic price...unless you are in Quebec. So $2599 plus $129.95 = $2728.95

Yes, I almost forgot about that... no PST for me
post #53 of 98
I came across the boarder last week. I told them I had a projector and screen. They didn't question it. Had to pay GST and PST only. No Duty on Projectors
post #54 of 98
I have used the UPS store a couple of times and it has worked out great. They have always called me when the package arrives. I do track it as well and know when it's going to be delivered. The price for having something delivered to the UPS store depends on the size and number of packages. I just had 2 large subwoofers delivered there and it cost me $10 per subwoofer to do this. They also charge you a $1 dollar a day per package for every day that it sits there until you pick up. The nice thing about this is you don't get charged a brokerage fee. You never know what that is going to be. I use the Niagara Falls UPS store#2194 on Military Road across from the Outlet Mall.

Drew
post #55 of 98
Thread Starter 
I will so the same next time and use the UPS store. Even though its close to a hour and half drive, thats worth a few hundred.
post #56 of 98
The UPS Store in Ogdensburg charges $5 per package. They say it's $5 per week, but I don't recall ever getting dinged by that when a package sits there longer than a week.

Mike
post #57 of 98
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Originally Posted by neworder59 View Post

You still have to pay duty unless it is Made in Canada, US or Mexico (NAFTA). As for plasma and lcd they're usually made in Mexico that's why it's tax free. AE4000 is made in Japan...

If you use the projector as a computer monitor (with a home theatre computer) then its exempt from duty! How do I know? I imported a CRT projector (made in Japan) from the U.S. a few years ago and had the seller mark "Computer Monitor" on the packaging and then picked the projector up at customs and insisted we go through the regulations and there it was - no duty on computer equipment and accessories! And, yes I do only use it with my computer which has a BD and HD DVD drive.
post #58 of 98
Well, apparently Projector People (and quite possibly other official distributors in US) are not allowed to sell any more Epson or Panasonic projectors to Canadians... I just got off the phone with a lady over at ProjectorPeople.com and she mentioned they've been asked... no, warned by those two manufacturers not to sell to Canadians, as we should look up our local dealers instead.

To which of course I laughed and mentioned the only reason why I'm calling in to order from them and not from a local dealer is because I will be saving about 50% of the total cost... which for a $1,000+ projector is quite a bit of money, if you ask me

Oh well... any comparable Canadian distributors that are not charging an arm and a leg for these?
post #59 of 98
Quebec Acoutstic

Do the arithmetic and you will find that if there are any savings when buying in the States, they will be minimal and you will have a proper Canadian warrantee. When I bought my AE3000 I saved over $100CDN by buying in Canada.

With Quebec Acoustic, you will pay the cost of the projector, plus 5% GST (no PST unless you are in Quebec) and shipping ($15).

Order from the States and you'll have to add up all the following costs:

projector (convert to CDN$ - use the rate your credit card charges)
shipping ("")
taxes (if delivered to a state the company does business in; convert as usual)
PST + GST on CDN$ value

If driving over to pick up, don't forget the costs with bridges/tolls ($3.25CDN each way; Johnstown Bridge), store fees ($5US UPS Store Ogdensburg), and your actual travel costs (gas and time).

If not bringing it over yourself, be prepared for excessive "brokerage" charges from companies like UPS. I would NOT ship across the border using UPS. The post office is a much better way to ship across the border, if you aren't in a hurry.

Mike
post #60 of 98
I been offered an Epson 8500 at slightly less than the U.S. street price of $2,499 - and that's in Canadian Dollars so I'm going to grab it (and yes it comes with a warranty and $200 rebate)! If you look there is some very, very competitive pricing in Canada.
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