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post #211 of 1760
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Originally Posted by riceboii911 View Post

Hi,

I just bought this projector and have been hearing that watching 3D is amazing on the Da-Lite HP screens. Can someone please tell me if this will be the best one to get for 3d movies? I'm hoping to only spend about $600.

Da-Lite 58x104 Model C - High Power Fabric - HDTV Format Projector Screen - 79045

Thanks!

I had a 92" Dalite Model C and recently upgraded to larger fixed frame. You picked a nice screen as long as it fits in your room. Remember for maximum gain, you need to place the projector as close to eye level as possible. There is very little zoom on the Acer so you have to be flexible where you can place the projector.

what PC setup are you using to run the projector?
post #212 of 1760
That's great to hear! I'll have to order that screen soon then if my graywolf II 1.8 gain screen doesn't impress me.

I myself pre-ordered the rs40 for the 3d but am leaning towards requesting that I be sent one from the 2nd batch since I want to wait to see what others say about its performance vs the 3d on the Acer. I currently also own the optoma hd80 10980p projector, so if I end up canceling my rs40 order then I'll just keep the optoma for 2d movies, though I was hoping for a nice 2d upgrade with the rs40. Switching back and forth with 2 projectors is kind of a pain though. I get the Acer tomorrow so will be able to test it woohoo

the htpc I am running is custom built with these specs:
antec fusion case
core 2 quad q6600 2.4ghz
4gb ddr2 ram
gtx460 video card
3d vision kit
powerdvd 10

I've been using this htpc with my panasonic 3d plasma and it works nicely!
and you Jason/zombie10k, what's your htpc?
post #213 of 1760
riceboii911 -- Per what zombie10k said, you have to place the H5360 between 13' 5" and 14' 8" from that screen and on a shelf that puts the H5360 lens center below the bottom of the bottom of the viewable screen lower edge (13.2% x 58" = about 7 3/4"). Otherwise, you won't be able to take advantage of the HP screen's gain. Ceiling mounting the H5360 will drop the effective HP screen gain by around 36% (plus you will get a lot of reflected light off your ceiling - bad news, if it is white colored).
post #214 of 1760
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

If I already had an RS20 or 25, I would have considered just running a dual projector setup. I wouldn't use the Acer for 2D, I am way too sensitive to RBE although it's reduced in 3D mode, I can still see it from time to time.

The RS40 will hopefully be close in lumens output to the ACER which I believe projector central rated ~700 in 3D mode. I'll have to decide if the ghosting on the JVC is worse than seeing RBE here and there on the Acer.

when it gets here I will be shouting from the rooftop letting folks know what I think between these two very different projectors.

Sounds good, and looking forward to your thoughts.
post #215 of 1760
I bought the Acer last week from Amazon and I picked up the Optoma GT720 this weekend from best buy to do a small throw-down.

I don't have a lot of time but IMO, the Acer wins hands-down to the Optoma in 2D. In 3D, they both look equally as good and in some cases I think the Optoma is better because you can tweak more settings while in 3D mode.

If I were to keep one it would be the Acer, but for some reason it will not retain my settings when I turn it off and on and the throw isn't working in my room. I am going to try the Optoma HD67 just to compare the three even though the HD and Acer are almost exactly the same. I am hoping the Optoma has the tweaking features the GT720 does which would make it a keeper regardless of the throw size.

3D is quite amazing on these things and I had to show my wife the receipt from Amazon to prove this is a $600 projector I also have the RS40 on pre-order and hopefully will be getting it in a couple weeks. 3D on my 1.0 gain screen with the Acer and Optoma worked fine in a batcave-type setting. The light output was not an issue with the Viewsonic DLP link glasses or Nvidia glasses.
post #216 of 1760
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Originally Posted by CT_Wiebe View Post

riceboii911 -- Per what zombie10k said, you have to place the H5360 between 13' 5" and 14' 8" from that screen and on a shelf that puts the H5360 lens center below the bottom of the bottom of the viewable screen lower edge (13.2% x 58" = about 7 3/4"). Otherwise, you won't be able to take advantage of the HP screen's gain. Ceiling mounting the H5360 will drop the effective HP screen gain by around 36% (plus you will get a lot of reflected light off your ceiling - bad news, if it is white colored).

CT,

Thanks for explaining in further detail. I can see how the screen does require such a specific setup that it doesnt work for everyone. hmmm..I'm about 16 ft away from my screen so I might have to move closer then. What does worry me then is the placement on the shelf...on my current projector which I have on a shelf behind me, so it's not ceiling mounted, I have the lens center at about the middle of the viewable screen, so do you guys think it's still worth it for me to go with the da-lite hp?
post #217 of 1760
So... There is no horizontal keystone correction at all ?
post #218 of 1760
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Originally Posted by sanychsamara View Post

So... There is no horizontal keystone correction at all ?

no, but the vertical keystone is automatic and it works.
post #219 of 1760
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Originally Posted by jmalto View Post
If I were to keep one it would be the Acer, but for some reason it will not retain my settings when I turn it off and on and the throw isn't working in my room.
are you making changes to 'USER' mode or the built in settings? I was making the changes to Cinema, etc and it wouldn't keep the settings. Once I set the user mode to my preferences, it does stay the same after turning it off.
post #220 of 1760
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Originally Posted by riceboii911 View Post
What does worry me then is the placement on the shelf...on my current projector which I have on a shelf behind me, so it's not ceiling mounted, I have the lens center at about the middle of the viewable screen, so do you guys think it's still worth it for me to go with the da-lite hp?
that should be a fine location for the projector and the HP screen. When you are sitting down, how far above the head is the projector?

the HTPC I have is just a dell workstation, Core i5, 8 GB, WIN 7 64bit & the Nvidia GT430 + Powerdvd 10. I am using an ISO daemon to mount 15 different BD's at a time and selecting each drive through the cinema mode of powerdvd in Media Center.

not bad, but I do wish there was a single device that can handle the 2D and 3D BD's. I use a Popcorn hour C200 for all my 2D content and the MCE machine for TV & 3D BD for now.
post #221 of 1760
The deal is back at New Egg so I picked one up. I do have a few questions. I don't have a HTPC. I do have a PS3 though. Am I better waiting for the Optima box or building a HTPC? How cheaply can I build a HTPC? Do both systems use the same glasses?

Thanks in advance.

One more question. I have a 5 year old Panasonic AE900 at the moment. How would the acer compete in 2d with my Panasonic?
post #222 of 1760
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Originally Posted by 68sting View Post

One more question. I have a 5 year old Panasonic AE900 at the moment. How would the acer compete in 2d with my Panasonic?

I'd like to know as well but comparing the 5360 to my Sanyo PLV-Z5.


dbl
post #223 of 1760
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Originally Posted by 68sting View Post

The deal is back at New Egg so I picked one up. I do have a few questions. I don't have a HTPC. I do have a PS3 though. Am I better waiting for the Optima box or building a HTPC? How cheaply can I build a HTPC? Do both systems use the same glasses?

it depends on how bad you want to play 3D games/movies on the PS3. it's the only way with the Optoma box.

it looks like the Optoma XL is listing @ $499 and should come with 2 pairs of glasses. If I were to guess, they are probably DLP Link capable glasses which aren't the same as the Nvidia. I do recall someone mentioning that the DLP link glasses causes a greater hit to light loss than the Nvidia IR emitter and Nvidia Glasses setup. Something to consider depending on what screen size / material you are using in 3D mode.

For my choice I went with an HTPC and an Nvidia GT430 card (cheap ~$79) which works great. Mainly because I want HD audio with all my 3D content. The Nvidia card provides HD audio on both the HDMI and DVI output, so I can run one output to the receiver, the other to the projector.
post #224 of 1760
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

it depends on how bad you want to play 3D games/movies on the PS3. it's the only way with the Optoma box.

it looks like the Optoma XL is listing @ $499 and should come with 2 pairs of glasses. If I were to guess, they are probably DLP Link capable glasses which aren't the same as the Nvidia. I do recall someone mentioning that the DLP link glasses causes a greater hit to light loss than the Nvidia IR emitter and Nvidia Glasses setup. Something to consider depending on what screen size / material you are using in 3D mode.

For my choice I went with an HTPC and an Nvidia GT430 card (cheap ~$79) which works great. Mainly because I want HD audio with all my 3D content. The Nvidia card provides HD audio on both the HDMI and DVI output, so I can run one output to the receiver, the other to the projector.

Strange, I've been reading the opposite. The DLP link glasses are supposed to let through more light than the Nvidia.
post #225 of 1760
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Originally Posted by riceboii911 View Post
I can see how the screen does require such a specific setup that it doesnt work for everyone. hmmm..I'm about 16 ft away from my screen so I might have to move closer then. What does worry me then is the placement on the shelf...on my current projector which I have on a shelf behind me, so it's not ceiling mounted, I have the lens center at about the middle of the viewable screen, so do you guys think it's still worth it for me to go with the da-lite hp?
My Acer is ceiling mounted; however, I chose a mount with an extension so the projector is lowered a couple of feet. I probably lose a little of the HP's gain, but it works very, very well. Another big advantage of this screen is that because it is retro-reflective it does NOT show any wrinkles or waves in the screen! I didn't have much choice but to ceiling mount it right above my head since I have a Sony G90 CRT projector floor mounted in front of my seating position and an Epson 9500 shelf mounted behind me. I'm surrounded!

IMO, the HP is superior to any other screen I've used, even if the positioning of the projector isn't ideal. Don't write off this screen just because you can't put the projector close to head height!

Here's the thing - many people can't afford a JVC or Sony 3D solution, but would really like 3D in the home. These little 720p 3D DLPs are tougher to set up and don't have all the bells and whistles; however, once working with the right screen they provide an exemplary 3D image which far exceeds their pay grade. I have yet to see any "ghosting" and the solid, punchy 3D image has me sold on this projector technology and 3D. Will the Sonys and JVCs be better? For sure. Will they be 7 to 20 times better? Not a chance and if "ghosting" is a problem for them then we'll probably see a resurgence of DLP projectors, including 1080p DLPs, for 3D. I think 3D is going to look as good, or nearly as good, from the cheap seats as it's going to look from the expensive seats and letting people know that is what, IMO, this forum is all about.

I have one pair of DLP link glasses on order so I can see for myself how they stack up to the Nvidia ones.
post #226 of 1760
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Originally Posted by NickB View Post
Strange, I've been reading the opposite. The DLP link glasses are supposed to let through more light than the Nvidia.
I've read some conflicting things on DLP link image quality. Doesn't it use a white flash to sync the glasses? Wouldn't this give the perception of reduced contrast or wash out the image? I thought it'd be similar to having the clear segment on in the color wheel.
post #227 of 1760
Deja Vu
What model is your projector mount? My unit just came in and I am also considering the HP screen.
post #228 of 1760
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Originally Posted by tyee View Post

Deja Vu
What model is your projector mount? My unit just came in and I am also considering the HP screen.

I ordered it from Ebay - it's a Universal LCD ceiling flush mount bracket DLP. Seems to work well with a various length setting and horizontal and vertical adjustment.

With respect to the DLP link glasses I've heard differing views. Go over to the 3D section and check out the 3D glasses threads.
post #229 of 1760
Back in stock and u can buy this projector for 480 at newegg with code for today only. Was going to get the hd66 but u can't beat the price. With the optoma adapter costing 500 guess i'm going to go the htpc 3d way. Does anyone know if the cablecard tuners (ceton or homerun) can support 3d broadcasts. and which is a better option. Nvidia glasses or dlp glasses?
post #230 of 1760
Thanks Deja Vu. If you have a link PM me.

Anyone know if our HDMI 1.3 receivers will pass the 3D 120Hz 720p signal to these projectors?
post #231 of 1760
Two more pics:

post #232 of 1760
Is this the right card?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=G458-0430

The right software?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...R3VC53H2FAWM7C

What do I need for a bluray player?
post #233 of 1760
To retain your settings you use "user" mode and the next time you start your projector up your previous settings will be there. This works for both 2D and 3D. It seems many owners got upset that their settings weren't retained because they didn't know that only the "User" mode holds them when the projector is shut off and then powered up again.
post #234 of 1760
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Originally Posted by tyee View Post

Thanks Deja Vu. If you have a link PM me.

Anyone know if our HDMI 1.3 receivers will pass the 3D 120Hz 720p signal to these projectors?

My Pioneer SC-07 will not. In order for my HTPC to recognize the 120hz 3D DLP projector via the Nvidia software, I have to do the following on my Nvidia GT430:

HDMI output- > Projector

DVI out- > HDMI Converter -> Pioneer SC-07

The PC can now read the EDID information and allow the software to handle the 3D modes to the projector. The DVI passes the HD audio to the Pioneer receiver. I am going to run the same setup when my JVC RS40 arrives, I don't see a need for a dedicated 3DBD player when I have the HTPC and 10TB of NAS storage.
post #235 of 1760
I only have S/PDIF optical inputs on my receiver. Will I be able to get audio with an ASRock Vision 3d pc/PowerDVD with this receiver? If so, what will be the settings in PowerDVD?
post #236 of 1760
zombie10k
Thanks for the info. We can also play BR discs from the HTPC using TMT or PowerDVD can't we?? I thought I read that somewhere this is easily possible. It's when we want to use an external BR player then we have to buy that optoma box coming out in January, yes??
post #237 of 1760
tyee -- AVRs with HDMI 1.3, or less, can't pass 3D. HDMI 1.4/1.4a is required for them to handle 3D video. I'm not going to upgrade my PJ for another year, so the H5360 would be my choice, if I need a "3D fix". I'm as sensitive to RBE as zombie10k is, if not a tad more.

If you don't want to use a HTPC, then you will need the Optoma box. With parts from Newegg, I should be able to build a single purpose HTPC for around $400 (see the AVS HTPC threads). I already have Windows 7, so that saves that cost. for me.

However, I already have a pre-release Oppo BDP-93 (with 3D playback capability and 2 HDMI outputs), so I can use it for my 3D source and run the HDMI-2 output to my existing AVR (HDMI 1.3). Therefore, it is a financial toss-up between building a HTPC and waiting for the Optoma box. If the Nvidia kit works better than the Optoma version, then that would be the deciding factor.
post #238 of 1760
So I run Stereoscopic player from my HTPC, with a 3D enabled video card, HDMI 1 out directly to the ACER H5360. I run HDMI 2 (or DVI) output to my 1.3 receiver for audio. I use the D-Link glasses and I'm all set, yes??
post #239 of 1760
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Originally Posted by tyee View Post

So I run Stereoscopic player from my HTPC, with a 3D enabled video card, HDMI 1 out directly to the ACER H5360. I run HDMI 2 (or DVI) output to my 1.3 receiver for audio. I use the D-Link glasses and I'm all set, yes??

yes, in a nutshell. I have set up in a similar way. This PJ is strictly for 3D use for me. my RS1 is my main movie PJ (although I'm quite jealous of the Acer, it being all bright and all). Anyway, I have the geforce 460 mini going to the Onkyo 876 (for sound) then the DVI to HDMI to the Acer and lastly the HDMI from the Onkyo to the RS1. I also have a PS3 in the mix for my main movie watching but I've lately been testing out the HTPC for regular movie watching. so far so good. Anyway, the RS1 is fine in most cases. However, I have to unplug the Acer HDMI before using the RS1 to avoid any issues. When using the Acer, I have to boot everything up as normal but then the Onkyo still detects the RS1 even though it's powered off (so I have 2 virtual screen, 1 seen, 1 unseen). Simply turning the Onkyo off, allowing the video to fix itself, then turning it back on and the picture remains on the Acer.

So yes to your question and is there anyone out there with a similar setup with an easier fix?

Lastly, my choice of player is PowerDVD due to the HD audio working where for some reason, TMT3 does not.
post #240 of 1760
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Originally Posted by lsdavinci View Post

yes, in a nutshell. I have set up in a similar way. .

And your DLPlink glasses--do they work well? Do you notice a contrast hit because of the white flashing signal that the glasses use to sync with?
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