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post #3031 of 3092
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Originally Posted by Draden1 View Post

Just watched Oblivion......awesome audio on all counts. The bass when he falls from the cable at the beginning is worth seeing the movie. Heavy use of lfe throughout so if that's your thing, you'll be into this. Play it loud!

I have been wanting to check this movie out! I have to wait for it to come out on Redbox as we have no other form of video rental here in Minneapolis. Do the redbox movies have lower audio quality?

I definitely want to check out!

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post #3032 of 3092
I can say Oblivion was very well balanced!

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post #3033 of 3092
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Originally Posted by DrMichael View Post

[B]OZ: The Great and Powerful - DTS HD-MA - reference[/B] The overall movie was pretty bad in my opinion. The sound quality on the other hand was impressive. There are many demo worthy scenes throughout the movie but they are short lived. The LFE was present and plentiful in the appropriate scenes and well balanced. As an audio showcase I recommend it but as a movie I do not!


Agreed! Audio presentation was at minimum Tier 0, just shy of Reference!

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post #3034 of 3092
Star Trek Edge of Darkness (Dolby True HD 7.1) - REFERENCE
This is the best sounding track I have heard on my system. Except for one word the dialogue was crystal clear. The low end bass was present in the correct situations and never was boomy or over done. The rears were present throughout. For those caring about pq it was also the best picture I have seen on bd!!!! I can't recommend this disc more! All reference material here.
post #3035 of 3092
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Originally Posted by DrMichael View Post

Star Trek Edge of Darkness (Dolby True HD 7.1) - REFERENCE
This is the best sounding track I have heard on my system. Except for one word the dialogue was crystal clear. The low end bass was present in the correct situations and never was boomy or over done. The rears were present throughout. For those caring about pq it was also the best picture I have seen on bd!!!! I can't recommend this disc more! All reference material here.


It's Star Trek Into Darkness...

And I disagree - several owners have found the audio to be shrill and fatiguing, and there are examples of digitally clipped audio encoded in the track. Bass was unimpressive and there was little mid range punch.

Now there are apparently several versions of STID released - mine was purchased on Amazon. Perhaps only certain pressings have the issue. But my copy cannot be played near reference, and the sound is rather compressed with limited dynamic range.
post #3036 of 3092
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

It's Star Trek Into Darkness...

And I disagree - several owners have found the audio to be shrill and fatiguing, and there are examples of digitally clipped audio encoded in the track. Bass was unimpressive and there was little mid range punch.

Now there are apparently several versions of STID released - mine was purchased on Amazon. Perhaps only certain pressings have the issue. But my copy cannot be played near reference, and the sound is rather compressed with limited dynamic range.[/quote]

Sorry......that was written after a few glasses of wine! I had no issue with dropout or anything like that. I got my 3d version (2d review) from best buy. I didn't play at reference but pretty damn loud. I was extremely impressed with it
post #3037 of 3092
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Originally Posted by DrMichael View Post

Sorry......that was written after a few glasses of wine! I had no issue with dropout or anything like that. I got my 3d version (2d review) from best buy. I didn't play at reference but pretty damn loud. I was extremely impressed with it

There are no dropouts - its digital clipping encoded in the audio at various points, among the other issues. Really pretty poor for a 2013 release.
post #3038 of 3092
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

I guess I have the reissue then because my DTS version is a LOT stronger in LFE than my DD version. .
The DD was the correct version, and the corrected DTS version was simply mimicking that.It has been demonstrated by measurements so any discrepancy will lie with your set up.
post #3039 of 3092
This tread had been very useful. Seems like lost interests in Audio. Any update yet? Thanks.
post #3040 of 3092
Wish this was kept up like the video thread frown.gif
post #3041 of 3092
I also wish this thread was kept up to date like the PQ one...that being said I watched Pacific Rim last night...wow...reference audio...great sound placement, bass, surround activity...demo disc
post #3042 of 3092
Super Man, Man Of Steel sound track is hotter than hell. It had to be turned up at least 6db. I usually set my receiver on 68 (-12) and it blew me out of the room. I had to turn it down to 62 so I wouldn't go deaf. The sound track has drums that overwhelmed the dialogue. There are awesome LFE demos and I enjoyed the sound track, I just thought it is interesting how different movies are mixed.
post #3043 of 3092
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Super Man, Man Of Steel sound track is hotter than hell. It had to be turned up at least 6db. I usually set my receiver on 68 (-12) and it blew me out of the room. I had to turn it down to 62 so I wouldn't go deaf. The sound track has drums that overwhelmed the dialogue. There are awesome LFE demos and I enjoyed the sound track, I just thought it is interesting how different movies are mixed.


It sounds compressed to my ears. Loud but not in a good way. It appears to be a victim of the dynamic wars. Not quite as severe as TDKR though. That was one unbearable soundtrack:mad:
post #3044 of 3092
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Originally Posted by g-man5.1 View Post

It sounds compressed to my ears. Loud but not in a good way. It appears to be a victim of the dynamic wars. Not quite as severe as TDKR though. That was one unbearable soundtrack:mad:
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Originally Posted by sojodave View Post

Super Man, Man Of Steel sound track is hotter than hell. It had to be turned up at least 6db. I usually set my receiver on 68 (-12) and it blew me out of the room. I had to turn it down to 62 so I wouldn't go deaf. The sound track has drums that overwhelmed the dialogue. There are awesome LFE demos and I enjoyed the sound track, I just thought it is interesting how different movies are mixed.



Interesting to hear multiple people say that about Man of Steel, I haven't seen it yet but plan to soon and will post back my impressions. The audio for it was reviewed on this site at 100 so I'm excited to give it a go.
post #3045 of 3092
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Interesting to hear multiple people say that about Man of Steel, I haven't seen it yet but plan to soon and will post back my impressions. The audio for it was reviewed on this site at 100 so I'm excited to give it a go.

I thought there were areas of reference material but most of the action scenes sounded compressed to me. I actually looked at my settings to make sure dynamic compression was off mad.gif
post #3046 of 3092
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Originally Posted by DrMichael View Post

I thought there were areas of reference material but most of the action scenes sounded compressed to me. I actually looked at my settings to make sure dynamic compression was off mad.gif
I enjoyed the audio, but personally found the SPL seemed to increase throughout the movie to the point by the final act I had to grab the remote and turn it down a bit to save the ears
post #3047 of 3092
I found the mix to be obnoxious...it wasnt an enjoyable soundtrack at all
post #3048 of 3092
My only complaints were with the low end which had spotty execution at times (quite a few moments in that opening scene) and lacking extension. Otherwise, I thought the track was excellent.
post #3049 of 3092
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

It's Star Trek Into Darkness...

And I disagree - several owners have found the audio to be shrill and fatiguing, and there are examples of digitally clipped audio encoded in the track. Bass was unimpressive and there was little mid range punch.

Now there are apparently several versions of STID released - mine was purchased on Amazon. Perhaps only certain pressings have the issue. But my copy cannot be played near reference, and the sound is rather compressed with limited dynamic range.

I agree. Into Darkness sounded great, but I wasn't wowed by it the same way I was by the 2009 film.
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

I also wish this thread was kept up to date like the PQ one...that being said I watched Pacific Rim last night...wow...reference audio...great sound placement, bass, surround activity...demo disc

Pacific Rim sounded pretty amazing. The next day, my neighbor asked what I had been watching. wink.gif
Edited by Sheriff Woody - 11/30/13 at 3:42pm
post #3050 of 3092
Finally watched Man of Steel, loud is the way I'd describe it. Maybe it was the fact the movie was just meh, but I am much more partial to other soundtracks like Kill Bill Vol 1 and Jurassic Park. So I tend to agree with a lot of others in here about Man of Steel.
post #3051 of 3092
Thread Starter 
Hey everyone, it sure has been a very busy year for me. I've been all over the world for work, which has unfortunately meant that time spent enjoying my favorite hobby has dwindled significantly. I've seen far more recent releases on airplane monitors than I care to admit. redface.gif

I'm sorry that the thread has not been updated in a very long time. I guess I'm a little surprised that not a single person was beating down my door with PMs asking about it, but maybe you guys are just too polite for that sort of thing.

Let me go back to when I last updated the thread and work on bringing it up to date. I owe that much to you guys at least!
post #3052 of 3092
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Originally Posted by Bryan Beckman View Post

Hey everyone, it sure has been a very busy year for me. I've been all over the world for work, which has unfortunately meant that time spent enjoying my favorite hobby has dwindled significantly. I've seen far more recent releases on airplane monitors than I care to admit. redface.gif

I'm sorry that the thread has not been updated in a very long time. I guess I'm a little surprised that not a single person was beating down my door with PMs asking about it, but maybe you guys are just too polite for that sort of thing.

Let me go back to when I last updated the thread and work on bringing it up to date. I owe that much to you guys at least!

Don't feel bad Bryan as this thread is basically dead unfortunately (nothing to do with you not updating). Ever since the AVS switchover, participation here died. Just this page alone has almost 4 months of posts if that tells you anything. frown.gif
post #3053 of 3092
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Don't feel bad Bryan as this thread is basically dead unfortunately (nothing to do with you not updating). Ever since the AVS switchover, participation here died. Just this page alone has almost 4 months of posts if that tells you anything. frown.gif

It hasn't seemed to affect the OPPO threads! eek.gif

I can't help but feel that part of the issue is people won't post because the OP hasn't been updated in such a long time. It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg scenario, to be sure.
post #3054 of 3092
Pacific Rim had a mighty impressive audio experience. The Conjuring was another one from recent releases. I think Man of Steel's audio design was meant to induce headaches.tongue.gif
post #3055 of 3092
Dead in Tombstone has some incredible audio which might be the sleeper sound hit of the year.
post #3056 of 3092
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Dead in Tombstone has some incredible audio which might be the sleeper sound hit of the year.

Hmm!

Thanks wink.gif
post #3057 of 3092
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Hmm!

Thanks wink.gif

Report back after you check it out. smile.gif
post #3058 of 3092
Thread Starter 
Turbo (DTS-HD MA 7.1) - Tier 0

I normally would not have sought this one out, but I had a Redbox code and wanted to spend a movie night with the kids. I was also looking for an excuse to run my new sub: a ULS-15, replacing a tried-and-true Outlaw LFM-1 Plus.

This is a really great track, one of those that you just want to keep turning the volume up on. There are a ton of great bass tunes and a lot of excellent LFE moments that dig deep, especially in the final big race.

During the closing credits I noticed Andy Nelson's name on the mix and smiled. I'm a big fan of his work: his mixes for Kung Fu Panda, Star Trek, and Thor are among my favorites. This one isn't quite up there with them, but it surprised me in a very good way, especially considering what kind of movie this is. It would have been so very easy to "phone it in" on this one, and I think it's truly commendable that he didn't.

As for the movie itself: as far as "superpowered racing snail" movies go, this one leads the pack. wink.gif
post #3059 of 3092
I popped in Kung-Fu Panda last night, and wow, that was impressive. Any one scene of that movie shows the night and day difference between surround sound and regular sound.

Definitely belongs in the top tier.
post #3060 of 3092
The Dark Knight Rises - Tier 1 - Busy mix especially the surround but the lacklusture LFE spoiled the experience for me. Thought the bass was better in TDK than this one.

The Last Stand - Tier 0 - Great dynamics and very good bass.

Brave - Top of Tier 0 - Except the occassional dropouts, this is a fantastic mix offering an immersive and engaging experience.

Elysium - Top of Tier 1 or bottom of Tier 0 Unfiltered LFE which we seldom get nowadays, spoiled due to lack of punch accompanying the sound though the mix gets better in the climax sequence.
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