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post #121 of 9954
10/22/09 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Gah! What am I going to do with four 18's then?!?!


Call MKTheater. Then he can have 12 Sonotubes
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post #122 of 9954
10/22/09 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Danley View Post

Mike has taken a measurement at the shop this morning which I thought would be interesting to post.
Keep in mind this is a big room (like 80 feet deep , 20 foot ceiling etc if I remember).

Here is a TH-50 and DTS10 measured in the demo area of the shop IE: same room, same drive Voltage, same distance etc.
This was with a different measurement system than before (EASRA with an Earthworks mic and pre) so the graphs look a little different.

In any case, it should give somewhat of an idea what the difference is sound may be like between them.
It would appear that in the 11 Hz to 20 odd Hz range, the DTS10 produces about 15 to 20 dB more sound (20dB being 100 times more).
Mikes comment was “you can hear that too” haha.

WOW Tom!
It is truly incredible The response curve is really smooth. This is without and DSP or eq, right? Is this at 10m or 1m?
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post #123 of 9954
10/22/09 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

Call MKTheater. Then he can have 12 Sonotubes



I don't think I have what it takes to let these go.

Even with the extension that the DTS-10's will have they still may require a SSF below 10hz. The sealed 18's wouldn't. I think two of these and two dual opposed sealed subs sounds like a decent mix.
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post #124 of 9954
10/22/09 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

I don't think I have what it takes to let these go.

Even with the extension that the DTS-10's will have they still may require a SSF below 10hz. The sealed 18's wouldn't. I think two of these and two dual opposed sealed subs sounds like a decent mix.

Nice! I'm wondering if I were to use four of these co-located, they would be operating at pretty low levels even at reference. Would that mean I wouldn't need any SSF? Especially if they're being crossed over at around 60-70hz. Just wondering...
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post #125 of 9954
10/22/09 at 1:59pm
I would think so. I run my 18's (also tuned at 11hz) with no SSF at all. I treat them with respect though so I guess if I really pushed it I could get into trouble. Never happen ever though.

Whoa....four DTS-10's.
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post #126 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Gah! What am I going to do with four 18's then?!?!


Same thing as me I guess...

I'm at the point of having to seriously consider selling off some subs. I know I'll end up with 2 of these on top of already having too much stuff... Running out of systems to cram stuff into...
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post #127 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:05pm
Thanks. Imagine reference levels with as much distortion as a loud speaker. That's the goal
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post #128 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

I would think so. I run my 18's (also tuned at 11hz) with no SSF at all. I treat them with respect though so I guess if I really pushed it I could get into trouble. Never happen ever though.

I am the same way with mine. Normal listening for me peaks at maybe 100 db that way I know I won't run over excursion at any frequency. Will only push mine harder if I know the movie won't dip to below my tuning. I will crank some live concerts though!!
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post #129 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:21pm
So you guys don't crank movies like WOTW and U-571? Looks like things will change when you park one or two of these bad boys in your room.
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post #130 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:26pm
Heh! With two 18's in an LLT enclosure it takes effort not to "crank it".

I do express caution with certain movies, Wotw being one of the major offenders.
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post #131 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:27pm
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When I say 100 db that's when the wife is at home. When she is out I hit 120 db peaks with concerts but only on occasionally. Wotw is very demanding on my system. Lightning strikes and pods emerge scenes I turn it down but the laser scene gets cranked.
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post #132 of 9954
10/22/09 at 2:28pm
Yeah, I always watch the volume carefully during the lightning strike scene. After that I turn em' back up.
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post #133 of 9954
10/22/09 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by Ivan Beaver View Post

That would work fine. There are a fair number of DTS20 users who have done the same type of thing-put it in another room or beneth the floor with just the small exit into the room.

My biggest concern with putting it in the attic is keeping all the "other stuff" from vibrating and making all sorts of noise.

You WILL move some stuff with this sub.

What do you mean I will move stuff with this sub? There is nothing in the attic
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post #134 of 9954
10/22/09 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Mathelo View Post

What do you mean I will move stuff with this sub? There is nothing in the attic

Beams, joists... you know, nothing important
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post #135 of 9954
10/22/09 at 3:49pm
This is some cool stuff right here.

So about when will one of our guys (Brandon or Ricci) have one set up and running?

This form factor makes "big" a lot easier to deal with.
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post #136 of 9954
10/22/09 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by Mathelo View Post

What do you mean I will move stuff with this sub? There is nothing in the attic

Yes you will move stuff with this sub. At my subwoofer meet we had 18" subs with several thousand watts going to a couple and nothing moved with them. Playing the same stuff through the th50 knocked stuff off my walls. The dts-10 will go lower so an even greater chance that will happen.
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post #137 of 9954
10/22/09 at 4:12pm
This sounds fantastic but I have a couple questions about it. First is placement. I know this is meant to be placed behind an at screen and up against a wall, but could it be placed on the floor(to where it's 16" tall) and used as a platform for an entertainment center instead? Would this not be possible because of the port location and/or would we have to worry about vibrations in our equipment? Also, I may have missed it but roughly when is this expected to be available to the general public? 1st, 2nd quarter or even further out? Thanks guys.
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post #138 of 9954
10/22/09 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

Nice! I'm wondering if I were to use four of these co-located, they would be operating at pretty low levels even at reference. Would that mean I wouldn't need any SSF? Especially if they're being crossed over at around 60-70hz. Just wondering...

With output much like the TH50, I can't imagine a home HT large enough that it would need four of these.
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post #139 of 9954
10/22/09 at 4:29pm
Headroom.
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post #140 of 9954
10/22/09 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Headroom.

And then some

The room will be around 7000-8000 cubic ft.
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post #141 of 9954
10/22/09 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by Tack View Post

This is some cool stuff right here.

So about when will one of our guys (Brandon or Ricci) have one set up and running?

This form factor makes "big" a lot easier to deal with.

That could take a minute. We're both very busy and it'll still be some days before we get the kits. Then we'll have to build the suckers. I'll do my best to build it as quick as possible once I get it, but that may take a week or 2 to get it all of the way done. Durn life always getting in the way and stuff!
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post #142 of 9954
10/22/09 at 5:32pm
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Agreed about being busy. I will try my best to get it built very soon after receiving it, but with lots of work and kids it could be a few days for me too. Believe me, I will try to shift around as much as possible to get it done because I want to hear this.
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post #143 of 9954
10/22/09 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

Beams, joists... you know, nothing important

you're joking right?
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post #144 of 9954
10/22/09 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by Ricci View Post

That could take a minute. We're both very busy and it'll still be some days before we get the kits. Then we'll have to build the suckers. I'll do my best to build it as quick as possible once I get it, but that may take a week or 2 to get it all of the way done. Durn life always getting in the way and stuff!

Thats sooner than I thought. Although if your 1 or 2 weeks are anything like mine, I'll see you in a couple months.

These are very exciting. It could change a lot of things around here for sure. Thanks to everyone for your efforts.
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post #145 of 9954
10/22/09 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by Mathelo View Post

you're joking right?

Only on Thursdays
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post #146 of 9954
10/22/09 at 6:16pm
Mike, Ivan,

When can you let us know the price for the assembled version (for my brother), and when will they be available?
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post #147 of 9954
10/22/09 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

And then some

The room will be around 7000-8000 cubic ft.

Your 8,000CF room had better be well built if you are going to place four DTS10's in it. I heard a TH50 in a 4,000CF room and I am not sure that the room would hold up to repeated use of the TH50 at high output.
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post #148 of 9954
10/22/09 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by Mathelo View Post

you're joking right?

No, that is exactly what he meant.
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post #149 of 9954
10/22/09 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by mjg100 View Post

Your 8,000CF room had better be well built if you are going to place four DTS10's in it. I heard a TH50 in a 4,000CF room and I am not sure that the room would hold up to repeated use of the TH50 at high output.

4 concrete walls and polished concrete floors above on the main level. I'm using a lot of concrete in the house for cost, energy efficiency and environmental reasons. Also helps that it's great for sound proofing.
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post #150 of 9954
10/22/09 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

4 concrete walls and polished concrete floors above on the main level. I'm using a lot of concrete in the house for cost, energy efficiency and environmental reasons. Also helps that it's great for sound proofing.

Are you using ICF (insulated concrete form)? If so that is a good system. Lots of mass and insulation. Good at containing sound also. Should make for a good room. Be sure and start a thread if you have not already.
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