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post #1381 of 1760
ok i got it to work by switching the displayer off and on. sometimes i have to use this trick to invert the sync, i thought sync invert was only a need in dlp link.

to john smith.......did your emitter function ok with the 3dxl and thus prove the displayer at fault? also does the 3dxl allow you to do sync invert with the ultraclear ir glasses?
post #1382 of 1760
I use a ps3 for 3D on Bluray and never have to change sync polarity. Now with my monoprice converter I sometimes have reversed sync and I just press the reset buttion on my 5360 and sync is fixed.
post #1383 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

I use a ps3 for 3D on Bluray and never have to change sync polarity. Now with my monoprice converter I sometimes have reversed sync and I just press the reset buttion on my 5360 and sync is fixed.

is this reset button on the remote and called resync??
post #1384 of 1760
button 6 as far I remember, cuts off the signal to pick it up again
post #1385 of 1760
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Originally Posted by jeffwp View Post

ok i got it to work by switching the displayer off and on. sometimes i have to use this trick to invert the sync, i thought sync invert was only a need in dlp link.

to john smith.......did your emitter function ok with the 3dxl and thus prove the displayer at fault? also does the 3dxl allow you to do sync invert with the ultraclear ir glasses?

Yes the emitter works perfectly with the 3dxl. I honestly never had to invert the sync with the 3dxl and ir.
post #1386 of 1760
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Originally Posted by jeffwp View Post

is this reset button on the remote and called resync??

That is correct!
post #1387 of 1760
Hello everyone.

I just ordered the Acer H5360 the enter the 3D magic but have a few questions with the setup. Ive I´ve been reading your posts but I would like your opinion, please.
I have a Pc (i5 750, 4gb Ram, 2 Ati 5850 in crossfire, X-Fi Gamer, SSD, etc) that will be 7 meters (23 feet) from the projector. I have it connected to my TV (DVI -» HDMI Cable for the audio and a Mini Jack -» RCA for the sound), and from the tv theres a optical cable to my Sony DVD/Home Cinema.

1- Can I keep that setup for the audio? I believe I read someone saying that if it is in dual display in "clone" mode the sound would be ok, but that someone say to use an dvi-»hdmi cable to the AVR. My home cinema has no HDMI connections...

2- Whats the best way to connect my graphic cards the projector? Dvi-
»Hdmi cable ou DVI-»VGA cable?

3- The projector will be in the ceiling, 2,7m (8,8 feet) from the ground, and 2,7m (8,7 feet) from the screen. In Acer website their projection calculator says the screen will be 203cm (80inch) diagonal. What screen should I buy)? I have read people talking about the Da-lite HighPower but the Guide to Selecting Front Projection Screens from Da-Lite website says I should get a Matte White, because is projector will be in the ceiling. Can you please advice me on a screen?

Thanks to everyone in advance. I look foward to enter the 3D world.

André
post #1388 of 1760
i am going to buy this projector and 93" screen.

i have this right now:

amd Pii x3 720
570gtx vidoe card


do i need to buy a convertor box like vip theater in order to play 3d bluray from the pc? do i need to get convertor box in order to get 3d programming.
post #1389 of 1760
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post
i am going to buy this projector and 93" screen.

i have this right now:

amd Pii x3 720
570gtx vidoe card


do i need to buy a convertor box like vip theater in order to play 3d bluray from the pc? do i need to get convertor box in order to get 3d programming.
i think the first question is why are you buying this? the gt750E from optoma is a much better solution imho. you get a choice of glasses, and you have much more possibilities, if you buy the converter box, you might as well get the projector that does this all anyway.

as for watching 3d bluray, no you woudln't need a converter box, you would need something that can play 3d bluray like TMT 5 and I believe you would need to activate nvidia vision with their glasses or a workaround.
post #1390 of 1760
Anyone know the universal remote code for this projector?
post #1391 of 1760
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Originally Posted by robl45 View Post
i think the first question is why are you buying this? the gt750E from optoma is a much better solution imho. you get a choice of glasses, and you have much more possibilities, if you buy the converter box, you might as well get the projector that does this all anyway.

as for watching 3d bluray, no you woudln't need a converter box, you would need something that can play 3d bluray like TMT 5 and I believe you would need to activate nvidia vision with their glasses or a workaround.
will i still get 1080p 3d or get 720p 3d if i play 3d bluray?

what is the difference between gt750e and HD33/3300 ?
post #1392 of 1760
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

will i still get 1080p 3d or get 720p 3d if i play 3d bluray?

what is the difference between gt750e and HD33/3300 ?

this projector is a 720P projector, thats the best you are going to get, by the time you add the price of a converter, thats 500 for projector, plus 300 or more for converter, its cheaper to buy a gt750E. both are 720P projectors. hd33 is 1080p and twice the price.

if strictly viewing from a computer with nvidia vision then this would probably be a good deal, but then you can't use your cable box or anything else.
post #1393 of 1760
What screen should I get and at what distance from the ceiling should the projector be?
post #1394 of 1760
i am wondering if i buy a hdmi 1.4a receiver, can this pj plug into the receiver then to the pc or not?

also i want to know if i can plug hdmi 1.4a cable into pj to the 3d-xl or not?

do i need receiver that support 720p/120hz in order to work with this projector?

how is the picture on 3d? good or bad?
post #1395 of 1760
help me
post #1396 of 1760
Quote:
Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

i am wondering if i buy a hdmi 1.4a receiver, can this pj plug into the receiver then to the pc or not?

also i want to know if i can plug hdmi 1.4a cable into pj to the 3d-xl or not?

do i need receiver that support 720p/120hz in order to work with this projector?

how is the picture on 3d? good or bad?

I also asked about good screens for 2D and 3D with this projector but no one answered.
I dont have that projector but read a lot of foruns about it but ended up buying the new Benq W700 Projector
- I believe you can connect the 1.4hdm cable to the the optoma box, its they only way to connect the projector to 3D Blueray and 3D Playstation 3.
- Regarding the receiver, it has to support 120hz, but some readers said they could do it with a receiver that was not 120hz. I think they had to edit a registry file in windows so it would think the receiver was acctually the Acer H5360.
- As for your last question, the majority says the Acer has mediocre 2D image (some of them have a 1080p good 2D projector just to watch 2D) but a very good 3D image. Thats why I bought the Benq W700, launched in August 2011, Its supposed to have a better 2D image than the Acer, it should arrive Tuesday by mail, I cant wait of it.

Andre
post #1397 of 1760
I just bought a laptop with blu-ray drive A6-3400M CPU, 6520 radeon video. Can I use this laptop to play 3D movie with Acer H5360 ?

I don't want to buy 3d-xl or vp3d1 just for this. Then buying HD33 seems like a better option. Anyone tried it yet ?
post #1398 of 1760
Do you guys have any good screenshots of 2d content? I've looked through the whole thread and only seen a few. I'd like to get an idea of the image quality. Anyone have any good ones?
post #1399 of 1760
No screens here, but with a good screen, it looks awesome in HD. Always been picky when it comes to audio and picture quality and I sold my TV for this and don't regret it one bit.
post #1400 of 1760
Mine has a few blurry areas in the middle, possibly bad optics. Setup is easy-peasy, with one twist of the lens it's in focus everywhere except these few areas (I read web with it, and can see the areas in the text.)
post #1401 of 1760
My cousin saw my HT setup for the 1st time and the bug bit him hard. He picked up all of his audio parts but now needs the video.

He really seems to like the 5360. He is only interested in the 2D viewing. He will have controlled lighting with alittle ambient lighting when pitch black is not wanted.

The room dimensions are akward. The front wall is about 15' high with a sloping ceiling that ends on the far wall at about 8'. He is looking to throw a 120" picture from 23' and the unit will be 7'6" off the floor on a shelf. His seating is 19' from the wall. THe wall is painted white and in the near future will have either a mounted screen or a DIY painter version.

So the questions are;
1) Good enough for 2d.
2) Can you have with proper zooming a unit at 23' for a 120" picture
3) Would we need to invert the projector

He wants to order a projector today. If you feel this unit won't work, any recommendations?
post #1402 of 1760
Okay, I see not much help on this forum anymore for new ACER owners or prespective owner so I will try to help. As a disclaimer, I have an ACER H5360 which I've used with a PC for excellent 3D (and 2D), while maintaining a Mits H3800 (1080p) for just 2D. I have since sold the Mits and bought an Optoma HD3300 (1080p) for both 2D and 3D. (The ACER is currently up for sale in AVS classifieds.)

That said, the ACER is an excellent first choice to get into 3D when using a PC or going through a converter such as the Optoma 3D-XL--medium priced but good reviews, Viewsonic VP3D1--which I have used and relatively cheap and the VIP Theatre-expensive but lots of features. For 3D, the ACER is typically chosen over rivals such as the Optoma HD66 for it's perfect 3D image, color pop, and brightness--but that's arguable.

It works with DLPlink shutter glasses as well as nVidia 3D vision. Each has it's following. For DLPlink, which I like, 3D Heaven shutter glasses work great (and they are cheap) as well as Optoma and others (google search).

For PC, you'll need a nVidia GT500 series based card for nVidia 3D vision which is great for gaming, or an AMD Radeon 6000 series based card for dlplink, which is great for all-around viewing. Also the latest drivers. Check the early part of this thread for information how to set that up--also check out the Optoma HD66 thread for good info as well, since lot of what needs to happen at the PC end applies to both projectors.

For screen type to maximize 3D enjoyment--most 1.0 gain screens will work up to 120". The more screen gain, the better for 3D since the glasses reduce lumens more than half. I use a DIY 142" 1.3 gain screen and it looks great on that. For outstanding 3D brightness, many buy a Dalite High Power screen--the screen is retroreflective meaning the light reflects to the source, so it's perfect for table mounted projectors, however it will work with ceiling mounted projectors, but the 2.4 gain reduces to about 1.4-1.8 depending how low from the ceiling the projector is mounted. I do NOT recommend any grey screens or screens less than 1.0 gain. While they do justice to 2D images (e.g. increase black levels), they will cut light gain too much for 3D.

For screen size and projector distance: Best to use this calculator (also info in the manual which you can download--ftp://ftp.acer-euro.com/projector/h5360/manual/H5360user_enu.pdf).

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Acer...ulator-pro.htm

You'll see for a 120" screen, 14' is about max distance. 23' would not work for that screen size--the image would be about 194" diagonal.

The projector, when mounted to the ceiling is required to be upside down, so that the keystoning is reduced. If mounted right-side up on a shelf near the ceiling the projector would have to be tilted down with lots of keystone. Reason being the image on these projectors and most theater projectors is offset from the lens so the bottom of the image when projected is above (or below if ceiling mounted) the projector--see the manual for offset information.

As for 2D content. It compares ok to other 720p projectors for the price, but don't expect miracles. When used in low-lamp mode and correctly adjusted for contrast and brightness, it's quite nice. Problem is most people adjust for maximum brightness and high-lamp mode for 3D, and this makes 2D pretty unwatchable if you like film-like contrast--but again this can be adjusted.

You'll find for 3D, the resolution looks higher than 720p--it's a mind trick when combining two 720p images that are slightly different for each eye and the black levels look okay. You can select different gamma levels, which will give you the best black levels and contrast through the menu--see manual.

As for audio/video pass-through a 1.4 receiver. Best to get a receiver that others have tested that works, or you take your chances, and there is a way to fake a PC into thinking it's seeing the receiver as a projector but requires a PC registry update I think--best left to those who are really into tinkering with their PCs. Getting the ACER (or any other 3D ready projector) to work with a PC is going to be frustrating if you are not a PC nut willing to try things and do registry updates, etc. (as I've found out).

For PC software to watch 3D blu-ray, check out PowerDVD Ultra 11 from cyberlink, and Total Media Theatre (TMT) 5 from Arcsoft. These are the two that are used most. I've had the best luck with TMT 5. It can be hit or miss, though, depending on how your PC is setup--and that journey is a whole other discussion. In the end I recommend you get a 3D blu-ray player and a converter rather than a PC, IF you are not willing to tinker and spend many hours getting your PC to work--you've been warned.

Also, don't confuse the ACER H5360 3D ready projector for the ACER H5360BD 1.4 compliant projector with the 3D processor built-in--it's only sold in Europe these days and never made it to the US market.

Also, when the projector is mounted properly, overall focus is excellent with slight differences between the center and the outer parts of the image, which is normal for this projector lens. If you are experiencing non-uniform focus from one side to the other, then the projector is probably not aligned correctly with the screen (e.g. mounted off to one side). This will also make one side fo the image appear wider than the other.
post #1403 of 1760
Thanks for that info. Looks like I need to find another unit then.
post #1404 of 1760
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Originally Posted by pyro383 View Post

Thanks for that info. Looks like I need to find another unit then.

It will be tough, if not impossible to find a projector with that much zoom ratio unless you either get a business projector (not meant for movies) or a higher-end projector (big bucks). I'd post a thread in the Under $3000 projector forum and inquire about projectors that can through to 120" screen from 23 feet. You should get a response.
post #1405 of 1760
120" at 23'???? Now, I have to say? I generally mount projectors at the closest distance with max zoom to get a couple a extra clicks of brightness out of it.

Mount the PJ closer is my suggestion.
post #1406 of 1760
I could put it on a bookcase behind the seating which is 19' and go to a 130" screen. So according to the calculator I would be 3' past the prime distance and could make it up with the zoom??
post #1407 of 1760
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyro383 View Post

I could put it on a bookcase behind the seating which is 19' and go to a 130" screen. So according to the calculator I would be 3' past the prime distance and could make it up with the zoom??

Zoom range for a 130" screen is 14'7" to 15'11" give or take an inch. This projector can only zoom a little. At 19' you are talking around a 155" screen as the smallest you could go. 14'7 to 15' would be recommended for a 130" screen. At 19' you just wouldn't have the brightness needed for 3D on such a large screen (okay I reread your reply and you stated it would only be used for 2D, then a large screen for 2D would work). The only option I see on a slanted ceiling is an extended ceiling mount (see monoprice.com) to lower the projector to around 8 feet from the floor at around 15' which I'm guessing the ceiling is about 11' high, so you'd need a 3' extension. Of course running cables to the projector would be you greatest challenge, but not impossible.
post #1408 of 1760
Right now his budget is $1100. We got to talking and we may move the seating up a bit so as to get the projector in under 19'. But it seems that that Acer is not what we should be looking at, at this time.
post #1409 of 1760
How about hanging it from the ceiling? Find the optimal position(s) using the bookshelf, then hang it there in front of and above the seating.
post #1410 of 1760
Thread is starting to die lately xD

Quick question for any owner that might use the acer with a 3D-XL: optoma's official site says it is compatible with firmware a04; did anyone test different firmwares?

I'm running A08. I'll ask in the 3dxl thread too, just to be sure.

Thanks a lot.
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