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post #2821 of 4660
9/30/10 at 8:13am
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Originally Posted by hary View Post

I just bought a 3007 from Best Buy for 800 bucks out of the door! coming from a Pio SC05, I'm not sure how much I will miss the ICE amp...

I do have a question, as it was an open box, the microphone was missing. Can I use any microphone for the Audissey set up, for instance the one that came with the Pioneer SC-05?

Unfortunately no!

Audyssey microphones are individually calibrated to the specific model of the AVR they are sold with. The use of a different mic will result in an inaccurate Audyssey calibration. I believe that you can purchase the correct mic for your 3007 directly from Onkyo for around (please don't hold me to this) $35.

I'd advise you to check out the Audyssey thread in this forum for a wealth of set-up information and more.
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post #2822 of 4660
9/30/10 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by hary View Post

I just bought a 3007 from Best Buy for 800 bucks out of the door! coming from a Pio SC05, I'm not sure how much I will miss the ICE amp...

I do have a question, as it was an open box, the microphone was missing. Can I use any microphone for the Audissey set up, for instance the one that came with the Pioneer SC-05?

Helluva deal, BUT you NEED that mic!

No the mic required is specific to the Onkyo model family as they are calibrated to match the AVR.

Go back to BB and see if they can round one up, or contact who had the AVR before you and contact them, look around the store near the AVR's or get one of the sales associates to look for you (go to the Onkyo website and print off a picture to show them , it might be sitting somewhere in the store gathering dust...), tell them without the matching mic Audyssey is pretty much useless.

Other then that you will have to contact Onkyo and see if you can buy a replacement.
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post #2823 of 4660
9/30/10 at 8:59am
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

How hot is too hot?

I know my Directv receiver in the closet runs at 106F........

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Not sure what too hot is, my NR3007 still shows 111 F (43.9 C) after running for 3 hours now... but then when I turned it on it showed 109 F (42.8 C)????

I am beginning to think the temperature sensor is not working!

Just turned on the NR3007 after it being off all night, and the temperature reads as 82 F... interesting still not room temperature?

I recall a post about this, must search...
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post #2824 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:01am
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Originally Posted by hary View Post

I just bought a 3007 from Best Buy for 800 bucks out of the door! coming from a Pio SC05, I'm not sure how much I will miss the ICE amp...

I do have a question, as it was an open box, the microphone was missing. Can I use any microphone for the Audissey set up, for instance the one that came with the Pioneer SC-05?

Definitely not. Each mic is calibrated to a calibration curve that is unique for a specific AVR. Although the mics look the same, they are not interchangeable for this reason. Audyssey are very clear about this in their FAQs and so on on their own website.

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2825 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Just turned on the NR3007 after it being off all night, and the temperature reads as 82 F... interesting still not room temperature?

I recall a post about this, must search...

Hi Al,

Originally, with all this talk of how hot the 5007 runs, I had the position that Onkyo designed the amp to run at a certain temperature so why worry and obsess about it. Then, I got infected with 'forumitis' and started to think that it really mattered. Later, some knowledgeable people on here suggested that *any* electronic equiment was better running cool rather than hot. So I bought two 4 inch low-noise computer fans and put them on top of the 5007. They made a tremendous difference, dropping the temperature from 52 degrees C to less than 40.

But then, I went even further You know those digital thermometers you can buy for a few bucks that are designed to tell you the temperature inside your house and outside as well? They have a probe on a wire that you run through a wall to the outside? Well, I bought one of these and installed it in the boot room where my 5007 lives. The top display tells me the ambient temperature of the room, which is always about 28 degrees C - at least 5 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. This will be because it is crammed with gear on standby I guess. For the bottom reading on the thermometer, which usually tells the outside temperature, I have laid the probe on top of the 5007 so that it reads the case temperature at the position of the probe. When the amp is off, this temperature is typically 29 degrees C. So it is warmer than ambient by 1 degree. I expect this is because the 5007 is on standby and is running some circuits to some extent, albeit not much.

Obsessed? Well maybe I am now But this is an easy way to keep an eye on what the 5007 is doing. It may not be telling me the internal temperature etc but it gives a consistent basis for comparison. For example, when I have had the 5007 on for two hours watching a movie at fairly high levels, the room temperature can go to 34 degrees C (with both my computer fans running) and the AVR itself will be somewhere in that region too. Maybe a degree or so higher. If I run the AVR without my computer fans switched on, the ambient room temperature is still about 34 degrees but the case temperature of the 5007 can read as high as 55 degrees C in those circs.

I now always run the 5007 with both my computer fans running and I check the temperature of the room and the case when I have finished watching a movie. If any serious overheating happens, I will know at a glance.

My wife thinks I am totally nuts of course In fact, *I* think I am totally nuts sometimes. But what I have discovered is that a) the computer fans really do work to keep the internal temperature of the AVR down and b) there is more than one use for an indoor/outdoor digital thermometer

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2826 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Hi Al,

Originally, with all this talk of how hot the 5007 runs, I had the position that Onkyo designed the amp to run at a certain temperature so why worry and obsess about it. Then, I got infected with 'forumitis' and started to think that it really mattered. Later, some knowledgeable people on here suggested that *any* electronic equiment was better running cool rather than hot. So I bought two 4 inch low-noise computer fans and put them on top of the 5007. They made a tremendous difference, dropping the temperature from 52 degrees C to less than 40.

But then, I went even further You know those digital thermometers you can buy for a few bucks that are designed to tell you the temperature inside your house and outside as well? They have a probe on a wire that you run through a wall to the outside? Well, I bought one of these and installed it in the boot room where my 5007 lives. The top display tells me the ambient temperature of the room, which is always about 28 degrees C - at least 5 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. This will be because it is crammed with gear on standby I guess. For the bottom reading on the thermometer, which usually tells the outside temperature, I have laid the probe on top of the 5007 so that it reads the case temperature at the position of the probe. When the amp is off, this temperature is typically 29 degrees C. So it is warmer than ambient by 1 degree. I expect this is because the 5007 is on standby and is running some circuits to some extent, albeit not much.

Obsessed? Well maybe I am now But this is an easy way to keep an eye on what the 5007 is doing. It may not be telling me the internal temperature etc but it gives a consistent basis for comparison. For example, when I have had the 5007 on for two hours watching a movie at fairly high levels, the room temperature can go to 34 degrees C (with both my computer fans running) and the AVR itself will be somewhere in that region too. Maybe a degree or so higher. If I run the AVR without my computer fans switched on, the ambient room temperature is still about 34 degrees but the case temperature of the 5007 can read as high as 55 degrees C in those circs.

I now always run the 5007 with both my computer fans running and I check the temperature of the room and the case when I have finished watching a movie. If any serious overheating happens, I will know at a glance.

My wife thinks I am totally nuts of course In fact, *I* think I am totally nuts sometimes. But what I have discovered is that a) the computer fans really do work to keep the internal temperature of the AVR down and b) there is more than one use for an indoor/outdoor digital thermometer

Kind Regards,

Keith

Dang Keith, why did you tell me all of this!!!

I have some 'extra' thermometers, now I will have to locate one on the NR3007!

Too bad the temperature can't be displayed through the monitor output, or by a program like NRControl...

Fans will be added at some future date to cool the NR3007, just need to find more time in my day!

BTW, found that post about standby temeperatures, the user found that the HDMI pass though settings affected the standby temperature.
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post #2827 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:36am
By default is the OSD always/only a 480p image?

My HDMI monitor setting is 'through', if I change this to 1080p it doesn't seem to affect the OSD?

Still read by the monitor as a 480p signal.
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post #2828 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Definitely not. Each mic is calibrated to a calibration curve that is unique for a specific AVR. Although the mics look the same, they are not interchangeable for this reason. Audyssey are very clear about this in their FAQs and so on on their own website.

Kind Regards,

Keith

thanks for the quick reply, you guys are great! I'll go back there and ask for the mic or 10% off!
I'll you guys know how I like it vs the Pio SC05 once I set it up.

Hary
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post #2829 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Dang Keith, why did you tell me all of this!!!

Haha. I thought it was just too good to keep to myself, Al

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

I have some 'extra' thermometers, now I will have to locate one on the NR3007!

Yeah - it's the latest essential upgrade! Hardware stores located near to HT stores can expect a run on digital thermometers

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Too bad the temperature can't be displayed through the monitor output, or by a program like NRControl...

Oh, I'm sure that sooner or later I will have to figure out how to send the temperature data, wirelessly, to my Mac and then into some sort of analysis program. In fact, those weather stations can do that already I believe. Maybe what I need in the boot room is its own *weather station*. Haha...

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Fans will be added at some future date to cool the NR3007, just need to find more time in my day!

Yes indeed. All I did was buy two ultra-quiet 4 inch PC fans, cut off the terminations and wire them to a 12 volt wall wart instead and stick them on top of the 5007. My fans came with little silicone rubber 'vibration isolators' which make nice little 'feet' for the fans which holds them clear of the AVR case and also stops them moving around - not that I think they would. I didn’t got otany great lengths to make the fans look good or to make casings for them or anything as some have. They’re not in the HT itself so beautification isn’t an issue!


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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

BTW, found that post about standby temeperatures, the user found that the HDMI pass though settings affected the standby temperature.

I know that if you operate with HDMI control switched ON (mine is OFF) the AVR runs quite hot even in standby but didn’t know about pass through. One day I think I will just use my AVR for watching movies you know

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2830 of 4660
9/30/10 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by hary View Post

thanks for the quick reply, you guys are great! I'll go back there and ask for the mic or 10% off!
I'll you guys know how I like it vs the Pio SC05 once I set it up.

Hary

If you can't get hold of the genuine 3007 mic, then you may know someone with the same AVR who can lend you one for the Audyssey setup. Despite what you read in the forums, it isn't something you have to do every day

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2831 of 4660
10/1/10 at 12:11am
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New firmware available now for the NR5007, NR3007, NR1007, PR-SC5507, NR807:

• Increases the stability of network operations;
• Improves the playback of some particular files;
• Improves the processing of DSD for output to subwoofer (not for the NR807)

For 5007,3007,5507 use network update or USB download:
http://download.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ON...REHAHA_111.zip
Instructions for the above and the 1007: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...-sc_091016.pdf
For the 807: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...807_090916.pdf

Precautions for Firmware Update
• The firmware update may fail if an external HDMI control signal is input during the update procedure. Please be sure to turn off the HDMI control function (RIHD) on your A/V receiver before starting the update.
How to turn off RIHD:
In the Main menu select "7. Hardware Setup", then "7-4. HDMI".
Set "HDMI Control" to OFF.
• Please read the update instructions carefully before beginning.
• The firmware update should take 30 to 40 minutes. Once the update begins, don't turn off the power supply to the A/V receiver until it is time to restart it.
• Depending on the conditions of the network, a firmware update via a network may take more than one hour or even fail to finish. If the update is not completed within two hours, turn off the power supply by pushing the ON/STANDBY button and then try updating again from the beginning.
• Updating the firmware and adjusting the settings will be done automatically, but may take some time to complete. Please follow the procedures as instructed when you update. Note that the update may fail, or cause problems for your A/V receiver, if you do any of the following:
• Pull out the A/V receiver’s power cord;
• Interrupt the power supply to the A/V receiver (e.g. if the breaker is tripped or if there is an electrical outage);
• Insert or remove the LAN cable from a device in your network when updating over a network;
• Insert or remove a USB memory device from the A/V receiver when updating via USB;
• Operate components connected to the A/V receiver via HDMI, such as a TV or a recording device.

If your A/V receiver is damaged for any of the reasons above, an Onkyo service center will repair the unit for a fee.
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post #2832 of 4660
10/1/10 at 2:30am
Quite surprising (at least for Onkyo), that updates are still coming for the discontinued models.

PS.: Now let's see, if there will be an Audyssey MultEQ XT32 update coming next.
Anyone tried the latest firmware update for the 3008/5008 on his 3007/5007 ?
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post #2833 of 4660
10/1/10 at 3:25am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

If you can't get hold of the genuine 3007 mic, then you may know someone with the same AVR who can lend you one for the Audyssey setup. Despite what you read in the forums, it isn't something you have to do every day

Kind Regards,

Keith

I went back yesterday and they found it in no time. thanks for all your help.
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post #2834 of 4660
10/1/10 at 5:00am
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

New firmware available now for the NR5007, NR3007, NR1007, PR-SC5507, NR807:

Increases the stability of network operations;
Improves the playback of some particular files;
Improves the processing of DSD for output to subwoofer (not for the NR807)

For 5007,3007,5507 use network update or USB download:
http://download.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ON...REHAHA_111.zip
Instructions for the above and the 1007: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...-sc_091016.pdf
For the 807: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...807_090916.pdf

Thanks for the heads-up, I just upgraded my HT-RC180 (807 clone) and 5507.

- Rich
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post #2835 of 4660
10/1/10 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by hary View Post

I went back yesterday and they found it in no time. thanks for all your help.

Good result. Glad you got it sorted. Do take some time to have a look at the Audyssey website, especially the sections on mic placement. If you follow their guidelines you should get a superb result the first time you run the MultEQ program.

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2836 of 4660
10/1/10 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by hary View Post

I went back yesterday and they found it in no time. thanks for all your help.

Now that red hot deal has gotten even better!

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Good result. Glad you got it sorted. Do take some time to have a look at the Audyssey website, especially the sections on mic placement. If you follow their guidelines you should get a superb result the first time you run the MultEQ program.

Kind Regards,

Keith

Keith makes some good points, just remember to do all of this during a quiet time in the house and take a read of the Audyssey Setup Guide developed by giomania, I found it quite usefull.

Audyssey Setup Guide
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post #2837 of 4660
10/1/10 at 8:07am
[quote=rickardl;19271911]New firmware available now for the NR5007, NR3007, NR1007, PR-SC5507, NR807:

• Increases the stability of network operations;
• Improves the playback of some particular files;
• Improves the processing of DSD for output to subwoofer (not for the NR807)

For 5007,3007,5507 use network update or USB download:
http://download.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ON...REHAHA_111.zip
QUOTE]

Yes, thanks for the heads up, interesting that the US site still provides 108 as a firmware upgrade from the product page... UPDATE, as of 9:25 it has v111 from the NR3007 product page.
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post #2838 of 4660
10/1/10 at 10:01am
Well I applied this update from USB and was it fast, less then 10 minutes from giving it the go ahead to getting the checksum!

Old : 1281-2003-0511-3103
New: 1291-2403-0511-4103

So far so good...
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post #2839 of 4660
10/1/10 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Well I applied this update from USB and was it fast, less then 10 minutes from giving it the go ahead to getting the checksum!

Old : 1281-2003-0511-3103
New: 1291-2403-0511-4103

So far so good...

Out of interest, Al, do you always apply every upgrade regardless of whether you need the new features/benefits or not? I need nothing in this latest FW so won't be upgrading. It all goes back to when I updated the FW, routinely, on my Toshiba HD-DVD player and it bricked it. I kicked myself because I didn't actually need whatever the update did anyway. The player was scrap metal - Toshiba had long since stopped making them and I had to source a replacement from eBay for the 150 or so HD-DVDs that I have.

So now, I only update, via CD or USB not via the net, if I have an issue that the new FW aims to solve, or if it adds functionality that I actually need. I would be distraught if I went to update my 5007 by USB and at the end of the process, as with my Tosh, I was left with a substantial doorstop!

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2840 of 4660
10/1/10 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Out of interest, Al, do you always apply every upgrade regardless of whether you need the new features/benefits or not? I need nothing in this latest FW so won't be upgrading. It all goes back to when I updated the FW, routinely, on my Toshiba HD-DVD player and it bricked it. I kicked myself because I didn't actually need whatever the update did anyway. The player was scrap metal - Toshiba had long since stopped making them and I had to source a replacement from eBay for the 150 or so HD-DVDs that I have.

So now, I only update, via CD or USB not via the net, if I have an issue that the new FW aims to solve, or if it adds functionality that I actually need. I would be distraught if I went to update my 5007 by USB and at the end of the process, as with my Tosh, I was left with a substantial doorstop!

Kind Regards,

Keith

I guess the " So far so good... " gave me away...?

Normally I am a little hesitant to F/W just for the sake of it being the latest available, generally s you say I only apply it if it fixes a problem I am having with that device or it adds a feature that I want.

In this case I do use the network and play to play some different files through the NR3007 so I thought that I would venture forward even though nothing so far was broken (other then a temperature reading that defies logic).

Interesting that you mention Toshiba HD-DVD, I am a supporter (if that is still possible given it's demise), with about 100 HDDVD's in my collection and more on the way from eBay, there is a player hooked to every display.

I have recently bought a A2 for parts (stuck on the setup screen), a A20 was my first purchase, then an A30 and a A35 not to mention 2 PC based HDDVD drives. Regarding F/W on these machines, they are all at v4.0 and I have yet to brick one doing F/W upgrades, this is not to say I may have been just lucky.

As you say, I prefer to do updates from CDROM or USB for safety reasons, but maybe I am just 'old school'? At least if you have a problem with the NR5007 Onkyo will fix it.
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post #2841 of 4660
10/1/10 at 11:06pm
Hello,
For those doing the FW Update, make sure to turn off HDMI Control. I just went through 4 Hours of terror. Most of which thinking I bricked my 3007 because of this.

My Updates usually take 20 Minutes, but this time I noticed that after 2 Hours, it still just said Download 100%... and doing nothing. So I turned off the AVR.

Upon doing this I had Sound, but no Picture. I went through the Setup Menu via the Display and turned off HDMI Control and started the Update again.

This time, it read VMPUSetting... for an hour and I could not turn off the 3007 by pressing the Standby Button. I finally unplugged the AVR from the back and still had Sound, but no Picture. I tried Downloading the Firmware 2 Times and each time I got an Error Message.

On the 3rd try, amazingly the Update proceeded and everything returned. I still do not understand how I was so lucky as I really thought I had bricked the Unit.

So just as a reminder, please turn off HDMI Control before proceeding with the update.
Cheers,
AD
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post #2842 of 4660
10/2/10 at 1:58am
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

I guess the " So far so good... " gave me away...?

Normally I am a little hesitant to F/W just for the sake of it being the latest available, generally s you say I only apply it if it fixes a problem I am having with that device or it adds a feature that I want.

It just terrifies the c**p out of me. Once bricked, twice shy.

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

In this case I do use the network and play to play some different files through the NR3007 so I thought that I would venture forward even though nothing so far was broken (other then a temperature reading that defies logic).

Yes, if I genuinely want the new feature or improvement, I grit my teeth and go ahead. I can feel my heart rate increase while the thing is updating. Literally. And I am terrified of a power outage during the process. I live in the countryside and we occasionally get short power outages of just a minute or so. They occur randomly at any time of the day or night so it's hard to predict them. Usually safe at 1 or 2 am though so that's when I do any FW updates. Again, my wife thinks I am nuts

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Interesting that you mention Toshiba HD-DVD, I am a supporter (if that is still possible given it's demise), with about 100 HDDVD's in my collection and more on the way from eBay, there is a player hooked to every display.

I originally backed HD-DVD to win. I still think it offered more to the end user, especially region-free everything. I have about 150 HD-DVD discs and pick up new ones occasionally at bargain prices like you do.

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

I have recently bought a A2 for parts (stuck on the setup screen), a A20 was my first purchase, then an A30 and a A35 not to mention 2 PC based HDDVD drives. Regarding F/W on these machines, they are all at v4.0 and I have yet to brick one doing F/W upgrades, this is not to say I may have been just lucky.

I originally bought an A35, which then got bricked, and I replaced it with another A35, second-hand off eBay. I also spotted an A30 going really cheap and bought that as a second back-up, so I should have all bases covered now.

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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

As you say, I prefer to do updates from CDROM or USB for safety reasons, but maybe I am just 'old school'? At least if you have a problem with the NR5007 Onkyo will fix it.

The problem there for me is that I live in England. Customer Service hasn't been invented here yet. There is no Onkyo service centre anywhere near where I live - not even sure if there is one in the country! And because we are ripped off on price, and the 5007 is about £2,500 here, I bought my 5007 from Hungary for £1,400. It was from a genuine Onkyo authorised supplier so I assume my warranty etc is all good to go, but who knows? Fortunately, my experience has always been that if a piece of electronic gear works for me out of the box, it carries on working for many years, or even indefinitely in some instances. But you can see why I live in fear of bricking the thing. My 5007 works to 100% perfection for me - at least it does on the things I use - for all I know the network side might be totally FUBAR but as I don't use it, I don't know, or care really. While it is working well, I am very, very reluctant to tempt fate with FW updates.

Kind Regards,

Keith

EDIT: Just spotted Audiodork's experience above. What was I saying about being terrified?
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post #2843 of 4660
10/2/10 at 2:02am
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Originally Posted by Audiodork View Post

Hello,
For those doing the FW Update, make sure to turn off HDMI Control. I just went through 4 Hours of terror. Most of which thinking I bricked my 3007 because of this.

My Updates usually take 20 Minutes, but this time I noticed that after 2 Hours, it still just said Download 100%... and doing nothing. So I turned off the AVR.

Upon doing this I had Sound, but no Picture. I went through the Setup Menu via the Display and turned off HDMI Control and started the Update again.

This time, it read VMPUSetting... for an hour and I could not turn off the 3007 by pressing the Standby Button. I finally unplugged the AVR from the back and still had Sound, but no Picture. I tried Downloading the Firmware 2 Times and each time I got an Error Message.

On the 3rd try, amazingly the Update proceeded and everything returned. I still do not understand how I was so lucky as I really thought I had bricked the Unit.

So just as a reminder, please turn off HDMI Control before proceeding with the update.
Cheers,
AD

Phew! See my post to Al Sherwood. I am so glad you got it sorted in the end, but I share your terror

Kind Regards,

Keith
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post #2844 of 4660
10/2/10 at 3:19am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

New firmware available now for the NR5007, NR3007, NR1007, PR-SC5507, NR807:

• Increases the stability of network operations;
• Improves the playback of some particular files;
• Improves the processing of DSD for output to subwoofer (not for the NR807)

For 5007,3007,5507 use network update or USB download:
http://download.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ON...REHAHA_111.zip
Instructions for the above and the 1007: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...-sc_091016.pdf
For the 807: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...807_090916.pdf

Precautions for Firmware Update
• The firmware update may fail if an external HDMI control signal is input during the update procedure. Please be sure to turn off the HDMI control function (RIHD) on your A/V receiver before starting the update.
How to turn off RIHD:
In the Main menu select "7. Hardware Setup", then "7-4. HDMI".
Set "HDMI Control" to OFF.
• Please read the update instructions carefully before beginning.
• The firmware update should take 30 to 40 minutes. Once the update begins, don't turn off the power supply to the A/V receiver until it is time to restart it.
• Depending on the conditions of the network, a firmware update via a network may take more than one hour or even fail to finish. If the update is not completed within two hours, turn off the power supply by pushing the ON/STANDBY button and then try updating again from the beginning.
• Updating the firmware and adjusting the settings will be done automatically, but may take some time to complete. Please follow the procedures as instructed when you update. Note that the update may fail, or cause problems for your A/V receiver, if you do any of the following:
• Pull out the A/V receiver’s power cord;
• Interrupt the power supply to the A/V receiver (e.g. if the breaker is tripped or if there is an electrical outage);
• Insert or remove the LAN cable from a device in your network when updating over a network;
• Insert or remove a USB memory device from the A/V receiver when updating via USB;
• Operate components connected to the A/V receiver via HDMI, such as a TV or a recording device.

If your A/V receiver is damaged for any of the reasons above, an Onkyo service center will repair the unit for a fee.

A better description:

1. Increase the stability of network operations
(Improves network operation when using the TCP/IP control)
2. Improve the playback of some particular files
(Corrects playback of mp3 files that don't play properly and some WAV files may experience some noise)
3. Improve the processing of DSD for output to Subwoofer
(Corrects DSD 5.1 ch, Subwoofer volume level which is 10 dB higher than regular Direct mode)

The firmware update bumped Main from 1.28 to 1.29 and DSP 1st/NET from 1.20 to 1.24 but also VIDEO from 1.13 to 1.14.
Main: 1.28 -> 1.29
DSP 1st/NET: 1.20 -> 1.24
DSP 2nd: 1.03 -> 1.03
DSP 3rd: 1.05 -> 1.05
VIDEO: 1.13 -> 1.14
VSP(Reon): 1.03 -> 1.03
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post #2845 of 4660
10/2/10 at 8:12am
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Good result. Glad you got it sorted. Do take some time to have a look at the Audyssey website, especially the sections on mic placement. If you follow their guidelines you should get a superb result the first time you run the MultEQ program.

Kind Regards,

Keith

So does it matter if you use a mic from another 3007 receiver or must it be the one that came with the receiver (even when it is another 3007)? Why I ask is that I have 2 - 3007 and use 1 mic to calibrate Audyssey.
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post #2846 of 4660
10/2/10 at 8:26am
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The problem there for me is that I live in England. Customer Service hasn't been invented here yet. There is no Onkyo service centre anywhere near where I live - not even sure if there is one in the country! And because we are ripped off on price, and the 5007 is about £2,500 here, I bought my 5007 from Hungary for £1,400. It was from a genuine Onkyo authorised supplier so I assume my warranty etc is all good to go, but who knows? Fortunately, my experience has always been that if a piece of electronic gear works for me out of the box, it carries on working for many years, or even indefinitely in some instances. But you can see why I live in fear of bricking the thing. My 5007 works to 100% perfection for me - at least it does on the things I use - for all I know the network side might be totally FUBAR but as I don't use it, I don't know, or care really. While it is working well, I am very, very reluctant to tempt fate with FW updates.

Kind Regards,

Keith

EDIT: Just spotted Audiodork's experience above. What was I saying about being terrified?

Yes F/W it can fix up so many things after the product leaves the factory, but it can bring it all 'crashing down' as well! (Think - PC O/S updates!)

You mentioned features that you don't need/use, I had a situation last year where my Satellite box was connected to the old projector via component video, I upgraded the PJ to one with HDMI just to find out that the HDMI probably never worked on the sat box from day 1! That was a $100 touch to exchange the box for a refurb through the Satellite provider...

Ever since then I try to use/test every function on a product when I first get it to ensure it works, and as we all know there are 100's of settings and features on the Onkyo that you could check!
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post #2847 of 4660
10/2/10 at 8:29am
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So does it matter if you use a mic from another 3007 receiver or must it be the one that came with the receiver (even when it is another 3007)? Why I ask is that I have 2 - 3007 and use 1 mic to calibrate Audyssey.

It came from the same model so you will be fine...

Probably within the same family they are all the same (807,1007,3007,5007).
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post #2848 of 4660
10/2/10 at 8:43am
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Phew! See my post to Al Sherwood. I am so glad you got it sorted in the end, but I share your terror

Kind Regards,

Keith

Hello,
I still cannot believe I have a working AVR. After getting the VMPUSetting... show up on my Display and not changing for an hour until I unplugged it, I really thought I had a brick. Especially after the first FW attempts resulted in Error Codes.

While it was a pain to have to redo Audyssey, Crosovers, Input Naming, etc, words do not describe my joy that my AVR is working and has the newest FW installed.
Cheers.
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post #2849 of 4660
10/2/10 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Speedball_r1
Hmm,

I just disabled the Subwoofer in speaker settings and guess what. All relay clicks disapear, EXCEPT the loud one when going from DD5.1 to 2.0.

Strange...

Reply SMO5007:
This is absolutely correct...and it is strange that ONKYO would design something like this...

CBdicX:
Correct, and the most strange thing is that the "mute click" on the end of evey song played through USB is also gone
I did found that very bad as the click happens on silent parts, on the switch to the next song.
Mailed this also to Onkyo and the reply was that this could not be fixed as it was the design that the receiver went to mute on the end of each song.......

Well, now it seems to be a problem with the sub(s) out for the static noise and the various clicking !
Also the mentioned static noise is active when the sub(s) is activated in the speaker setup menu.

Finally i have found the cause of the cause of the excessive clicking with my 1007! Thankyou. Why does disabling the subwoofer prevent the clicking and why has this not been reported by all owners? With the subwoofer disabled the 1007 is as silent as my older 876. Is it possible to get the LFE channel by using one of the other preout channels?
Any chance Onkyo might fix this?
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post #2850 of 4660
10/2/10 at 9:44am
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Hello,
I still cannot believe I have a working AVR. After getting the VMPUSetting... show up on my Display and not changing for an hour until I unplugged it, I really thought I had a brick. Especially after the first FW attempts resulted in Error Codes.

While it was a pain to have to redo Audyssey, Crosovers, Input Naming, etc, words do not describe my joy that my AVR is working and has the newest FW installed.
Cheers.
AD

Good that your AVR is back from the brink!

Interesting that you lost ALL of your settings, normally you wouldn't due to a F/W upgrade, probably removing power all together did it?
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