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I am having my basement finished, with a dedicated home theater room. The HT company I am using is doing all of the install and calibration, and I am buying the B&W 683s with 4 CS3 surrounds. I think I can get a lot better for the money than a B&W sub.
The room is 18' x 10' x 10', sheetrock with carpet over cement floor. This will be for HT, not music. I love the deep rumble in scifi and action movies, so I want a sub I can "feel".

I am having custom cabinetry made for the front, and due to some constraints, the space for the sub will be 15.5"w x 30"h x 24" deep if I place it in the front. In the second pic is some MDF cabinetry in the back just behind where the seats would be. I am asking my builder if it is too late to run wire back there since I never really thought about placing a sub there until reading these forums for research. If I put a sub back there, there are less size constraints. The 3 walls of the rear cabinet space are concrete behind the sheetrock and studs.

I would like to spend <$800, but am flexible. I would consider a 2 sub solution even if it cost a little more if it gave me the real movie experience.

Front of room. The door adjacent is the reason for size constraints:


Rear of room with MDF cabinet. Concrete on the 3 sides other than the face since this is where the fireplace is on the main level:


The speaker I was looking at was the Hsu VTF-2 MK 3. The Epik Sentinel looks good also, but the website says everything is backordered for a couple of months. These would both fit in the front space.

Thanks in advance for the help!
post #2 of 9
If you want deep, I would go for the VTF3, or the Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX, or the Elemental Designs A5-350 before the VTF2 or the Epik Sentinel. Not that those are bad, or won't go deep, but I don't think they quite have the extension of the three I mentioned, all of which are in your budget. I don't know that the VTF2 would be powerful enough for a room of that size, although the VTF3 certainly is. I would guess the A5-350 would have the most output. There is also the AV123 MFW-15 to consider.
post #3 of 9
If you don't mind putting forth some effort ED offers the A7s - 650 both as a finished product and kit version. The kit version is just just over your budget and is very close to your size requrments. Should definitely give you the most of what your looking for at your budget. If you want to go with a finished sub the ones listed above are very good choices.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=849

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=891
post #4 of 9
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Thanks for the replies. Since the VTF3 will not fit in the front cabinetry, I presume it is OK to put in the back? Do I need to cut a hole in the MDF and cover with fabric, or at this frequency does it not matter? Is it OK that I have concrete on 3 sides of that space?
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Thanks for the replies. Since the VTF3 will not fit in the front cabinetry, I presume it is OK to put in the back? Do I need to cut a hole in the MDF and cover with fabric, or at this frequency does it not matter? Is it OK that I have concrete on 3 sides of that space?

I think it would do well in back. The best place to ask about placement is Hsu's setup and placement recommendations forum, where you can get advice from the real experts.

Cut a hole in the MDF? Do you mean cutting into the subwoofer itself or your cabinet? I wouldn't want to cut a hole into the sub, if that is what you mean.

I don't think it would be bad to place it in a spot with concrete on three sides, as long as there is some space between the wall and the ports and woofer. I think five or six inches would be enough, but again, the best place to ask that is in Hsu's placement recommendations forum.
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post


Cut a hole in the MDF? Do you mean cutting into the subwoofer itself or your cabinet? I wouldn't want to cut a hole into the sub, if that is what you mean.

LOL! No, I meant cut a hole in the MDF cabinetry!
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
Update:
My builder got a cable to the back area from the front. Now I am not limited as to height (30") or width (36"), but I still have only 23" for depth.

Does this change any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for the advice!
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Bump?

Trying to decide between Hsu vtf 3.3 vs mfw-15 for this room.
Thanks!
post #9 of 9
The VTF is longer than 23", and it also needs space in back for the ports unlike the MFW. It seems like the MFW would suite your circumstances better. Something else to look at is the Epik Sentinel. I think they would all be good, you can't go wrong with any of them.
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