Paradigm Sub 1 and Sub 2 - Page 45

Originally Posted by Warpdrv

They are completely separate software and hardware kits... The software is encoded to recognize the product that it was made for, so you cannot exchange the two.... The PBK software will recognize the serialized mic the comes with the kit and upload the correction files to the sub itself....

Originally Posted by Warpdrv

Friends that DIY don't let friend spend this kind of money on subs.... Help a brotha out... Help him BUILD a nice pair of LMS's or a dual opposed rig there buddy, and get him more bang for the buck...

Originally Posted by Rod#S

If memory serves the Sub 1 and Sub 2 both come with the PBK, it doesn't have to be purchased separately.

Originally Posted by DS-21



The dealer to whom we spoke wanted $100 extra for it. Plus tax. Whether that was just profiteering or not, or annoyance that someone wanted to special order a part rather than picking up something he had in stock, I don't know.

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Anyone with a Sub2 watched Ghost Protocol ? My sub (this is mt second one) cut out again during one scene (where the car crashes into the river after being shot at). i think its due a firmware upgrade as the original sub2 had its cut out threshold too high and i think Anthem/Paradigm did a firmware update to lower the cut out threshold. Its late here so im going to look for more info on this tomorrow.

Originally Posted by rwheelwright

I watched the scene last night with a couple of different volumes. I didn't experience any cut outs but maybe I didn't listen to it as loud as you did. For reference not that it matters I have the sub dialed in a 12:00, set to -5 on the MRX and had the MRX at -15 (maybe -10 too) and nothing.

Originally Posted by thestewman

Have you run PBK on the Sub 2 and ARC on the complete system ?
Reason I ask is your -5db setting.
After PBK and then an ARC setup, ARC should have reset the Sub 2 to a setting less than 12:00 and the MRX result for the Sub 2 should be around plus/minus 1db

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Ive been given the firmware update by a friend for the Sub2, will update once ive installed this

Originally Posted by |M|B.M.F.

So, as you guys know, my first sub 2 needed to be replaced because during high db lfe scenarios the sub would make a loud popping noise and then shut itself off.

So I went through the hassle of getting the second sub 2 and the second new sub2 did the same thing. Instead of replacing this one, tech support had me install a firmware update that would fix the problem. This worked fine in that it did eliminate the loud pop and shut off.

However, after several months of listening, I have now noticed a loud mechanical "bottoming out" sound during high db lfe scenarios from a variety of movies....

you can listen here. this is the scene in latest xmen prequel (kevin Bakin holds exploding grenade) should soundlike one solid bass note:

http://youtu.be/HQJSwqp3UjI


After a month of troubleshooting with tech support they concluded that they could not reproduce the issue in house and are telling me that they want to send yet another new sub 2 to replace the one I currently have. Perhaps this happened due to the loud pop prior to shut off?

I have asked them that perhaps there is something wrong with the lfe output on my D2. Unfortunately, no one around here in Denver (my dealers) or anthem/ paradigm seems to have the desire or ability to supply me with another pre/pro or receiver with hdmi i/0 and xlr output to test with to determine if the issue still happens when the D2 is removed from the chain.

Very frustrating. I am now in the position where I will have to return both the D2 for repair/analyisis and then deal with the exhange process of the sub 2 for the THIRD time.

This will be the THIRD return and or exhange of my D2 as well.

I want to pull my hair out when I think of A) having my home theater shut down for a month and B) having to move the SUB2 AGAIN.

Originally Posted by |M|B.M.F.

So, as you guys know, my first sub 2 needed to be replaced because during high db lfe scenarios the sub would make a loud popping noise and then shut itself off.

So I went through the hassle of getting the second sub 2 and the second new sub2 did the same thing. Instead of replacing this one, tech support had me install a firmware update that would fix the problem. This worked fine in that it did eliminate the loud pop and shut off.

However, after several months of listening, I have now noticed a loud mechanical "bottoming out" sound during high db lfe scenarios from a variety of movies....

you can listen here. this is the scene in latest xmen prequel (kevin Bakin holds exploding grenade) should soundlike one solid bass note:

http://youtu.be/HQJSwqp3UjI


After a month of troubleshooting with tech support they concluded that they could not reproduce the issue in house and are telling me that they want to send yet another new sub 2 to replace the one I currently have. Perhaps this happened due to the loud pop prior to shut off?

I have asked them that perhaps there is something wrong with the lfe output on my D2. Unfortunately, no one around here in Denver (my dealers) or anthem/ paradigm seems to have the desire or ability to supply me with another pre/pro or receiver with hdmi i/0 and xlr output to test with to determine if the issue still happens when the D2 is removed from the chain.

Very frustrating. I am now in the position where I will have to return both the D2 for repair/analyisis and then deal with the exhange process of the sub 2 for the THIRD time.

This will be the THIRD return and or exhange of my D2 as well.

I want to pull my hair out when I think of A) having my home theater shut down for a month and B) having to move the SUB2 AGAIN.

Originally Posted by |M|B.M.F.

yes... i believe all of the drivers are doing it. however, it is very difficult to determine the drivers that are faulty by ear. I really can not tell.

what would be a good example of a full range signal? I suppose I could just hook up the LF xlr out to the sub2, set the sub setting in the d2 to "none" and then play the same sequence out of any movie that induces the problem through LFE?

Originally Posted by |M|B.M.F.

So, as you guys know, my first sub 2 needed to be replaced because during high db lfe scenarios the sub would make a loud popping noise and then shut itself off.

So I went through the hassle of getting the second sub 2 and the second new sub2 did the same thing. Instead of replacing this one, tech support had me install a firmware update that would fix the problem. This worked fine in that it did eliminate the loud pop and shut off.

However, after several months of listening, I have now noticed a loud mechanical "bottoming out" sound during high db lfe scenarios from a variety of movies....

you can listen here. this is the scene in latest xmen prequel (kevin Bakin holds exploding grenade) should soundlike one solid bass note:

http://youtu.be/HQJSwqp3UjI


After a month of troubleshooting with tech support they concluded that they could not reproduce the issue in house and are telling me that they want to send yet another new sub 2 to replace the one I currently have. Perhaps this happened due to the loud pop prior to shut off?

I have asked them that perhaps there is something wrong with the lfe output on my D2. Unfortunately, no one around here in Denver (my dealers) or anthem/ paradigm seems to have the desire or ability to supply me with another pre/pro or receiver with hdmi i/0 and xlr output to test with to determine if the issue still happens when the D2 is removed from the chain.

Very frustrating. I am now in the position where I will have to return both the D2 for repair/analyisis and then deal with the exhange process of the sub 2 for the THIRD time.

This will be the THIRD return and or exhange of my D2 as well.

I want to pull my hair out when I think of A) having my home theater shut down for a month and B) having to move the SUB2 AGAIN.

Originally Posted by blazar 

4 sub 2 in 4 corners with EQ. Who has dropped the money bomb on this setup?

Should sound like Zeus coming from olympus to impregnate you while in the form of a T-rex? ... You may not survive it but it might be interesting to watch while it lasts.

Originally Posted by studlygoorite 

My Sub 2 just died, no sound at all. I was recalibrating as I had moved the sub and tried to set the sub level to 75db through the D2v and no sound at all. Fuse in the house is ok. Anyone know of a fuse, maybe in the amp before I email them?
PS, Did I mention I just started two weeks holidays and have plenty of unwatched blurays?
John

Originally Posted by thestewman 

John
Are you using the auto sense mode or a trigger to turn on the sub ?
Do you see the blue indicator light on ?

Originally Posted by studlygoorite 

I was using Auto but neither work and there is no blue light.

Originally Posted by studlygoorite 

Tried all of this pal and still a no go, D2v is still sending a signal as my transducer in my chair still works and 240v still pumping as when I plug the power into the Sub 2 you can here the ever so faint "snap" of the connection being made.[/quote

Well you tried everything. Time to call Anthem on the telephone.
Let us know what happens

Originally Posted by studlygoorite 

Just received my replacement amp, installed, calibrated and good to go.

Originally Posted by thestewman 

Thankfully the amp was removable and you did not have to ship the complete Sub2 back.
Sound any different ?

Originally Posted by studlygoorite 

You're telling me, it sounds different in that I moved it back to the back corner where I get the most output as I was lacking some thump to the chest with music but I watched Thor again last night and it sounds awesome. Ran PBK then Velodyne Sub EQ to try and tame some of the boom then ARC. My graph on the Velodyne EQ was perfectly flat but as you can see, not so much after ARC, but still not bad.
John
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