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post #931 of 2110
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Originally Posted by oshunluvr View Post

So I suspect that the TViX .ico creation function can't handle either transparency or .png files.

On the TViX website, it mentions that Interlaced PNG is not supported, I wonder if that was the problem?
post #932 of 2110
Hi all as I am considering changing tuner and by the same time add the dvr component this device seems quite interesting

1)can anyone comment on the performance of the double tuner vs channel master-winegard-etc..
2)for BR-ISO settings I am currently using an HTPC to a TH58PH10uka pana plasma monitor via a dvi connection @ 1080p60 which is then brought down to 1366*768p by the internal scaler (I can also use hdmi but will most likely be blocked at 720p by the handshake, or alternatively I can use the rca-rgb path) ... what would be the optimal settings for both OTA and BR-ISO
3)can you use at the same time the HDMI connection and audio coax to feed a DAC

Thks for helping
post #933 of 2110
I have not used the others, but the DViCO tuners work well for me. There seems like a slight lag during a channel change compared to my LG TV, but not to a significant degree. Reception and clarity are the same. If you enable Automatic time-shifting the lag increases, but I would expect that due to the recording going on. I wonder if there's any impact based on hard drive performance?

I use HDMI to a monitor (Panasonic TH-50PHD7UY) and Optical audio to a Bose receiver. I've not tried the coax feed but I would bet it works the same.

I can't comment on #2.
post #934 of 2110
Oshunluvr, thks for the valuable information.

With the pana monitor you have I am guessing you are using the HDMI resolution at 720p60Hz since your native resolution is 1366*768, did you try different settings and have you tried playing some BR with the 24Hz setting ? how is the jitter with quick pan mvmt
post #935 of 2110
If I recall, I tried both the 720p and 1080i settings with the same results - as one would expect.

I didn't try any other settings. Playback has been jitter-free so far.
post #936 of 2110
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Do you have the TViX' S/PDIF audio enabled in setup?

Is your receiver capable of decoding the audio from those movies? If not, try setting the TViX audio to "analog".

I took your suggestion and played with the S/PDIF settings and it worked. Ultimately, I did not change any settings other than selecting (enabling) it as an output source.
post #937 of 2110
nidnolb, thanks for the update.
post #938 of 2110
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by james57 View Post

Oshunluvr, thks for the valuable information.

With the pana monitor you have I am guessing you are using the HDMI resolution at 720p60Hz since your native resolution is 1366*768, did you try different settings and have you tried playing some BR with the 24Hz setting ? how is the jitter with quick pan mvmt

24Hz setting works as it should, and it handles 23.978Hz without the stutter. As for jitter/panning, it all depends on the footage.

One thing to bear in mind is that you can't invoke BR 24Hz unless you are running at full 1080p. To use it on a non-1080p display, your display and EDID has to be capable of accepting and downconverting 1080p/24Hz.
post #939 of 2110
Thks KC, what about the tuner section would you know which generation it is and how well does it perform compared with other tuners ie winegard, cm..
post #940 of 2110
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by james57 View Post

Thks KC, what about the tuner section would you know which generation it is and how well does it perform compared with other tuners ie winegard, cm..

No, unfortunately, I don't keep up with that these days. But DVICO/Minevox has been delivering tuner products for almost a decade and have a good working knowledge and relationship with all the Korean chip manufacturers.

I'm too close to my towers to have reception issues, maybe someone else with more challenging environment can chime in.
post #941 of 2110
James, I'm not familiar with the tuner brands that you mention but otherwise I've seen less variation between brands in tuner performance lately than in the early days of DTV. There's been a "rising tide." In many places it's still true that satisfactory DTV OTA performance requires a directional outdoor antenna to reduce multipath interference effects, regardless of tuner brand or model. The M6620N tuners seem comparable to those in the HDHomerun and my 2007-vintage Samsung HDTV and easily handle my relatively difficult OTA reception in the Bay Area's m.p. soup bowl of mountains.
post #942 of 2110
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

James, I'm not familiar with the tuner brands that you mention but otherwise I've seen less variation between brands in tuner performance lately than in the early days of DTV. There's been a "rising tide." In many places it's still true that satisfactory DTV OTA performance requires a directional outdoor antenna to reduce multipath interference effects, regardless of tuner brand or model. The M6620N tuners seem comparable to those in the HDHomerun and my 2007-vintage Samsung HDTV and easily handle my relatively difficult OTA reception in the Bay Area's m.p. soup bowl of mountains.

Thks, the reason I am so specific about tuner performace is that I live in Montreal Canada where we just went through the AD transition and have my 4228 + preamp directed to Mt Manfield Vt.. and beleive or not can"t get station from Mtl bcs those clown decided not to cover the blind spot from our biggest mountain downtown. Anyway I have two tuners (external igital stream and PC :Asus) that are 2 yrs old and the performace difference is huge. The digitalstream is way more sensitive (it gets 6 more channels but can"t lock on a local one) the Asus gets well 6 less but seems to do a better job on a local station (full strenght) the one I cant lok one on the other one. Since the M6620N does not appear to be distributed in Cnd I want to be shure about this aspect before really considering it.
post #943 of 2110
I used to watch HDVR2(dtv) with a slingbox av on my laptop wireless from the lan. Is there anyway I can watch the HDTV on the 6620np the same way. From the lan, or wlan. I have a full lan in my house, wired in every room.
Thanks for any help,
lanceks1
post #944 of 2110
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Originally Posted by lanceks1 View Post

I used to watch HDVR2(dtv) with a slingbox av on my laptop wireless from the lan. Is there anyway I can watch the HDTV on the 6620np the same way. From the lan, or wlan. I have a full lan in my house, wired in every room.
Thanks for any help,
lanceks1

My TViX shows up on a samba network as workgroup TVIX device VENUS and is browse-able. The files are .tp (mpeg2) which VLC plays among others.

Samba isn't the best protocol, but it seems DViCO enabled streaming properly.
post #945 of 2110
It's also FTP-able.
post #946 of 2110
I need someones help setting up network disks 1. I have installed netshare 2.1.3.0 on two computers and have shared My Picture, My Videos, and My Music folders. When I go to Network setup in my M6620N Duo, select server type NFS I see these share list:
/tvixhd1
/tvixhd2
/tvixhd3
/tvixhd4
Shared Dir: /tvixhd1
Server ID: 192.168.0.101 (This is the correct IP for my computer with the shared directories.

These are not the names of my shared directories that I set up in netshare. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Russ
post #947 of 2110
Thread Starter 
If you're using Netshare via PC, you need to name the shares tvixhd1, tvixhd2, etc. on that PC. You can use the regular share name for other devices, i.e. NAS.
post #948 of 2110
It's less confusing if you use the predefined names, as Kei suggests, but you don't actually need to rename the shares on the PC. But (for reasons known only to DViCo) the shares that you specify in NetShare--no matter what are their "real" names on the PC--are reflected to the TViX as you have seen: tvixhd1, tvixhd2, etc., respectively. You have to set up the TViX to use them by those names.

But why are you using NFS instead of the simpler native Windows (SMB) sharing? That works just as well for everything except extremely high bitrate videos (e.g., certain BluRay files). Then you'll see the share names on the TViX that you defined on the PC.
post #949 of 2110
Thread Starter 
Thanks Terry for that clarification....I never bothered to change the share names.
post #950 of 2110
I have limited technical understanding and need some additional explanation please...
How do I map /tvixhd1 to a specfic directory on my pc.
I have attached a couple of links..
The first one is a picture of network disk setup of the 6620...

The second picture is a snapshot of the net share setup.


Are you saying that in the net share setup that I have to rename "My Movies" to /tvixhd1?

Thanks in advance for you help...
Russ

Not sure why the images did not work... Maybe the links will...

http://m6620nduopvr.shutterfly.com/pictures/10
http://m6620nduopvr.shutterfly.com/pictures/9
post #951 of 2110
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

It's less confusing if you use the predefined names, as Kei suggests, but you don't actually need to rename the shares on the PC. But (for reasons known only to DViCo) the shares that you specify in NetShare--no matter what are their "real" names on the PC--are reflected to the TViX as you have seen: tvixhd1, tvixhd2, etc., respectively. You have to set up the TViX to use them by those names.

But why are you using NFS instead of the simpler native Windows (SMB) sharing? That works just as well for everything except extremely high bitrate videos (e.g., certain BluRay files). Then you'll see the share names on the TViX that you defined on the PC.

I was setting up the 6620N as recommended by the poorly writen manual.. Could you explain a little further your method?
when you say SMB do you mean SAMBA?

Thanks... Russ
post #952 of 2110
Has anyone had any luck using UPnP and the SBMC server app? Since I can see my PC using this option on the TV via the 6620N, I must be doing something wrong with the SBMC setup. There are two library folders, one music and one video but there are no files showing up in the folders on the TV. When running SBMC on my computer the folders are mapped and and I can see all my video and music folders and files that I would like to play on my TV via the 6620N... Any ideas where I can go to get help with the SBMC setup?

Thanks,
Russ
post #953 of 2110
Russ, I have no experience with UPnP and SBMC. And I can't see your pictures because the host site says that I need to sign up to do so. (You can attach pictures to posts directly on AVS Forum via the advanced post editor)

What I meant by SMB (aka Samba) is the native folder sharing in Windows; i.e., without using any "app". If you define shares on your PC using Windows Explorer and grant guest access you'll be able to see them by the same names in the TViX setup for the Net disks. (You can also use an ID and password, but I recommend getting it going first without that step)

With NetShare (i.e., NFS shares) you use the DViCo app to associate your PC's folders with NetShare's names "tvixhd1", etc. The order that they're shown in NetShare's setup window determines which one is "1", "2", etc., on the TViX.
post #954 of 2110
Thanks for your help... I do want to keep this simple..

I tried the advanced attachments... Attachment 222422

Attachment 222423

Hope that works...

Again...Thanks.

Of course, now I realize the pictures are OBE. I have since moved to using SMB and can see my folders I identified to share. I am still a bit confused about network disk 1, 2, 3, & 4... and the fact that each network disk has on the share list /tvixhd1, /tvixhd2, /tvixhd3, /tvixhd4.

So, with each network disk I can assign four separate folders locations which gives me a total of 16 folders I could share to my 6620N? I actually have two separate computers I want to be able to access via the 6620N.

Thanks,
Russ
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post #955 of 2110
Each Net disk can be assigned to any of the available folders, giving a total of 4, but you can reassign them whenever you want.

I notice that your PC is linked via WiFi, which you may find is not speedy or reliable enough to stream HD videos, but should work fine for audio, pictures, and DVD-quality video.

I'm puzzled myself by your second picture, which seems to show more than 4 NFS folders from a single IP address while NetShare can only define 4 folders AFAIK and can only have one instance of itself running on each PC.
post #956 of 2110
Just got mine.
Seems to work ok so far.
Many questions to come.
First, how do you get rid of that damn red dot in the upper RH of the display when watching recording in process shows?
Second, why can't I rewind a show when watching a recording in process?
It doesn't seem like you are able to watch an in process recording from the beginning.

A couple comments: FF is slow X32 that's it.
The remote is the cheesiest (is that even a word) I've ever had. Such a nice unit accompanied by this remote, really!
For the most part, nice unit. I'm use to a Dish DVR so the limitations of this unit will take some getting use to.

Can the video art be applied to the videos on my USB attached external HD?

This Forum is very helpful.
Thanks

Steve
post #957 of 2110
Another few questions from a newbie: First, when I have a recording scheduled on one channel and am watching another channel the tuner changes to the recording channel. However, the device has two tuners and I always select the recording using the EPG and select Record (vs. Watch).

Second, speaking of recording using the EPG is there any effort toward creating a "repeat" function so it repeats that recording timing (weekly) like other PVRs?

Third, when I am watching with the TV's internal tuner recordings go as planned. However, if I am watching a channel using the TVIX the concurrent recordings' first few minutes get clipped. In Settings I selected to begin 1 minute early and end 1 minute late (i.e., 62 minute recording) so I realize that back-to-back recordings will be affected. I don't want to turn off what I am watching for three or more minutes.

I would appreciate your guidance.
post #958 of 2110
1. Channel change upon start of recording: Bummer, but DViCo/Minevox says they can't easily fix it.

2. Go to the Recording Schedule screen and edit the entry from "once" to "weekly".

3. I haven't experimented much with how to minimize the disruption of a concurrent recording's startup, but my understanding is that you should be able to switch back to the "live" channel using the GUIDE or GOTO functions after confirming that the recording should proceed. (Unfortunately I cannot test this myself soon, so I'm sorry if this isn't actually possible--perhaps one of our other regulars can give some advice in that case)

P.S.: I have now re-examined the recording startup sequence and I found that one cannot switch back to the live channel immediately but must wait until the red "meatball" appears on the upper righthand corner of the screen. Then GUIDE or GOTO will work to navigate back. The delay, however, is 15 seconds rather than "3 minutes".
post #959 of 2110
Thanks again for the replies to all my questions. I will play the device using your suggestion (3) as a starting point. If I come up with something meaningful I'll share it.
post #960 of 2110
Ok so I am thinking/looking at alternatives to my Tivo. So I have a few questions in regards to this device.

1) It has two tuners so can I do the following like I can with my tivo. Record two shows and watch another one that is already recorded?

2) can I move shows off the device and convert them to another file format and store on my Network to play on other media devices on my network.
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