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post #2521 of 3014
11/2/11 at 9:43am
LG states in the Service Menu: Warm should be at x=0.313 and y=0.329 for the Warm White Balance, giving us the 6500K. My set values were not in this range, and was giving about 9200K - lots of Blue to make the LG appear Brighter on the Show Room Floor. Great for Newbies. Not so great for Videophiles.
Warm White Balance Gain is from 0 to 255. Warm Cut is 0 to 127. Most RGB Cuts mainly have to be in the 61 to 65 Range - system comes with the cuts at 63 to 64.
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post #2522 of 3014
11/2/11 at 1:48pm
Is there instructions somwhere on how to use the service remote and where the values are that I need to change?
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post #2523 of 3014
11/2/11 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

Is there instructions somwhere on how to use the service remote and where the values are that I need to change?

There are no instructons with the Service Manual - when you get yours, ask any of Forum Members who have one, how to use it.
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post #2524 of 3014
11/2/11 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

There are no instructons with the Service Manual - when you get yours, ask any of Forum Members who have one, how to use it.

I think the blue button turns the space station 45 degrees......

JK...
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post #2525 of 3014
11/2/11 at 4:44pm
hey guys....i maybe jumping back over here. i sold my way overpriced pos sharp "elite". other than going the plasma route which i'm contemplating. the general consensus says that the lhx is better than the 9500 and 5600 correct?
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post #2526 of 3014
11/2/11 at 5:22pm
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

hey guys....i maybe jumping back over here. i sold my way overpriced pos sharp "elite". other than going the plasma route which i'm contemplating. the general consensus says that the lhx is better than the 9500 and 5600 correct?

Speaking as one who owned the LX9500, the banding it not tolerable. It is a true bummer because the black levels and colors are incredible.

Have the LV9500 but would have gone LHX if I did not find this set channel surfing one Sunday.

Were you outside your 30 day period on the Elite?

My guess would be the the LHX beats the LV in black levels as it has more Led's and has no reflection issues. The LV edges it out on off angle viewing and has very high quality 3D. The LV9500 has great blacks but do to the reflective screen they washout a little in daytime like a plasma.

I am starting to lean away from LED toward _VT30 country, each pixel has its own Backlight.
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post #2527 of 3014
11/2/11 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post


There are no instructons with the Service Manual - when you get yours, ask any of Forum Members who have one, how to use it.

OK, so how do I use it and how do I get to the values I want to change?
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post #2528 of 3014
11/2/11 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

OK, so how do I use it and how do I get to the values I want to change?

Pushing the Adj Button brings you to the Service Menu. Go down to White Balance, push Enter Key, Toggle over to Warm and there are the settings.
Want to see what the results will look like, push Adj again. After a few seconds, your video will appear on the right. More adjustment needed, back down to White Balance. When finished, push Exit Button. Code to enter is 0 X 4.
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post #2529 of 3014
11/2/11 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

LG states in the Service Menu: Warm should be at x=0.313 and y=0.329 for the Warm White Balance, giving us the 6500K. My set values were not in this range, and was giving about 9200K - lots of Blue to make the LG appear Brighter on the Show Room Floor. Great for Newbies. Not so great for Videophiles.
Warm White Balance Gain is from 0 to 255. Warm Cut is 0 to 127. Most RGB Cuts mainly have to be in the 61 to 65 Range - system comes with the cuts at 63 to 64.

The operative assumption is that these values have been adjusted at the factory, and that they continue to remain valid through the lifetime of the set. But we all know from real-world experience that these values can be off (due to component drift, LED break-in, LED aging, board replacement (if the original values were not transferred over), etc.)

Do the professional calibrators routinely do a factory tuneup/calibration or do they jump directly to the ISF/CMS UI?

-nony
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post #2530 of 3014
11/3/11 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by nony View Post

The operative assumption is that these values have been adjusted at the factory, and that they continue to remain valid through the lifetime of the set. But we all know from real-world experience that these values can be off (due to component drift, LED break-in, LED aging, board replacement (if the original values were not transferred over), etc.)

Do the professional calibrators routinely do a factory tuneup/calibration or do they jump directly to the ISF/CMS UI?

-nony

The ISF calibrator said, they only go into the White Balance settings if the IRE and CMS settings are going to be too drastic. On my 55LHX, he had the Blue Gain down to 24. Blue cut down to 52 in order to get the correct LG settings for my THX Mode. Needless to say, all my White Balance, and Video Modes were left in a Green State. THX wasn't too bad, but when Colour was turned down to Zero, it was a Green B&W! Switched to Konica's settings. Are the Meter settings correct? No! But I sure like watching the PQ better. Both my wife's 55LHX and the Basement 55LV9500 calibrated sets look great! Unfortunately, I rarely watch those sets.
Currently trying to try out the Chromapure calibration software - they were all gung ho to give me a trial period, and they stated I can use the Standard Chroma5 I purchased from them, but when I queried as to how their software and Meter would fare on the LG 55LHX, I've heard nothing further from them. Will query again about getting the software for the weekend.
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post #2531 of 3014
11/3/11 at 9:14am
How are the current crop of LHX with DSE? My brother is interested in a new set and claims 3D gives him migrains.

I suggested the LHX, he read many reviews stating DSE was very bad. Has LG fixed the issue with the current crop from QVC?
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post #2532 of 3014
11/3/11 at 9:12pm
Warm White Balance Comparison: x=0313 y=0.329 6500K
Meters Tested: Chroma5 Std Profiled i1Pro Chroma5 Enhanced
Red Gain : 158 184 177 183
Green Gain: 192 192 192 192
Blue Gain : 48 57 52 58
Red Cut : 68 68 68 68
Green Cut : 67 67 67 67
Blue Cut : 66 67 67 66

These pertain to my set, and are for comparison only of the different Meters and the differences.
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post #2533 of 3014
11/3/11 at 9:31pm
Does anybody know where QVC is stocking the LHX? I did some snooping and found that it took 16 days to get to Slickman after he ordered it and he's in New Jersey. I'm in Wyoming and everytime something ships from California, I get it relatively fast. My order is "still in process" though.
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post #2534 of 3014
11/3/11 at 10:52pm
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

hey guys....i maybe jumping back over here. i sold my way overpriced pos sharp "elite". other than going the plasma route which i'm contemplating. the general consensus says that the lhx is better than the 9500 and 5600 correct?

I won't know until Chad B reviews a 55LV9500. I believe that the 55LV9500 has performance characteristics on par with the Australian 55LW9500.

Why did you give up on the Elites? (Were you convinced that the initial flaws would/could not be addressed by Sharp support?) Why did you sell your 55LHX? Did your B8500 outperform the LHX? And why didn't you consider the 929?

Let me add that the launch of the 9800 has been a big disappointment in the global marketplace and is not worth consideration if you are looking for high-end quality.

But, if you currently own a non-defective 55LHX, there is absolutely no reason on Earth to replace it. Does it trump the 929/Elite? I wouldn't know.

-nony
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post #2535 of 3014
11/3/11 at 11:55pm
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Warm White Balance Comparison: x=0313 y=0.329 6500K
Meters Tested: Chroma5 Std Profiled i1Pro Chroma5 Enhanced
Red Gain : 158 184 177 183
Green Gain: 192 192 192 192
Blue Gain : 48 57 52 58
Red Cut : 68 68 68 68
Green Cut : 67 67 67 67
Blue Cut : 66 67 67 66

Way off on my set, may work for you but all I got was GREEN.
Have you looked at a movie or grey ramp with any of these settings?
May be perfect on charts but you can't sell it to me.
I want to see what it is suppose to look like in real life.
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post #2536 of 3014
11/4/11 at 4:08am
I'm getting my remote today, woot woot! I'm going to punch in Konica's settings when I get it and see how they are.
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post #2537 of 3014
11/4/11 at 6:56am
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

Way off on my set, may work for you but all I got was GREEN.
Have you looked at a movie or grey ramp with any of these settings?
May be perfect on charts but you can't sell it to me.
I want to see what it is suppose to look like in real life.

What I'm confused / wondering is: the white balance should have been set at the factory, and you would think this value should be a default value, meaning we should not be surprised, and or finding out something's not quite where it should be?

From the sounds of it, are these set's white balance not calibrated correctly from the factory?
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post #2538 of 3014
11/4/11 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by nony View Post

I won't know until Chad B reviews a 55LV9500. I believe that the 55LV9500 has performance characteristics on par with the Australian 55LW9500.

Why did you give up on the Elites? (Were you convinced that the initial flaws would/could not be addressed by Sharp support?) Why did you sell your 55LHX? Did your B8500 outperform the LHX? And why didn't you consider the 929?

Let me add that the launch of the 9800 has been a big disappointment in the global marketplace and is not worth consideration if you are looking for high-end quality.

But, if you currently own a non-defective 55LHX, there is absolutely no reason on Earth to replace it. Does it trump the 929/Elite? I wouldn't know.

-nony

Hey nony, how you doing?

I'm surprised to not see the 55LW7700 around, it was showed before with a matte screen, would have been the most possible match to the LHX, but if I remmeber right, you have posted info regarding the zones were going to be way less than the LHX, suprised that LG's offerings this year have been so lack-luster....

I did some testing with the Sony 929, and it looked good, and I also looked at the new Elite, which also looked good, BUT, I look at everything into this perspective: how much money does it take for me to say the set I have is good enough?

My friends come over all the time and always comment on the LHX's unreal picture quality ( not even perfectly calibrated ) and I say, this set could be had for well less than half or more than the Sony 929, and double or tripple in price for the Elite, there is no perfect set out there, but for the money, and I'm betting on Black Friday Deals will be un'presidented ( they always are ) where this set will be sold at a big time bargan price, an no other set can bet it for mostly that point, cost vs performance....
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post #2539 of 3014
11/4/11 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by videkid View Post

How are the current crop of LHX with DSE? My brother is interested in a new set and claims 3D gives him migrains.

I suggested the LHX, he read many reviews stating DSE was very bad. Has LG fixed the issue with the current crop from QVC?

Slickaman was the most recent buyer, earlier builds seemed better, my set was bought last Dec / Jan, had a panel replacement, it's better, but still present, there really was no fix, some people are sensitive to it, some are not affected so much / or don't see it.

In the end, you have to just accept what you get, as there is no perfect set that exists, some brands show more of this, or more of that, and in the end we end up picking what we can live with the most.....
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post #2540 of 3014
11/4/11 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by TheaterChad View Post

What I'm confused / wondering is: the white balance should have been set at the factory, and you would think this value should be a default value, meaning we should not be surprised, and or finding out something's not quite where it should be?

From the sounds of it, are these set's white balance not calibrated correctly from the factory?

If they were, they were asleep when they did mine. No matter what I did in the Expert modes I had too much RED, Skintones always seemed sunburnt on my set. When an ad came on or an old program, or even some of the new programs would switch to a black and white scene, it had a reddish look and that is why I went to the balance controls to get rid of it.
Black and white programming should be black and white.

May I add these are mass-production TV's we have, how much time does LG spend with trained calibrators to adjust our sets. Unless something is real bad they get the "pass" stamp and the box is closed.
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post #2541 of 3014
11/4/11 at 2:16pm
I tried the settings and they're way too green on my set.
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post #2542 of 3014
11/4/11 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

I tried the settings and they're way too green on my set.

If you are referring to p5brownes latest post...
I agree 100%. he should have noted that these settings were only for testing the various programs and hardware differances he gets and not to be expected to view. He did say they were TESTs but without explanation.
In my opinion they should not have been posted.
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post #2543 of 3014
11/4/11 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

If you are referring to p5brownes latest post...
I agree 100%. he should have noted that these settings were only for testing the various programs and hardware differances he gets and not to be expected to view. He did say they were TESTs but without explanation.
In my opinion they should not have been posted.

I was talking about your settings, but I also punched in his settings as well but I could tell they were even more green. I ended up reverting back to the settings I already had.
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post #2544 of 3014
11/4/11 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

I was talking about your settings, but I also punched in his settings as well but I could tell they were even more green. I ended up reverting back to the settings I already had.

I was unaware you had received your service remote yet.

As said from the beginning, these may or may not work for everyone but if you are having a problem with your set they may help. Are you? Did you set all your ire's and cms to 0 before applying the settings?

You said you tried our settings before, before you even had a service remote.
How did you do that?

What settings came with your set for white balance?
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post #2545 of 3014
11/4/11 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by TheaterChad View Post

Hey nony, how you doing?

I'm surprised to not see the 55LW7700 around, it was showed before with a matte screen, would have been the most possible match to the LHX, but if I remmeber right, you have posted info regarding the zones were going to be way less than the LHX, suprised that LG's offerings this year have been so lack-luster....

I did some testing with the Sony 929, and it looked good, and I also looked at the new Elite, which also looked good, BUT, I look at everything into this perspective: how much money does it take for me to say the set I have is good enough?

My friends come over all the time and always comment on the LHX's unreal picture quality ( not even perfectly calibrated ) and I say, this set could be had for well less than half or more than the Sony 929, and double or tripple in price for the Elite, there is no perfect set out there, but for the money, and I'm betting on Black Friday Deals will be un'presidented ( they always are ) where this set will be sold at a big time bargan price, an no other set can bet it for mostly that point, cost vs performance....

Found this link for you
http://www.powersellernyc.com/Produc...W7700-LED-HDTV
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post #2546 of 3014
11/4/11 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

I was unaware you had received your service remote yet.

As said from the beginning, these may or may not work for everyone but if you are having a problem with your set they may help. Are you? Did you set all your ire's and cms to 0 before applying the settings?

You said you tried our settings before, before you even had a service remote.
How did you do that?

What settings came with your set for white balance?

Before I didn't know I needed the service remote, so I couldn't fully put in all the settings, but I didn't know that at the time. The default settings for my tv are...

RG 192
GG 149
BG 96
RC 64
GC 63
BC 64

For my settings I'm only using a 2 point IRE.
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post #2547 of 3014
11/4/11 at 7:31pm
If you are only using 2 pt ire there isn't any way we would know how they (the settings) would react as most people trying to calibrate their sets prefer the 10 pt.
That does not mean the 2pt are not great for some people. But it does leave the fact that your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. Enjoy your new TV!
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post #2548 of 3014
11/4/11 at 7:36pm
I'm just saying what I'm seeing, the settings are really green, and I can even see it on greyscale images. Maybe on your set they're not green though, every set is different.
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post #2549 of 3014
11/4/11 at 10:08pm
Here's my full settings just in case anyone wants to try them for the hell of it. They're not perfect but it's the best I could get just by eyeballing and using the 2 point IRE. The settings are slightly red on my set, and also I like to use medium gamma, I'd rather sacrifice a little shadow detail for deeper looking colors.

Contrast: 84
Brightness: 52
H Sharp: 60
V Sharp: 50
Colour: 50
Tint: 0
Gamma: Medium
White Balance: Warm
2 Point IRE:
RC 2
GC -2
BC 5
RB 10
GB -10
BB -4

CMS:
Red Colour: -7
Red Tint: -6
Green Colour: 0
Green Tint: 3
Blue Colour: 0
Blue Tint: -4
Yellow Colour: -3
Yellow Tint: 6
Cyan Colour: 0
Cyan Tint: 2
Magenta Color: -2
Magenta Tint: 0

Stock Service Menu Warm White Balance

RG 192
GG 149
BG 96
RC 64
GC 63
BC 64
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post #2550 of 3014
11/5/11 at 12:09am
When you have a chance if you could post your original White Balance settings. TIA
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