THE Official LG "55LHX" Owners Thread - Page 98

W - the panel is V5 and exhibits significanly more crosstalk than the Y panel in 3D (it's also ~$400 cheaper)
Y - These are V6 and are found in most 2011 LCD panels.

-nony

Oct 5, 2012

My 55LHX Calibrations using Calman 5RC2, C6 on TriPod, profiled off NonEn i1Pro

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As per request, my latest: Now Fine Tuned

Gamma Low, White Balance Warm Luminance 156

Service Menu White Balance: Cool/Medium/Warm

RG: 161/179/188
GG: 192/192/192
BG: 149/117/64
RC: 64/64/64
GC: 63/62/62
BC: 64/63/63

BL: 40
CT: 82
BR: 50
HS: 56
VS: 54
CL: 51
Tnt: 0

2 Point Calibration:

Red Contrast (100 IRE): 5
Green Contrast (100 IRE): 0
Blue Contrast (100 IRE): 1
Red Brightness (30 IRE): -4
Green Brightness (30 IRE): -14
Blue Brightness (30 IRE): -25

CMS:
RC: 9
RT: 8
Gc: 0
GT: 2
Bc: 14
Bt: 6
YC: 0
YT: 1
CC: -1
CT: -4
MC: 8
MT: -1

10 Point Calibration:

100: 1/-1/-1
90 : 13/8/-1
80 : 16/6/-4
70 : 13/5/-1
60 : 10/0/-5
50 : 9/1/-8
40 : 4/-2/-8
30 : -2/-8/-12
20 : -1/-6/-8
10 : -2/-5/-6

Will no longer post values - have now gone to Spectracal's Calman 5 with AutoCal, now being used in conjunction with my iScan Duo.
Edited by p5browne - 10/12/12 at 8:02am

What do you mean Green Brightness =14 ( -14 or 14)

Corrected

Anybody stil have the firmware files and instructions for update? I have a 47LH85 and I know you can use the 3.26 firmware for the panel and media box from the LHX55. Orignal links for it on the LH forum have moved to the new LG site that requires login. Thanks for any help.

The LG service site no longer brings up the 55LHX. Any LG updates are now behind Password Protected Service sites. Best to see if anyone near you, can burn the files on a CD or DVD and post them to you.
Edited by p5browne - 10/15/12 at 7:03am

Hello all,

I am looking to buy an extra 55LHX Media Box, for replacement parts, etc. If you have one that you are not using and are interested in selling it, please get in touch with me.

Thanks!
Nick

Most users are probably hanging onto their Media Boxes in case they sell the TV in the Future. (Although, with the fantastic PQ I've now been able to calibrate, plus the added Darbee - it may be a while.) Most owners are now bypassing the Media Box and using their direct to TV from their AVRs, or in several owners' cases, using something like the iScan Duo. Usually meaning the PQ is better without the MB.

I bought a brand new LG an-wl-100 media box for my lv9500 , it will work with the LHX TV. The box does not send 3D but I did not send it back because it was only 25.00 with shipping included.

How do you go about calibrating (and using) your TV WITHOUT the media box. For instance, I tried to connect my AVR directly to the TV (by passing the box), and the TV remote was not working at all and the TV was tuck in HDMI5?

Thanx!

All Inputs go into the AVR. AVR HDMI Out to 55LHX HDMI 5 Input.
The Remote should still work with no problems, with or without the MB. The first time you turn the LHX on, you may have to use the Input select to go to HDMI 5.
Now you only have to contend with 1 Input.
You can calibrate both the 2 and 10 Point using the Inner Screens if you're lacking a Patterm Source. For CMS, you have to have a Colour Pattern Source.
Service Menu White Balance, you can either do it the Serial Cable way, purchase a Service Remote, or get the Control Codes for your current Universal Remote.

http://www.newremotecontrol.com/lg/catalog_item.php?catnum=105-201M
Edited by p5browne - 10/18/12 at 4:55pm

My service remote is finally on the way after putting it off for the last 6 months. I will need major help as my white balance is trashed. More pinkish now than ever. Also ordered Disney WOW disc to see if anything else is screwed up.

Service Menu White Balance Specs:
Cool: x=0.269, y=0.273 (Some earlier LG sets x=0.276, y=0.283, not the 55LHX, more like the 55LH90)
Medium: x=0.285, y=0.293
Warm: x=0.313, y=0.329
One RGB Gain value has to be 192. No value above 192.
Have found on my sets, Green on all 3 levels at 192 does the trick. Then adjust the Red and Blue to fall in line to spec. RGB Cuts - wasn't able to calibrate until Calman 5 came out. These are a little more tricky!
Be prepared to go back and forth between the 3 levels several times, plus up and down between RGB Gains and Cuts since they all effect each other.
Also be surprised on your inital readings, LGs settings are not even close to the above required specs!

Service Remote: ADJ Button to Enter, ADJ Button to return to the inital Menu, Exit to go back to TV's system.
DO NOT do any White Balance calibration settings until you've reset all IRE's, CMS, and, 2 and 10 Point settings to Zeroes!
Plus set up your Contrast, Brightness, Tint and Colour settings. (Sharpness and Backlighting I usually do after all calibrating is done.)

When White balance is done, calibrate the 2 Point, then 10, then back to 2 then 10 again. Now CMS. (Remember to switch back to 10 Point when finished, elsewise you're final readings won't look right.)
Edited by p5browne - 10/20/12 at 7:18am

I don't know jack squat about calibrating and have no equipment whatsoever.

Then try either my White Balance Settings, or the White Balance settings from my wife's 55LHX from a few postings back and see if they help. Plus put Green on 192 on Cool, Medium and Warm anyways. Either will probably give better results then what you're getting now. Blue was setup way too high from the factory, but as these units age, Blue is becoming less a factor, versus Red.
Do not mess with any other settings while in the Service Menu.

Thanks, it should be here on Monday.

Don't know anyone that calibrates?
The 55LHX now calibrated with the new Calman 5, and Spectracal C6 (On tripod) profiled off the i1Pro, is just amazing! The Blacks are outstanding, the colours bold, and now with the Darbee, a lot clearer. The closest we've come to this type of PQ was the 55LV9500 that was on special on HSN last year. More POP, but less Blacks. Darbee gives the 55LHX some of that POP that the 55LV9500 has.
Spectracal also rents out meters and software, if you're not wanting to tie monies up into calibration equipment.

Well, it definitely looks like i am screwed. It looks better, don't get me wrong, but my television was born with a pink tint in the lower right hand section of the display. If you were to section the tv into 3 equal thirds, the last 3rd on the lower right is pink. I did everything to the white balance to compensate. I don't even know if a real calibration would help. I had to go rg 202, gg 216, and bg 112. Their high, i know, but there was no other way to get the pink out. And its still not out all the way. But it def. looks more white.

The 3 Pixel Washes this Program has, does wonders for panels. The Blu-ray Version is on sale right now, and I believe shipping is included.

http://www.pixelprotector.com/

Always Pixel Wash before calibrationing, if it's been awhile since the last time. Was having problems with Red on one LG, fixed the problem.
If you have the Disney WOW Blu-ray, they have a, not quite as good, single wash called Flicker.

Thanks browne, i'm going to try the WOW since I just bought it and I need to get my money back out of it. I will tell you though, after changing the white balance and then using the WOW to dial in the pic, it looks life-like. More 3-D ish.

Could you do me a favour? Do the WOW Basic Contrast and Brightness, then Advanced Contrast and Brightness and let me know if you have differences between the two.
Easy to do, if you go into Expert, where Basic is the top selections, and Advanced lower down. From my testing, Basic results were closer to my Spears and Munsil, and the AVS 709 DVD results.

I did the advanced last night. Right now i'm at work. I'll probably screw around with it again on Thursday or Friday.

First of all - big thanks to you p5browne for your advice (the service remote, etc....). Now my grayscale is now nicely calibrated on my TV.

For those interested, here's what I did (warm mode only) - I used a iDisplay LT with HCFR:

1/ Adjusted R/G/B gains in service mode to reach 6500K (and the corresponding xy point)
2/ Adjusted Contrast so that 100% white is around 130 Lum.
3/ Adjusted Brightness using the "black bars" basic calibration screen - I was also looking for the value where you could see a real "bump" in brightness in the dark background area and that was 1 or 2 over my cut-off point as well.
4/ Did the 2-point calibration. I used the Green value to adjust my gamma (so that the Y matched was HCFR was referring as gammaY, given that my 100% white was around Y=130), then equalized the Red and Blue to reach white balance (6500K as above). You may have to iterate if the Y changes again as you touch R and B. You want your Y value nailed.
5/ Did the same with 10-point, using also the green value for gamma and then adjusting Red / Blue
6/ Used a flashing primary color "tint / color" screen, along with the "color filter" option on the TV to check color and tint for R / G and B. They were dead on at 0 (R/G/B/Y/C/M for Tint and Color at 0)

Tv is well calibrated: white balance is spot on within 2%, and gamma is almost perfect.

I still have a question though:

===> How do I calibrate my colors and tints? p5browne, I see that you have changed tints and colors for ALL colors, but in my case, it did not seem to do much. Also, I did not find a way to change the Hue of the colors. My green is off hue and the point on the color triangle (CIE) was not moving at all. Also my red Y is off as well (it is not 22% of white but more around 18%)

Again, thanks a lot for your help. You've been great!

I cheat! (Not anymore!)
Leave all my CMS values at 0
AutoCal with Calman 5 and my iScan Duo, then fine tune with LGs CMS.

I assume you used the LG specs for White Balance from Posting #2923? Then went back and forth between the values to fine tune differences created when calibrating the other settings? (Cool, Medium and Warm, plus RGB Gains and Cuts)

Now, if you use the WOW Advanced Setup for Contrast, you're going to find that the Clipping Pattern on the S&M Blu-ray will give a Fail to that setting value. (Solid Colours, no Internal Boxes showing.) In contrast, the S&M Contrast Value, will give a Pass on the Clipping Pattern. (Box Patterns inside Box Patterns can now be seen.)

Now Manual Calibrate Grayscale and CMS, then do AutoCal 125 3D LUT on a Radiance XE.
Edited by p5browne - 12/21/12 at 1:54pm

Hey browne, what are your settings on your Oppo? I just got the 103 and I just don't know if I should turn off the processing or keep it on. I just don't see much of a difference. Maybe i'm blind, but I figured i'd ask you since you are the resident tweaker around here. I have everything(PS3, Roku, Directv) hooked into my Denon and the Denon is hooked into the Oppo and the Oppo to the tv to get the benefits of the super duper processing. I'm going to throw a little more at it tonight to see if I can see any differences between it and the PS3.

Don't have a 103, just the 93. Best check the 103 Forum.

I knew that, but I figured there wasn't much of a difference between the processors, which there isn't. I just wanted to know if you see a difference with your settings vs another player that you have or used to have.I was just thinking that maybe the processor of the LHX is so good, that I wouldn't see much of a difference between my players.

I use the 93 and Sony BDP-S790 alternatively, especially when I get some Blu-rays that won't play on one player (ie: the latest Home Blu-ray - OK on OPPO, but not on Sony. The old Home Blu-ray worked on both. Other Blu-rays the other way around.) Currently got back to the Canadian supplier who's trying to sell me the 103, as to his trade in policy.. Don't know whether the 93 and 103 have the same Menu system - a question to pose on the 103 Forum, where someone has both. (Don't have a favorite between the 2, both excellent. There is less hand shaking problems with the Sony and my iScan Duo.) Also tried out the 3D Now on the 55LHX and when working, not too bad, but I just can't get into the 3D - give me an excellent 2D, and on the 55LHX it almost looks 3D anyways, without the glasses!
Edited by p5browne - 11/9/12 at 4:47pm

I checked out 3D Now's websit, how is the 3D? Is it legitimate?

It's just OK - but definitely not worth the money - looks easy in their film clips, but it isn't. Didn't like our ExpressVU 3D, Dishnet, 3D in and out and wouldn't stabilize. Put it away in a box to a rainy day when I'm really bored! Darbee, for the money, was well worth it. Finally gives that crispness the 55LHX always seemed to be somewhat lacking.

Newer versions of Calman 5 and ChromaPure, are turning this TV into a real Gem!
Always felt that the 55LHX had a great PQ in it, just had to wait until the Software got caught up to bring it out, and the Software just keeps getting Better! So does the PQ!

For Christmas, got my 55LHX a Lumagen Radiance XE re a Black Friday Special!

Unbelieveable how good this TV looks now with the Lumagen 125 Point Calibration! Darbee inline adds just enough punch to make this TV now look amazing!
Edited by p5browne - 12/9/12 at 8:13am