Danley DTS-10 "Super Spud" DIY kit - Page 2

90 dB/1 W/1 m at 11 Hz - that's amazing, Tom!

According to WinISD, the best I could do with a Mael-18 or TD18 in the same size vented box and any number of drivers is 84 dB.

Im really hoping the schematics are available as an option. Many here want to try and build one because that is the fun of DIY. I know it would be tough but that is actually the fun of doing DIY!

Please consider selling the instructions/drivers alone

I know I wont buy the kit if it includes the wood because the shipping costs won't make sense to me. Although its only 5 hours to Atlanta....ROAD TRIP!!!

I'm not familiar with DIY, so don't laugh, but what is a "dado"? Is it a form of sealer? What is it made of?

It's a type of wood joinery

http://www6.district125.k12.il.us/te...oodJoints.html

Thanks Fatawan. So you wouldn't have to use any sealer(glue or something similar) with the kit? It would just be a matter of screwing it together and it will be properly sealed?

No, you still have to glue it to seal it airtight, but the way it sounds, you would simply have to apply glue to the joints and screw it together.

Ok. That's what I thought. Thanks for the info Fatawan.

A TH-50 that goes lower? Its the perfect product! Now if it has the output of TWO TH-50s AND goes LOWER

Curiously, does it actually sacrifice any musical performance or does it match the TH-50 toe to toe? Maybe even best it?


And that is all I needed to know! Thanks for looking after the non-DIY crowd too! And with a 16" depth its just what the doctor ordered!

Lets see the final graph! *drools*

+1. I'm also anxious to see pics of the finished product.

Here is a not so good photo of the cabinet and "a kit".

Definately salivating at the sidelines here...

That's beautiful

If you're using it behind a screen,would it be better to lay it down or stand it up, or is it just room dependent?

It really doesn't matter. Where else are you going to get this type of performance much less in a cabinet that only comes off the wall 15 inches?
Just for grins I'm going to take the DTS10 home and do comparison measurements in my home theater that features SH50/TH50 stereo pairs. I'll post the measurements just as quickly as I can.

God Bless,

Mike Hedden
Danley Sound Labs, Inc.

You are the man! I can't wait for your comparison between the TH 50 and the DTS 10.

penn ,
Looks like I need to ride with you to Atlanta to pick our kits up to avoid shipping charges.
I am about 3.5 hours away.

I don't blame Tom for keeping control over the cabinet shape since it's so complicated. He's laying his reputation on the line here and, if some DIYer mucks up the cabinet and spreads it all over the internet that Tom's design sucks, that's not good for Tom. Shipping shouldn't be all that bad if you go with a freight company vs. UPS or Fedex who specialize in small stuff.

I was looking at the other DSL offerings and comparing the sensitivities and overall FR. This is not as naturally flat as some of the other cabs, but it apparently has higher general sensitivity than the TH50 and some of the other cabs and the extension is obviously greater. Good signs both. I can't wait to get crackin on one.

I'm anxious to see how it performs in room to other of your subs ricci. Next, I want to see how much it costs.

I wanted to say that too, WOW!

But keep in mind that Z = 2 ohms thereabouts there.
So its not 90.

Nevertheless, its still wow. Something that's 700L tuned to 11Hz to keep up with it would be at least a Mal-X 21 with dual 21" PRs 38mm. Mal-X 21 has 2X more power, +3dB there. That's the infra - at high freqs the Danley will have a home run.

The dropping response tracks most large rooms room gain. No wasted potential here. For the other pro-models its outdoor venues so no such advantage.

If its 2k it would be an absolutely steal - a single (affordable) RMX2450 would be most at home with dual 4 ohms and at least 600Wpc on tap. Low amp $$$....so why are we complaining about shipping with this level of overall value? I'd gladly pay usd600-800 of shipping to try it here!

Does that mean you could put the other subs like the TH-50/221 in any orientation and it wouldn't make a difference? Like say making the 221 stand up against a wall?

In the case of the TH221 there is only one exit option so it has to be laid on its side. The DTS20, THSPUD,TH212, TH115, TH112, and TH28 all give you flexible exit options. A very strong case for Danley is the fact that we give more sub options regarding exits, low frequency extension, and extreme high sensitivity than any other manufacturer I can think of.

Thanks

Mike Hedden
Danley Sound Labs, Inc.

If the DTS10 is turned on it's end so that it is 48" wide, 16" deep and 60" tall, how high off the ground is the top of the exit port. I only have 15" of space under my screen masking system. I would have to turn it onto it's side because the only way I could fit it behind my screen is to cut out the wall behind my screen. Able to do this because I have a 60" wide, 36" deep chase behind my front wall.

Another placement question that might apply for some---can you cut a hole in a wall and have the exit port firing through the opening? Does that change the effective length of the horn?

I have never read were DIYers trash a solid design at all, I know people are too smart to fall for that, we all know people can screw up any design. I also doubt Tom's rep is on the line at all He is pretty well in the Audio Hall of Fame

I do fully understand why he won't sell the plans. Im just lobbying for them

The full kit (you can buy just the wood) including loudspeakers, should come in well under 1K.

Regarding impedance-you have to remember it is a complex number and is different at different freq.

Therefore a GRAPH is the only true way to determine what the actual impedance load is. It is included here.

As you can tell over most of the intended passband, the impedance is greater than 4 ohms. The minimums are just below 3 in a few areas.

Therefore this cabinet could easily be driven with most modern amplifiers.

The power rating will probably be around 1,000 watts continuous and 2K peaks.

WHOA!! Are you saying that the whole kit, with drivers, amplifier and delivery, should cost less than $2500?

two behind your screen would be INCREDIBLE!!!!!!