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post #1351 of 1711
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Originally Posted by roknrol View Post

Has anyone else seen (or tried) the supposed 3D converter from Monoprice?

It's the 3D Creator - 2D to 3D HDTV Converter (Red/Cyan, Frame Sequential and Side by Side) w/ Remote (model 8048). States that it's specifically geared toward 3D-ready DLP-link projectors.

Just ran across it while cruising the site. Love that.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

It appears this monoprice converter does also convert 3D for use with DLP projectors with 3D DLP link glasses. Not bad for $100! Just add 3D link shutter glasses!

It appears also it may have problems with 24p 3D video so maybe not the best option now.
post #1352 of 1711
Ronomy,

I just posted this question for you at the Monoprice thread, but I might as well post it here as well since it pertains to the Acer 5360 (and similar FPs). Can the monoprice unit serve the same role as the VIP/3dxl 3D processor for watching 3D content?

Thanks
post #1353 of 1711
I did not check the forum. I did look at the link to the product and did not see anywhere where it is able to process HDMI 1.4 3d. To me this sounds like a toy that does what a lot of displays or even 3d capable BD players can do. That does not mean 2d to 3d conversion is worth a hoot. That was my take and if I got it wrong I am sure that someone will correct it.
post #1354 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Raul GS View Post

Ronomy,

I just posted this question for you at the Monoprice thread, but I might as well post it here as well since it pertains to the Acer 5360 (and similar FPs). Can the monoprice unit serve the same role as the VIP/3dxl 3D processor for watching 3D content?

Thanks

I have to say no! Even in bypass it will not pass 1080p/24 3D off to my VIP Theater. I had to remove it from the signal path last night.

It does a good job with converting 2D to 3D SBS format. I'll use it to calibrate my 3D image andprobably leave it out of the signal path.

So it doesn't like 24p so basically all 3D movies on Bluray. They screwed up designing this device. It should at least bypass everything.
post #1355 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Raul GS View Post

Ronomy,

I just posted this question for you at the Monoprice thread, but I might as well post it here as well since it pertains to the Acer 5360 (and similar FPs). Can the monoprice unit serve the same role as the VIP/3dxl 3D processor for watching 3D content?

Thanks

Just get the VIP Displayer or better yet Theatre unit if you want to process SBS and Top/bottom 3D. These work flawlessly with a 3D ready projector like the Acer. The RF glasses work great too but if you sit close enough the IR glasses should work well with the Acer. The RF glasses will work even when you look away from the screen and stay in sync. If you get the Theatre unit and have directv it will auto change modes too. Image quality is very good even though its 720p. I highly recommend this setup.
post #1356 of 1711
Anyone have any luck hooking up a htpc running Nvidia 3d through the hdmi of a denon xx11 series receiver and then on to the Acer?

I tried an edid .inf hack and was able to get it to recognize the Acer, and I was able to set up, run and complete the wizard, but I can't get any 3d on powerdvd 10. I messed with every powerdvd setting, but the emitter will never come on!

And then, if I ever get that part figured out, looks like I'll be having trouble getting HD audio back. Ugh, any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated
post #1357 of 1711
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Originally Posted by maintman View Post

Anyone have any luck hooking up a htpc running Nvidia 3d through the hdmi of a denon xx11 series receiver and then on to the Acer?

I tried an edid .inf hack and was able to get it to recognize the Acer, and I was able to set up, run and complete the wizard, but I can't get any 3d on powerdvd 10. I messed with every powerdvd setting, but the emitter will never come on!

And then, if I ever get that part figured out, looks like I'll be having trouble getting HD audio back. Ugh, any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated

Do you have the Nvidia 3d solution which is their kit? If not, good luck. The greedy folks have seemingly figured out how to unspoof the workarounds and make you buy their product. Why would you need a hack for an Acer unit that is supposed to be supported? Better yet, why would one need a hack at all for a card that says it supports 3d. All I can say is try older Nvidia drivers. Lame.
post #1358 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Mikes2cents View Post

Do you have the Nvidia 3d solution which is their kit? If not, good luck. The greedy folks have seemingly figured out how to unspoof the workarounds and make you buy their product. Why would you need a hack for an Acer unit that is supposed to be supported? Better yet, why would one need a hack at all for a card that says it supports 3d. All I can say is try older Nvidia drivers. Lame.

The purpose of the hack is to trick the pc into seeing the receiver as the
acer so you can you can run the projector thru the receiver. Otherwise you have to plug the Acer directly into the nVidia card and a second cable to the receiver for sound.♦
post #1359 of 1711
Mikes2cents & jimmy3d -- That's exactly why I bought an Optoma 3D-XL, so I don't have to fight the HTPC setup wars. My Oppo BDP-93 has 2 HDMI outputs, one for the 3D-XL/H5360 and the other for my HDMI 1.3 AVR.

BTW, the 3D-XL vesa connector for the IR emitter is not compatible with the Nvidia emitter & glasses, so I wasted that money. I bought the Samsung/Mitsubishi compatible UltraClear glasses, and emitter, as recommended by wnielsenbb (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1341). They are rechargeable and a lot less "clunky" than the Nvidia ones, too (but are compatible with the 3D-XL system).

It's a real bummer that the Nvidia vesa connector is not compatible with the "standard" vesa 3D connectors on a lot of boxes (regardless of what some web sites are saying).
post #1360 of 1711
Yep, i'm done trying to get it to work. I got a hdmi coupler so that I can just switch the receiver's out with the computer whenever needed. Not too big a deal (better than plugging/unplugging from the projector all the time). I got the 3d-xl as well and I'm very pleased with it, but I still enjoy using my htpc too. Btw, I bought an universal emitter that I use in conjunction with the Nvidia glasses and the 3d-xl. It works splendidly. It has much better range than the Nvidia emitter.
post #1361 of 1711
Does anyone know where i can get Acer for $499 seems go up in last few days on tigerdirect thanks guys also somewhere that ship to oz
post #1362 of 1711
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Originally Posted by jimmy3d View Post

The purpose of the hack is to trick the pc into seeing the receiver as the
acer so you can you can run the projector thru the receiver. Otherwise you have to plug the Acer directly into the nVidia card and a second cable to the receiver for sound.♦

Yeah, I see that, I was talking about the emitter spoof. Without an emitter hooked up to the PC with an Nvidia card you will not be able to enable 3d on the PC so who cares what AVR or PJ you have? I am talking about the software part that looks for the emitter hardware. I do not want to get to ranting about Nvidia again as I am sure people are as tired of it as I am.
post #1363 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Mikes2cents View Post
Yeah, I see that, I was talking about the emitter spoof. Without an emitter hooked up to the PC with an Nvidia card you will not be able to enable 3d on the PC so who cares what AVR or PJ you have? I am talking about the software part that looks for the emitter hardware. I do not want to get to ranting about Nvidia again as I am sure people are as tired of it as I am.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you were talking about
post #1364 of 1711
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Originally Posted by nvcheeko View Post

Does anyone know where i can get Acer for $499 seems go up in last few days on tigerdirect thanks guys also somewhere that ship to oz

Hey mate... I spent ages on this.

Just had my H5360 shipped to australia. Picked it up yesterday. Working sweetly.

I got it from NewEgg which had a promo running, it was $495. I had it shipped to a freight forwarder called PriceUSA. PriceUSA then shipped it to me.

I can't find anywhere that will ship it to Australia for a reasonable price. So PriceUSA is your best bet.

Stores like NewEgg and tiger direct won't accept payment from your Australian credit card anyway.

The total cost to me was a little under $600 AUD to get the projector and have it forwarded to me.

Good luck!
post #1365 of 1711
All,

I have had my projector for 4 or 5 months now and I am finally getting around to using an old VHS tape (exercise tape ;-)). When it plays the projector loses synch over the HDMI input every 10 to 30 seconds and has to re-synch. The VHS is coming from a VHS/DVD unit into an Onkyo receiver, then the Onkyo is sending the signal over HDMI to the projector.

What can I do to resolve this synch issue?

Thanks,
Brian
post #1366 of 1711
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Originally Posted by BrianSnyder View Post

All,

I have had my projector for 4 or 5 months now and I am finally getting around to using an old VHS tape (exercise tape ;-)). When it plays the projector loses synch over the HDMI input every 10 to 30 seconds and has to re-synch. The VHS is coming from a VHS/DVD unit into an Onkyo receiver, then the Onkyo is sending the signal over HDMI to the projector.

What can I do to resolve this synch issue?

Thanks,
Brian

Put away the Christy Canyon or Savannah "exercise" tapes and move into the 21st century my man ;-) Just kidding, sorry couldn't resist. Anyway, it's probably the Onkyo needing a more solid sync signal to lock onto. You may need to try to convert these to DVD or file somehow to get them to play over HDMI, or connect a low-res video cable directly to the projector from the VHS deck. Good luck.
post #1367 of 1711
I have had to hookup the VCR's direct to the display via a single Yellow RCA for this to work . Not sure exactly what is going on, but that does seem to be the fix these days.
post #1368 of 1711
I am playing 1080p and 720p SBS 3D MKV files on my 3D HTPC and see ghosting effects in some players, not others. Need advice.

Setup:
AMD 4850e Dual Core CPU
Nvidia GT240
4Gb 1033Mhz RAM
1Tb SATA 3gbps HD
GA-MA78GM-S2HP Gigabyte motherboard
Audio from Optical cable to Pioneer vsx-1020-k HDMI 1.4a compat.
HDMI 1.3 cable to HDMI splitter, to Acer (was having no video through Pioneer and got frustrated)
Acer H5360 Projector ceiling mount
Optoma 3D shutter DLP link shutter glasses (aka no emitter)

Scenarios:
Player 1 - sView 2009 Player, settings: Shutter Glasses mode, SBS, L/R as is, 16:9 aspect
Result 1 - Perfect 3D, no ghosting, BUT stuttering and what appeared to be left/right sync shift. Almost like the projector got confused as it lost frames on whether it should be Left first or right first, going back and forth. All elements in frame near and far appear crisp and 'focused' SOOO CLOSE!

Player 2 - Power DVD 11, settings, 3D on, DLP Ready TV mode (is there another I missed?), tried left first and right first, tried all variations of HW accel on/off, etc
Results 2 - 3D effect with major ghosting. Only nearest object in the frame has a 3D effect, all background elements are ghosted and washed out. Interestingly I chose interlaced I think (it was late last night) and that somewhat appeared to fix it. Some stuttering.

Player 3 - Stereoscopic player, DLP Ready TV(another mode I should try?), tried left first and right first
Results 3 - 3D effect with major ghosting. Only nearest object in the frame has a 3D effect, all background elements are ghosted and washed out. Some stuttering.

One key difference is the 'shutter glasses' mode in sView 2009 vs. DLP Ready in PDVD 11 (Chkrbox?) The frame loss and stuttering may be causing the L/R sync freakout which could be underpowered CPU/lack of GPU accel or something else??? Can someone guide me on the best setup to watch 3D BR MKVs flawlessly(as close as possible) while taking advantage of the GPU capabilities of the GT240? MANY thanks in advance for your shared wisdom.

Do I need a CPU upgrade? That seems irrelevant to the ghosting I see in PDVD11 and SP from what I can tell. I will update this tonight if I see anything new or fix my observations. Please help.
post #1369 of 1711
Not really understanding from all the previous pages, so I have a question.
I don't own this or any projector, but looking to finish the basement and have a theater room down there. The reviews on Amazon state that for $500 this projector is great. Now for 3d bluray, can a PS3 be used or is it only able to show 3D using a capable PC? If so, what is needed?
Thanks in advance.
post #1370 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Stoney Jackson View Post

Not really understanding from all the previous pages, so I have a question.
I don't own this or any projector, but looking to finish the basement and have a theater room down there. The reviews on Amazon state that for $500 this projector is great. Now for 3d bluray, can a PS3 be used or is it only able to show 3D using a capable PC? If so, what is needed?
Thanks in advance.

You'll need the newer model H5360BD version to be able to attach to a 3d bluray player or PS3 directly using the hdmi 1.4 3d standard. Otherwise an adapter device is needed to connect the H5360
post #1371 of 1711
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Originally Posted by richbutler1 View Post

I am playing 1080p and 720p SBS 3D MKV files on my 3D HTPC and see ghosting effects in some players, not others. Need advice.

Well I read over that. Unfortunately I don't use DLP link at all. I went the route of a decent Nvidia card and 3d vision. Zero sync issues and I've never had ghosting with my setup. It's more expensive than DLP link but the picture is better (less wash out) and I don't have to worry about reversing the glasses.

What kind of light control do you have in the room and what kind of screen? Perhaps that is the issue as the DLP link needs to have white burst added in for timing. If you can I'd recommend you give the Nvidia 3d solution a try if all you are using is HTPC as it is considerably better.
post #1372 of 1711
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Originally Posted by richbutler1 View Post

I am playing 1080p and 720p SBS 3D MKV files on my 3D HTPC and see ghosting effects in some players, not others. Need advice.

Setup:
AMD 4850e Dual Core CPU
Nvidia GT240
4Gb 1033Mhz RAM
1Tb SATA 3gbps HD
GA-MA78GM-S2HP Gigabyte motherboard
Audio from Optical cable to Pioneer vsx-1020-k HDMI 1.4a compat.
HDMI 1.3 cable to HDMI splitter, to Acer (was having no video through Pioneer and got frustrated)
Acer H5360 Projector ceiling mount
Optoma 3D shutter DLP link shutter glasses (aka no emitter)

Scenarios:
Player 1 - sView 2009 Player, settings: Shutter Glasses mode, SBS, L/R as is, 16:9 aspect
Result 1 - Perfect 3D, no ghosting, BUT stuttering and what appeared to be left/right sync shift. Almost like the projector got confused as it lost frames on whether it should be Left first or right first, going back and forth. All elements in frame near and far appear crisp and 'focused' SOOO CLOSE!

Player 2 - Power DVD 11, settings, 3D on, DLP Ready TV mode (is there another I missed?), tried left first and right first, tried all variations of HW accel on/off, etc
Results 2 - 3D effect with major ghosting. Only nearest object in the frame has a 3D effect, all background elements are ghosted and washed out. Interestingly I chose interlaced I think (it was late last night) and that somewhat appeared to fix it. Some stuttering.

Player 3 - Stereoscopic player, DLP Ready TV(another mode I should try?), tried left first and right first
Results 3 - 3D effect with major ghosting. Only nearest object in the frame has a 3D effect, all background elements are ghosted and washed out. Some stuttering.


One key difference is the 'shutter glasses' mode in sView 2009 vs. DLP Ready in PDVD 11 (Chkrbox?) The frame loss and stuttering may be causing the L/R sync freakout which could be underpowered CPU/lack of GPU accel or something else??? Can someone guide me on the best setup to watch 3D BR MKVs flawlessly(as close as possible) while taking advantage of the GPU capabilities of the GT240? MANY thanks in advance for your shared wisdom.

Do I need a CPU upgrade? That seems irrelevant to the ghosting I see in PDVD11 and SP from what I can tell. I will update this tonight if I see anything new or fix my observations. Please help.

To use stereoscopic player to view your sbs 3d files.
Set File->Layout->Side by Side,Left Image First, then go to View->Viewing Method->Software Pageflipping.
That's it,you should have a decent 3d,the reason for your problem i presume is because you chose the wrong output mode,it should be 'software pageflipping' and not 'DLP Ready TV'.
post #1373 of 1711
To anyone interested, Cheetah Deals currently has 3 refurbished H5360's in stock.

Just picked one up myself, and realized I've got a question...I currently use a Sony HTSS360 "home theater in a box" receiver. I have my cablebox/ps3/PC all going into the receiver and 1 50ft HDMI run to my projector. Will I be able to send a 120hz signal to the projector through this receiver? I'm more concerned with true 120hz gaming than I am 3D, as currently I don't even have the gear for 3D.

Thanks!
post #1374 of 1711
You'd have to try it to find out since I can't find receiver specs. If it doesn't work, you could output dvi to projector and use the hdmi for audio only to the receiver. I can't find specs on what receiver is included in that home theater in the box.
post #1375 of 1711
Yeah I may need to do that. For my PC I actually use optical for audio, so even easier...

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...pl?mdl=HTSS360

Found that on Sony's website, but it doesn't have any mention of 3D or 120hz since this model is from 2009...I'll be sure to test it this weekend once it comes in and post it here for future reference.
post #1376 of 1711
Hi just recently got the 5360 and displayer then bought the ultraclear ir glasses with batteries and emitter. i am having trouble getting 3d. the projector shows 720p 120 hz end the emitter light is on and the picture shows a double picture.
the glasses power light comes on for 3 sec when pressed for 2 sec. should it stay on?2 pairs of glasses act the same way. thanks in advance.
post #1377 of 1711
I also had trouble with the exact same setup. The only thing that worked was to keep unplugging the Displayer's power plug until it worked. It's as if the displayer isn't sending the IR info. You need to wake it up. Irritating I know. I eventually got the 3dxl.
post #1378 of 1711
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Originally Posted by johnsmith808 View Post
I also had trouble with the exact same setup. The only thing that worked was to keep unplugging the Displayer's power plug until it worked. It's as if the displayer isn't sending the IR info. You need to wake it up. Irritating I know. I eventually got the 3dxl.
Make sure you have a 1amp rated power supply for the displayer or the emitter will not function correctly. It could also be that the emitter isn't. Compatible,

I have the Theatre unit with the RF glasses/emitter and the 5360 and its rock solid. Syncs up immediately every time. Auto syncs to SBS and top/bottom too. Never have to touch a thing it just works.
post #1379 of 1711
yes it has a 1 amp powerpak supply
post #1380 of 1711
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Originally Posted by jeffwp View Post

yes it has a 1 amp powerpak supply

You can't sit too far away from the emitter. You need good line of sight and if your walls are dark colored it may even be worse. That is why I went right for the RF glasses. Never lose sync. I can go get a beer with the glasses on and they keep working at the other end of my house. LOL
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