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post #391 of 1760
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Originally Posted by PE06MCG View Post

Many Thanks Bob.

Have just looked at my laptop and the 1280 x 720 is no problem but it only outputs at 60 Hz or 50 Hz.

You anticipated this, is there a way round it?
Is this the reason to attempt to disable it?

Incidentally, have just downloaded latest PDVD10 update which seems to be PowerDVD 10 Mark II Ultra 3D build 2325 dated nov this year. Is this the one?

Ya, pretty sure you need to output 120Hz to get 3D out of a 720p 120Hz projector. Just tried playing mine with 720p 60Hz and the screen goes black (green actually) when the movie starts. If you plug in the projector and disable the laptop's screen maybe you can get 720p 120Hz, I do not know and I don't have a laptop handy to try it.
http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dlaptops.html
post #392 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post

Ya, pretty sure you need to output 120Hz to get 3D out of a 720p 120Hz projector. Just tried playing mine with 720p 60Hz and the screen goes black (green actually) when the movie starts. If you plug in the projector and disable the laptop's screen maybe you can get 720p 120Hz, I do not know and I don't have a laptop handy to try it.
http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dlaptops.html

Thanks again Bob.

Will try to disable screen as you suggest.

Incidentally, the Sony outputs its signal via an HDMI connection, forgive my ignorance but is the problem that the 120Hz output is converted to 60Hz for laptop display or is it just not allowed to be generated at this frequency by my laptop?
post #393 of 1760
It is just the screen won't do 120Hz even though the graphics chip may be capable. You could clone (dual display) both the laptop screen and projector @ 1280 x 720p 60 Hz, disable the laptop screen and then change the frequency to 120Hz. The 120Hz option won't show for the laptop screen and don't know what would happen if you set each to different Hz.
post #394 of 1760
Ok my setup is almost completed... the projector is running just fine, HTPC is up and running!

Now it's time for 3D but I don't really know where to start...

First I don't know if I should go with the Nvidia 3D Vision or go simply with DLP-Link glasses like the Optoma or the viewsonic. what are the pros and cons between these 2 options??

Nvidia 3d vision looks pretty easy to setup... but what about picture quality?

Thanks
post #395 of 1760
I'm almost ready too.

Quick question, can't remember why we have to use the video card HDMI and DVI outputs at the same time to feed our AVR and Projector. Yes, I know one will feed the video and one the audio but isn't this HDMI output only 1.3 not 1.4, so can't we just feed the HDMI output to the AVR then the AVR to the Projector? This way the HDMI is outputting 1.3 at 120Hz plus lossless audio. I think it can work???
post #396 of 1760
Depends on your receiver - mine won't pass 120hz signals at all (and it's a 1.4 receiver :P )
post #397 of 1760
I don't know of any avr's passing 120hz anything. It's not in the HDTV spec, so I don't hold it against them.
post #398 of 1760
Thanks for the answer guys. Good thing I ordered a monoprice 3D ready hdmi switcher I will pick up tomorrow. AVR to one input and computer to the other. I will wire the audio hdmi directly to the AVR.
post #399 of 1760
Well i went out and purchased a H5360 from Newegg to shoot out against a infocus sp7210.

I well say the acer looked real nice but wasn't comparable against the ageing sp7210. The sp7210 had better color accuracy and all out better PJ quality.
Acer showed some lag and rainbow effect. So if you need a very inexpensive DLP under $500 and cant find a sp7210 i would say you may want to look at the Acer..
post #400 of 1760
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Originally Posted by genexxa View Post
Ok my setup is almost completed... the projector is running just fine, HTPC is up and running!

Now it's time for 3D but I don't really know where to start...

First I don't know if I should go with the Nvidia 3D Vision or go simply with DLP-Link glasses like the Optoma or the viewsonic. what are the pros and cons between these 2 options??

Nvidia 3d vision looks pretty easy to setup... but what about picture quality?

Thanks
The Nvidia kit is proprietary like most 3D TVs the glasses only work with that system, DLP link you have a choice of about 5 different kinds and much cheaper.

http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dglasses.html

If you have an AMD card all you need is the DLP glasses of your choice with this projector.
post #401 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post
The Nvidia kit is proprietary like most 3D TVs the glasses only work with that system, DLP link you have a choice of about 5 different kinds and much cheaper.

http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dglasses.html

If you have an AMD card all you need is the DLP glasses of your choice with this projector.
Wow. How can they say that the Nvidia glasses are not rechargable. Sounds biased to me... That was one of the reasons I went with it...
post #402 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post

The Nvidia kit is proprietary like most 3D TVs the glasses only work with that system, DLP link you have a choice of about 5 different kinds and much cheaper.

http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dglasses.html

If you have an AMD card all you need is the DLP glasses of your choice with this projector.

Unfortunatly I'm running a Geforce GT 240... do you think it could work with the DLP-Link glasses and the projector?
post #403 of 1760
Pretty darn sure tthe 240 would need 3D Visiion to work, if you want 3D Bluray capability.
post #404 of 1760
Do I have this straight.

To watch 3D Blu-Ray's you need:

With an ATI video card(Newer Models) You need :
ATI drivers(ALONE)
A 3D Player (DVD10,TMT5 ect..you pick one)
Any DLP link Glasses you like ?

With Nvidea video cards you need :
Nvidia video card drivers
3D vision kit, drivers and emitter
A 3D Player (DVD10,TMT5 ect..you pick one)
Nvidia 3D vision Glasses or any DLP Link glasses you like (DLP Link Glasses wont be using the Nvidia emitter)

For 3D gaming with ATI Cards add IZ3D or DDD Driver.

For 3D gaming with Nvidia Cards add nothing more.
QUESTION: Nvidia 3D vision Glasses will work with the Nvidia card and driver setup but for gaming will the DLP Link glasses work with an Nvidia Card and driver setup ?

Is the above correct/Wrong ? Is there anything else.
post #405 of 1760
For ATI system, your ONLY choice is DLP Link glasses. 3D blu-ray or SbS video playback by your choice of software player. 3D game by iZ3D driver.

For Nvidia system, you can select 3D Vision (IR emitter), OR DLP Link glasses. Software player works with both 3D Vision and DLP Link. For 3D game, 3D Vision works by itself. For DLP Link, iZ3D driver is needed.

regards,

Li On
post #406 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Li On View Post

For ATI system, your ONLY choice is DLP Link glasses. 3D blu-ray or SbS video playback by your choice of software player. 3D game by iZ3D driver.

For Nvidia system, you can select 3D Vision (IR emitter), OR DLP Link glasses. Software player works with both 3D Vision and DLP Link. For 3D game, 3D Vision works by itself. For DLP Link, iZ3D driver is needed.

regards,

Li On

Thank You for the reply.

I think what I was trying to find out and did not even ask in that LOOONG Winded post of mine was this.

If you go with an Nvidia video card. You MUST USE THE Nvidia 3D vision kit ?
By this I mean.
You could not get by with only the following:
1: Nvidia video card and driver
2: DLP Link Glasses
3: 3D Player of your choice (DVD10,TMT5 ect...)
The above would not work alone correct ?
Because YOU MUSt HAVE #4
4: Nvidia 3D Vision Kit
Is it true, that the 3D vision diver could not be used alone without the emitter if you only wanted to use DLP Link glasses and not the Nvidia IR 3D glasses because the emitter must be hooked up for the 3D vision driver to run ? True ?
post #407 of 1760
Hello,

I have this projector, DLP Link glasses, the IZ3D driver (latests) and Catalyst 10.12 installed. Do I need to do the registry hacks or anything else to get gaming to work in 3D? Call of Duty MW2 crashes whenever I try to start the game with the IZ3D driver enabled, I know I have to disable the steam community in game thing, what else do I need? Beta driver still? 3D blu ray works fine by the way.
post #408 of 1760
What DLPlink glasses do you have and do you like them?

Hello,

I have this projector, DLP Link glasses, the IZ3D driver (latests) and Catalyst 10.12 installed. Do I need to do the registry hacks or anything else to get gaming to work in 3D? Call of Duty MW2 crashes whenever I try to start the game with the IZ3D driver enabled, I know I have to disable the steam community in game thing, what else do I need? Beta driver still? 3D blu ray works fine by the way.
post #409 of 1760
I played MW2 last night with no issue.
No registry hack needed with 10.12.
The registry hack was for older version of IZ3D, current version is 1.12
I'm using Viewsonic PGD-150 glasses. They fit over my granny glasses but get tiresome after about 12 hours of gaming. Comes with 3 different size nose pieces, extra batteries.

Edit: had problem with Zonealarm firewall and steam but game runs fine.
post #410 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post

but get tiresome after about 12 hours of gaming.

I consider myself a gamer as well, but I'd guess anything would get tiresome after about 12 hours of gaming.

dbl
post #411 of 1760
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

I don't know of any avr's passing 120hz anything. It's not in the HDTV spec, so I don't hold it against them.

My Onkyo TX-SR608 is passing 120hz no problem...
post #412 of 1760
More details please????

You have a 120hz 720P sequential 3D projector and you send 120hz sequential 3D video to it through your AVR?

I am skeptical, but good to know if this is the case.

The AVR's that do 3D, generally do NOT do 120hz 720p 3D.
post #413 of 1760
I am looking at page 75 of the SR608 manual and it makes no mention of 120hz anything in the supported resolutions. Your passing 3D Bluray correct? That is not 120hz.
post #414 of 1760
For reference, mine's a pioneer vsx-520k - No 120hz anything (nor 96hz/72hz), no 1280x800, and lots of other PC resolutions do not work as well. For the most part it works with standard hdtv resolutions only.
post #415 of 1760
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

More details please????

You have a 120hz 720P sequential 3D projector and you send 120hz sequential 3D video to it through your AVR?

I am skeptical, but good to know if this is the case.

The AVR's that do 3D, generally do NOT do 120hz 720p 3D.

I would love to know of any that will definitely work. I have an Arcam AVR-300 and I'll be selling it and upgrading to a new receiver and had hoped to be able to run everything through the receiver to take advantage of the high res audio formats. I was going to use my PS3 but if there are no AVRs that pass the 120hz then I will have to look at maybe the Panasonic with dual HDMI outputs to avoid having to limit my audio to optical out.

I was looking at an Onkyo so maybe I can get someone from Onkyo to respond to an email.
post #416 of 1760
I have the orange ones off of ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DLP-LINK-3D-Glas...#ht_2469wt_905

They bring spare batteries and have lens cleaners, and a nice cloth case to hold them.
post #417 of 1760
Hello Bob,

When you play MW2, do you start with the iz3d driver on stereo enabled, hotkey enabled, or disabled? If you use hotkey, do you enable during gameplay or the menu? Also do you have to set the resolution in the game to 720p prior to enabling the iz3d driver? Thank you.
post #418 of 1760
Defiancecp: You said you have a 6870 card with a 1.4a hdmi and that works fine with the ACER? I'm about to get a 6850. Anything I should look out for--are they all capable of running the same drivers?
post #419 of 1760
I'm in the process of buying a new games PC so I just want to make sure i go the right route. I'm favouring the Ati cards because its a bit cheaper with a crossfire motherboard (future upgrades) and an AM3 CPU. but i do want 3d gaming.

I also have a PS3 for which I will be purchasing the optoma 3DXL box which uses DLP link glasses. I will be using the PS3 for bluray and bluray 3d playback

So basically its going to be

PS3, ATi PC ----> AV Reciever ----> 3DXL box -----> Acer projector.

Will that work for 3d games.
And i just use the dlp link glasses from the 3dxl pack.
post #420 of 1760
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Originally Posted by Ricanmeng View Post

Hello Bob,

When you play MW2, do you start with the iz3d driver on stereo enabled, hotkey enabled, or disabled? If you use hotkey, do you enable during gameplay or the menu? Also do you have to set the resolution in the game to 720p prior to enabling the iz3d driver? Thank you.

Hi, I prefer the hotkey. It helps to set all your games to 1280x720 before installing the driver but works either way. You can always (if you've already started the game) "ctl+alt+del" to start task manager, gain access to desktop and change Vcard res to 120Hz or whatever you need if you forget something.
I'm using a 5870 and 6970 (swapped back and forth for testing) with an hdmi 1.3 cable or vga cable. have not tried component cables yet but if it works with vga, should work fine.
7.1 analog never fails.
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