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post #121 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:18am
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...omparison.aspx

If you wish to compare the two models
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post #122 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:28am
It's here!!!http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/
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post #123 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:29am
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http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...omparison.aspx

If you wish to compare the two models

Very nice OPPO.

I love to see how things keep "movin on up" like the Jeffersons.
Now OPPO is dipping into the high end market with this SE model.
Where at one time they were know for "waiting till technology is mature", with this new SE model, they are now more on the cutting edge.
Reputation is maturing, website is maturing, build quality is better, and performance is at an all time high... all the while still providing the best bang for you buck in many different categories.
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post #124 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:29am
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It's here!!!http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/

Yep, but your a few posts late.
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post #125 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:37am
Looks like NuForce got a spankin' by Oppo. Discounts on the SE no longer are available...only on the NuForce version.

http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/o...83se/index.php (see bottom)
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post #126 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:39am
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Yep, but your a few posts late.

Oh well...

Now we need some reviews on the "SE"!
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post #127 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:41am
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Looks like NuForce got a spankin' by Oppo. Discounts on the SE no longer are available...only on the NuForce version.

http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/o...83se/index.php (see bottom)

Wow! I guess a few people got really lucky.
Not only that, but it looks like NuForce is not even selling the SE model as a stand alone unit at all.
They have info for the upgrade prices on the SE and NFE models, and they have the price on the stnad alone NFE model, but no stand alone price on the SE model.
On the same plane, their upgrade price for the SE verion is $100 more than OPPO's price.
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post #128 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:47am
Now will Analog SE audio sound better than digital Bitstreaming?
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post #129 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:47am
Audio board:
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post #130 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:50am
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Now will Analog SE audio sound better than digital Bitstreaming?

YMMV to the MAX!
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post #131 of 5786
11/9/09 at 9:58am
WOW

Now could be interesting to see what Dan can do with a SE in his hands ...
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post #132 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

The firmware for all BDP-83 models is the same, so this would indicate that there are no added base management features against what the BDP-83 already offers.

Most likely the same FW will have updates for both units, then the player will pick and choose which portions of the update it applies.

So yes 1 download, but different updates could be taking place.
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post #133 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by RadioWonder View Post

Oh well...

Now we need some reviews on the "SE"!

Yes! Reviews!
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post #134 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Most likely the same FW will have updates for both units, then the player will pick and choose which portions of the update it applies.

So yes 1 download, but different updates could be taking place.

The point of it all was, I don't think that OPPO is going to implement special features (like "bass management") into the SE model, away from the standard BDP-83 unit.
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post #135 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:04am
It's going to be pretty hard to find DAC of this quality in an AVR. But that doesn't mean that it will sound better on YOUR system. The stereo output specs are impressive to say the least. For 2-ch listening I'd expect this to sound better on a wide range of systems. But for m-ch systems and listening all bets are off since most AVRs do not offer DSP on m-ch inputs. Absence of DSP and all it includes, like bass management and EQ, will be a significant loss for most systems.

Bottom line: this is a giant killer for 2-ch listening, and will equal or best players costing many times more. For m-ch, YMMV.
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post #136 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:13am
$299 to upgrade 2- and multi-channel audio? And I don't have an HDMI-capable receiver? Hell yes!
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post #137 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:24am
For info on the ESS DAC chips:

http://www.esstech.com/index.php?p=products_DAC

--Bob
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post #138 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:26am
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$299 to upgrade 2- and multi-channel audio? And I don't have an HDMI-capable receiver? Hell yes!

Don't forget, for that price you ALSO get RS-232 added AND the SE souvenir decal!
--Bob
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post #139 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:30am
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For info on the ESS DAC chips:

http://www.esstech.com/index.php?p=products_DAC

--Bob

AHH, so it is a half-step below...well, maybe a quarter. Though that seems in-line with most oem customized solutions. Will there be a noticeable difference...dunno.

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The ES9016 Sabre32 Ultra DAC is the latest addition to the world’s highest performance and critically acclaimed Sabre32 DAC family. With ESS patented 32-bit HyperstreamTM DAC architecture and Time Domain Jitter Eliminator, the ES9016 SABRE32 Ultra DAC delivers spectacular music with an unsurpassed sound stage, with up to 128dB dynamic range and 0.0003% (-110dB) total harmonic distortion, and free from clock jitter common in digital audio systems.

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The SABRE32 Reference audio DAC series is the world’s highest performance 32-bit audio DAC solution targeted for consumer applications such as Blu-ray player, audio pre-amplifier, A/V receiver and professional applications such as recording systems, mixer consoles and digital audio workstations. With ESS patented 32-bit Hyperstream™ DAC architecture and Time Domain Jitter Eliminator, the SABRE32 Reference Stereo DAC delivers an unprecedented DNR of up to 135dB and THD+N of -120dB, the industry’s highest performance level that will satisfy the most demanding audio enthusiasts.
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post #140 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:33am
For laughs and a frame of reference: What AVRs have these ESS DACs or comparable on them and what kind of costs more or less?
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post #141 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:33am
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For info on the ESS DAC chips:

http://www.esstech.com/index.php?p=products_DAC

--Bob

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Don't forget, for that price you ALSO get RS-232 added AND the SE souvenir decal!
--Bob

and maintain your warranties and extended warranties (verified with Oppo)
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post #142 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:41am
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$299 to upgrade 2-...

Unluckly.. cannot do it, Due I'm Overseas ...
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post #143 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:57am
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For laughs and a frame of reference: What AVRs have these ESS DACs or comparable on them and what kind of costs more or less?

So far it appears that only one McIntosh SACD player has used DAC from the same line:

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The MCD 500 SACD player bears special mention, since it is a product that has McIntosh insiders salivating in a big way—and for good reason. The MCD 500 SACD player features both fixed- and variable-level balanced outputs and uses “four 24-bit/192kHz PCM/DSD digital to analog converters per channel arranged in a differential balanced configuration.
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post #144 of 5786
11/9/09 at 10:57am
http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetai...rod=BDP83SEUPG

Looks like even though OPPO states that the customer is responsible for sending in their player when upgrading their -83 to an -83SE, they actually are giving you a credit of $18 to cover shipping costs when you order the upgrade.
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post #145 of 5786
11/9/09 at 11:04am
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WOW

Now could be interesting to see what Dan can do with a SE in his hands ...



exactly.. The price isn't bad for us 83 owner..

djoel
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post #146 of 5786
11/9/09 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by jnaks View Post

Looks like NuForce got a spankin' by Oppo. Discounts on the SE no longer are available...only on the NuForce version.

http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/o...83se/index.php (see bottom)

You have to wonder how the BDP-83 SE is going to effect the whole third party mod market against the BDP-83, now that the BDP-83 SE is available at a "reasonable price".
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post #147 of 5786
11/9/09 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Don't forget, for that price you ALSO get RS-232 added AND the SE souvenir decal!
--Bob


I wonder if they'll throw in a DVD-A logo on mine


Djoel
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post #148 of 5786
11/9/09 at 11:20am
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I wonder if they'll throw in a DVD-A logo on mine


Djoel

Most likely not... and with the "upgrade" option you don't get the SE decal either. The front of the player will be unchanged.
To get front changed, you'll have to buy a whole new SE unit, then keep or sell your old BDP-83 on your own.
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post #149 of 5786
11/9/09 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

It's going to be pretty hard to find DAC of this quality in an AVR. But that doesn't mean that it will sound better on YOUR system. The stereo output specs are impressive to say the least. For 2-ch listening I'd expect this to sound better on a wide range of systems. But for m-ch systems and listening all bets are off since most AVRs do not offer DSP on m-ch inputs. Absence of DSP and all it includes, like bass management and EQ, will be a significant loss for most systems.

Bottom line: this is a giant killer for 2-ch listening, and will equal or best players costing many times more. For m-ch, YMMV.

Food for thought.
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post #150 of 5786
11/9/09 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Most likely not... and with the "upgrade" option you don't get the SE decal either. The front of the player will be unchanged.
To get front changed, you'll have to buy a whole new SE unit, then keep or sell your old BDP-83 on your own.


well that sucks, 299 doesn't get you nothing these days aye

Djoel
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