Lg hs201

Thanks for the pics - was looking forward to seeing how well this little pj performs.
do you think it would work well for gaming - or will there be too much lag?
Thanks

Does this projector use RGB Leds with switching, or does it use a colour wheel? i.e. Are there any visible rainbows.
davidcw8

SG,

How's the manual focus on yours? Does yours slightly move when you focus? Mine (HS201) and another owner(HS200G) on youtube does. You can find our videos on youtube to see it in action.

Also the HS200(european version) comes in different color and it comes w/ a bag :\\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQpwLih-Hiw

no i meant when you move or turn the focus knob on the side does the screen slightly move? i noticed when i turn it up or down to focus i see the screen or projection move slightly up or down too.

What is this ??? > "RGB Leds with switching"
Thanks

You can see a tiny bit of rainbows if you move your eyes rapidly. However there is no comparison to the Samsung P400 I recently owned, that LED projector had significant rainbows, I would say about the equivalent of a 2X wheel. The LG is almost unnoticeable, but you can tell that it is color cycling if you look at the lens...

What are your impressions of the LG HS201, Robert? Color (skin tones), resolution/screendoor, sharpness, brightness, etc? How does this compare to a decent 1080p/720p bulb projector?

With DLP single chip projectors the colour is achieved by using a frame sequential method. Unfortunately, using a colour wheel to select colours you are limited in the maximum frame rate you can achieve by the rotational speed of the colour wheel. With individual Red, Green and Blue Leds supplying the light, you can achieve a much higher frame rate by switching the Leds in sequence, and there are no moving parts to wear out.

The higher the display frame rate, the less visible rainbows .

davidcw8

davidcw8 Thanks

That sound really good.

Hi Sisyphus.

I'm enjoying the LG so far. I've had an Aaxatech P1 clone (pico projector), a Dell M109s LED pocket projector (which I still have), a Samsung P400 (which I enjoyed but died), and I've toyed with a few more. My interest in these LED projectors is to extend the life of my main theater projector, which is currently a Viewsonic Pro8100 (I also still own a Sharpvision XV-Z3000).
My interest in the LG is due to the HDMI input, I believe it's the first one on the market with one, and for me splitting the signal makes using it with the PC, PS3, Directv much more family friendly. The Samsung was unable to display even a 720p signal (downrezzed of course.)

Color: very saturated out of the box....TOO saturated out of the box. Skin tones are a bit off, I haven't calibrated it yet but looking at the menu options it looks very doable. It defaults to "vivid" mode and has several preset modes and some user modes including Cinema but skin tones look too warm on that so far.

Sharpness: Good sharpness, no edge to edge variation as on the Dell or Aaxatech, the Samsung was fairly sharp too. Pixels are readily visible.

Brightness: Very good, a little brighter maybe than the Samsung, but it's close. Much brighter than the Dell. I have gone as large as a 90" diagonal, but I like the punch with a 70-80" size (4:3 mode).

Resolution: Aahh....the Achilles heel of this projector. The lens quality is good enough that the 800x600 resolution is readily visible in all uses at larger screen sizes. I came very close to buying a used eBay sample of the Forever Plus 720p led projector with HDMI, but begged off at the last minute. It's somewhat dimmer and has an unusual vertical orientation.
Why LG didn't make this second generation unit at least XGA is a mystery to me. Perhaps that's how they were able to meet their lower pricepoint.

The LG has no offset and relatively short throw (90" diagonal at 104"), which makes ceiling placement challenging. I think I'm going to end up mounting in on my theater seat cupholder.

The LG would be a fine starter projector, bedroom projector, portable projector (maybe the best one so far due to it's fine brightness and great input choices) or, as I am using it, backup projector for casual use. I'm not sure it's a better choice than a low price 720p model resolution is not even close, but it IS a great relief not to have that bulb life worry every single time you fire it up!

Hope that helps...

Thanks for sharing your experience, Robert. I'm playing with the idea of getting two of these to experiment with 3D projection. I'm also considering placing two of these side by side for a Eyefinity 1200 x 800 or 1600 x 600 configuration.

Ok...you got me hooked! What is Eyefinity?

Also, for those who own a decent 720p or even a 1080p, how would you compare the contrast and sharpness capabilities of the hs200/1? I know it's pointless to compare the resolutions. Not yet..

Eyefinity is AMD/ATI's multidisplay solution. What makes it unique is it operates on a driver level. All applications (blu-ray player software, media center, tv, games, etc) should see the multimonitor setup as a single high resolution display. When in fact, you have 2, 3, even 6 projectors/displays configured in a edge-aligned orientation. This allows you to linearly increase resolution and brightness by adding displays.

3 LCD Monitors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADI2J...eature=related

Using 24 LCD monitors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vf8R_gOec

Using 3 projectors (which should give you a seamless image if setup properly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzH0aqTg7AQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBrYmN85pys

Well, that one fact will probably kill any possibilities of this unit for me. The location I was considering seemed ideal at first. It is light controlled, has reasonable access for running wiring, and has adequate room for a conveniently located 80+ inch screen. But it also has a coffered ceiling. I was hoping for at lease a moderate amount of offset to avoid the need to mount the projector on a long drop from the ceiling. I could have compromised a bit, but if this unit really has no offset I just cannot see it being ceiling mounted in most cases.

Tom

Can you tilt this PJ upwards and project on the ceiling?

A lot of PJ's dont allow for this, because the cooling then doesn't work properly and the heat rises to places where it can damage the PJ.

It should be in the manual, my Sony HW10 has such limitations of how to position the PJ clearly explained. Could you please have a look in your manual? Thanks.

Neko

You could ceiling mount it and use keystone adjustment to square the image... with the resulting image softening of course...

I am not opposed to the use of a modest amount of keystone adjustment and do use it on the projector in my main theater to allow better placement. But in the location I am considering for this unit the amount would be extreme. I doubt I would be happy with the image with that amount of keystone adjustment. Even if the unit allowed the amount of adjustment I would need, the focus between the top and bottom of the screen would be an issue.

For now I think I will wait for some new units to come along that better fit my needs. This unit seems to take a big step toward making LED a main stream projection option. And the fast start up, long lamp life, and low price it offers seems to be opening up some uses that formerly were only suited to a traditional display. No doubt there will be additional units soon that address a broader set of customer needs.

I wish LG had made this one XGA.

Time to pull the trigger over at Amazon. At least, I will get an English remote this time around. Thanks for the pics, SG.

What Native rez LG HS201 have ?

SVGA: 800x600 (or is it 848x600 like the Samsung?).

I was just about to buy one of these before I saw people here talking about the throw distance and positioning. Does it project a little bit upwards like the average business projector? I was thinking I could put it in 2 different places, the first being on a tripod basically between my legs when sitting down (not the best place for it). I would have a 60"ish screen like this. The 2nd place being right behind the couch on a tall tripod, even if I had to build a special mount to hold it upside down. That setup would give me a 100" ish screen. Could someone who owns one see what sort of angle it projects at?

Just received my HS201 from Amazon and I am p***ed. I've been trying all afternoon to install it... it seems impossible to get square image with this thing. In my room I only have a place for a projector if it is ceiling mounted, which is a huge problem with the LG.

Does anyone have an idea how to ceiling mount it? It only has one hole on the bottom that fits a tripod mount... that's all. I don't think I've seen any projector mounts designed for one hole.

I've tried a bunch of improvised solutions, but nothing seems to work, it always wants to tilt a little. Even a tripod mount doesn't fit all that close.

I hope I can find a way to make it work, because the picture is amazingly good. It is plenty bright, even in eco mode, the contrast is as good as any DLP projector with 2000:1 CR I've seen, and the low resolution doesn't bother me at all since I generally avoid sitting home counting pixels on my screen.

OK, ceiling mounting with this thing.

The mount I bought for this is this one from Amazon ($5.99):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._ya_oh_product
Ceiling mounting is difficult due to the throw, and I have to use a little keystoning (don't really care because it's only SVGA anyway).
Here are a few pics of the LG mounted (taken with my iphone so sorry for the poor quality).

Mounted:


Fat Man and Little Boy (Viewsonic Pro8100):

Thanks man! That looks perfect. Were you able to get the image square? I can't seem to manage that. I am still not sure I'll keep this one.

I haven't had any horizontal alignment issues, just used keystoning for the vertical alignment.

don't want to sound pushy, but... no-one who has a clue?